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First, welcome to the forum. I am confused after reading that wall of text because it's all over the place with randomly inserted punctuation. Don't worry though - I'm no grammar Nazi or even an expert at it. Just mentioning it so in the future you can slow down a bit and think it through more.

As Mahburg said though, why stay if you can't kill someone due to lag? I'm sure people blame lag for everything even when that's not the case but for me I lag far to often in this game. I just wonder if the game is running terrible for people when the lag compensation isn't going against me. And if it does, how badly is it? Because my connection is excellent so I don't feel bad for them but it's a thought that's always in the back of my mind.

Edit: Just played two games and had a horrible game in which I was host but stayed but we lost. The next game I was given host again and I quit out and "Migrating Host" popped up. Treyarch needs to stop making me host as I'm sick and tired of the disadvantage.

I have had a 150 plus win streak that only had maybe 3-7 dashboards in it because of bad host or lag

There's your damn problem. One dashboard regardless of "lag" renders your "stats" worthless. Ppl are so worried about "stats". Do your "stats" get you more women and or men? Do they pay your bills? Do you get an award for any of them? Think not. Even if they did, you wouldn't get crap cause your "stats" are B.S.

       Get where I'm going with this?

I've been struggling with lag comp. since xmas and it's progressively gotten worse the last few days. Very frustrating.. I've also noticed a few games where it seems to change mid game, everything will be fine and then mid game bullets have no results, might as well be shooting spit wads

for me lag/lag comp rolls in cycles, recently i've been fairly balanced but last night i noted a hotfix had been done and the 80% of my matches were a total waste of my time.  whatever i did i was killed and with a free supply of defencless players the other team just spammed kill streaks. was a total joke

To be honest - If I join a game I can usually tell pretty quickly how bad the connection will be as soon as I see someone walking face-first into a wall and rubber banding.

I don't mind getting owned. If there is someone with the skill to completely destroy you (and there are many) then what's the problem with them destroying you? They are few and far between. If I do get a game where a sniper is pinning the whole team down and quickscoping and I keep trying and failing to take him out, I'll congratulate their skill in the lobby after. It's the point of a social game. It opens up conversations and often it means I'l party up with a really good player and have a much better time playing Objectives. If you can't beat them join them .

I will never rage quit when loosing fairly as I'd rather get the XP. Being destroyed by people better than you is how you learn to become better.

The only time I will quit is during the following circumstances:

- I join a game and when I shoot the first enemy I see I get 8 hitboxes in a row. He then turns round thinking "oh look, somebody is shooting me" and 2-shots me with an SMG. As soon as that happens, rather than raging I will just quit back to the search and find a different lobby. It's not worth the frustration.

- I get put into a game (for example Domination), the enemy team has 100 points and the team I'm on has 5 points. In the air the enemy has a Stealth Chopper and a Swarm and there is a K9 unit too. That isn't worth it either so I back out.

I love fair fights - whether I win or not. We are all competitive though. I am competitive enough that I can't just sit in a game where everything is against me and just die over and over. It isn't worth it. It isn't fun. When a game becomes a chore it isn't worth it any more.

I've had laggy games.  I've had games where the screen starts to 'break' and 'tear' and flashes and all sorts of weird stuff.  I've had games where the lag definitely impacted my experience.  BUT...

I've never left a game.  Even when going 7 and 45, getting sniped three steps after spawning over and over again, but I never left.

It has nothing to do with stats.  This is definitely not me saying, 'I have bad games, and I don't quit, so I'm better than you folks who do quit.  Not saying that at all.

When it starts circling around the drain and my face is red and trying my best to not scream at my television, I stop.  I slow things down.  This way when I'm getting spawn sniped because I'm running the same damn path, every time I spawn, five times in a row, thinking 'this time I'll get that damn sniper'...  Stop doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

Wait before pulling the trigger.  Get a little closer in to make sure you're going to hit your mark.  Think about where the sniper's at, where you're at, and how to make sure you don't fall for the same bait again.

Every game _should_ be a learning experience.  Even if the lesson is how to get your butt handed to you and not rage about it.  That's why I don't quit.  And slowly but surely, I'm becoming a better player because of it.  (12 and 30 isn't that bad, right?  ;^) )

hatecase wrote:

     My Question for the community is ..... personally when i play cod (and i mean every one including blops2) i only feel like i have bad games or my team has bad games when we suddenly " cant kill people' because of lag or bad host .i win like 70 -90 % of games me or my team plays in on any given day . I have had a 150 plus win streak that only had maybe 3-7 dashboards in it because of bad host or lag . What do i mean by bad host or lag ? This is where you insert people saying wtf i shoot the guy 7 times and dont get the kill or theres no way that i aim down sights get hit markers on a guy and still lose a gun fight , or the guy doesnt even have the right perks on to run thru claymores or bettys. these are the only games i lose or  dashboard .  when i dont experience the bad host scenario  cod feels good and crisp and my guns do what they are supposed to . i feel like the lag in this cod is out rageous and im wondering when people are getting smashed and back out is this what they are experiencing the whole cant get kills in gun fights you feel you normally win scenario ? the bad host ? i ask because in this cod i'd say 80-90% of games when me and my team are smashing people the opposing players are all backing out .and its no fun when my swarm cant get none . And the only games i dont do well in are when i have the "bad host " - "lag" im not trying to make excuses just wondering

Your paragraph should have been:

My Question for the community is .....Why do YOU back out?

hatecase wrote:

 

     My Question for the community is ..... personally when i play cod (and i mean every one including blops2) i only feel like i have bad games or my team has bad games when we suddenly " cant kill people' because of lag or bad host . win like 70 -90 % of games me or my team plays in on any given day .

Claims of lag issues aside, most experienced solo players like myself know half of your team are naturally prone to leaving when up against parties. Everyone can agree that even a party of average skilled players, provided they are organised, are an extremely effective force against pub randoms. I enjoy playing against teams since they usually camp less and have more predictable herding/group movement but often random teammates cannot handle parties very well, get smashed and leave mid-game. Many times I have been on the winnning side Vs a party (tough games but the most rewarding) yet the end of match scoreboard shows my team of randoms has reshuffled with over 50% new players that hotjoined mid-way,. It's been this way in all CODs including the "lag-free" MW1 and MW2.

The flip side of this is when you get experienced party regulars that, due to the obvious  advantages they enjoy, have become overly accustomed to winning in pub matches. When they inevitably face a strong group of randoms (it just takes 2 or 3 strong randoms in any given pub team) they get pressed back and group quit, usually withing 5 minutes, screaming "lag" or messaging "cheats" on their way out.  Experienced parties are quicker to blame lag and quit games rather than admitting they are being outplayed by randoms. It's been this way in all CODs including the "lag-free" MW1 and MW2.

Of course genuine connection problems are an issue for everyone, but from my experience as a solo player the above scenarios are a common occurance as to why both random individuals and parties quit mid-game.

Lag is ruining this game. It's simply unplayable for me with things the way they are.

I have an incredibly quick internet speed, my ping is great etc. It is definitely not my interent that is the problem. I pay £50 (around $85) a month for an internet service that is quicker than 98% of the rest of the UK. I can play other FPS games without problems. CoD4 and MW2 I had no issues with lag whatsoever and I always pulled host. Black Ops was worse and MW3 had a few problems but Black Ops 2 is terrible. I pull host around 50% of the time and I'm suffering from this lag both when I'm host and when I'm not.

I've literally had it where I've turned a corner, started shooting someone in the back without missing a shot, and they turn around and kill me. On the kill cam it shows me shooting most of my bullets to the side of him. I've had it where I've been being shot at, ran around the corner and two seconds after turning the corner I'm dead. Kill cam showed I never made it round the corner. Two seconds is a huge amount of time to be lagging behind.

95% of my games are like this. The other 5% I run around in God mode and destroy everything that moves. Clearly in these games I'm on the good end of the lag. Since the game came out I've probably had at the most 5 games that have seemed fair, where I win the battles I should and lose the ones I shouldn't.

I'm a pretty good player, not the best but I can normally maintain a 1-2 KD. In MW2 my KD was ridiculously high. But with the lag this game is no fun to play at all. If it wasn't for the few games where I'm on the good end of the lag my KD would definitely be WAY under 1.

Why cant they base match making on the ping like they did in MW2? When you went to look for a match you could see the game looking for 50ms, then 75ms, ect ect until it go you into a game.

Or why couldnt they classify your connection before you even look for a match? Do what SpeedTest does and uploads and downloads a graphic intense dummy file to determine your connection rate.

That way people with awesome connections play against other people with awesome connections.

Oh I know, this would only work with dedicated servers and not host that may be 10 miles from you one time and 1000 miles away from you another time.