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erikthefan Calculating status... 7 posts since
Dec 30, 2012

Remove Drop-Shot or Bring back Quick-Scoping

Posted by erikthefan on Dec 30, 2012 1:50 AM

I never understood why quick-scoping was so hated. Believe it or not, quick-scoping does require skill; unlike drop-shooting. Sure maybe make quick-scoping a little harder than in MW2 but don't completely kill it. The only people who hate it are people who can't do it. So my suggestion is either have both quick-scoping and drop-shots or make both impossible. If you say drop-shots are just a teqniue to the the game, well then so is quick-scoping. Is quick-scoping realistic? Well of course not but neither is drop-shots; at least at the speed that is performed in the game. Also, Call of Duty is a game so who cares if its realistic. If you want realistic then join the service. To go along with people who are pesamestic of quick-scoping, those same people tend to complain about hard scoping as well.

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  • Flasher377 Calculating status... 3 posts since
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    Flasher377     Dec 30, 2012 7:13 AM (in response to erikthefan)

    They didn't take out quick scoping. It's not that hard to QS

    • erikthefan Newbie 7 posts since
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      erikthefan     Dec 30, 2012 8:05 AM (in response to Flasher377)

      I understand that it is somewhat possible to quick-scope in Black Ops 2 along with the other newer CODs, I'm just stating that its really too complicated. The drag time of bringing the scope up to the players eye is too long. Not to mention every other gun has auto aim asset except the sniper. I believe the sniper should get just a little help since its a single fire weapon usually going up against a sub machine gun or assault rifle.

      • DarkHero13 Novice 271 posts since
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        DarkHero13     Dec 30, 2012 11:54 AM (in response to erikthefan)

        Then keep your engagements long distance, you idiot. That's what snipers are for, not twirling around like a ballerina abusing aim assist. Switch to your secondary if you have to.

         

        QS is dead, get over it.

        • erikthefan Newbie 7 posts since
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          erikthefan     Dec 30, 2012 12:04 PM (in response to DarkHero13)

          I'm not saying for snipers to abuse auto assist just give them a little. Explain to me how it's far when a player has an over powered sub machine gun and can just spray while me being a sniper with one shot gets no help.

          • DarkHero13 Novice 271 posts since
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            DarkHero13     Dec 30, 2012 2:12 PM (in response to erikthefan)

            It's called having back up, or switching to your secondary and moving. That's the risk that comes with being a sniper. They haven't, nor will they ever need, the badly abused game flaw known as QS.

  • heyjude117 Novice 149 posts since
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    heyjude117     Dec 30, 2012 11:33 AM (in response to erikthefan)

    It's actually really easy to quickscope. Also, they put in a game mechanic where if you drop-shot, your accuracy with your gun goes down.

     

    So wish granted.

    • erikthefan Newbie 7 posts since
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      erikthefan     Dec 30, 2012 12:05 PM (in response to heyjude117)

      Yes, I believe you're somewhat right. It is better than pervious CODs but I just think it could be improved. It's just my opinion. I've been playing Call of Duty online since Call of Duty 3.

  • SitRepPro Expert 2,171 posts since
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    SitRepPro     Dec 30, 2012 3:30 PM (in response to erikthefan)

    I can do it but I hate it.  Sniper rifles need to have the slowest ADS of the lot (they don't, LMGs do) because of the huge benefit of 1HK at infinite range.  If people are insta dropping while shooting they may be using modded controllers because I use a stock controller and always go from standing to crouch, crouch to prone and it takes a short while to do.

    • Freddy_Hardcore Newbie 78 posts since
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      Freddy_Hardcore     Dec 31, 2012 7:35 PM (in response to SitRepPro)

      all you have to do is to change the button layout from default to tactical so that drop shooting is done by pressing and hold R3 rather than circle..  Some players still use Circle to drop shot....like I do but im not getting used to the Tactical button layout cause I don't panic knife as much..  Besides Its the same prone layout for battlefield 3 which makes game switching painless.

       

       

      U don't need modded controls to drop shot hahahahahahahahah

  • fletch360 Novice 125 posts since
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    fletch360     Dec 30, 2012 5:11 PM (in response to erikthefan)

    Have you played much BO2?

     

    Quick scoping works fine and they HAVE nurfed drop shotting.

    Now if you drop while firing (even while ads) the accuracy goes wildly off target.

  • Nibiru79 Calculating status... 7 posts since
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    Nibiru79     Dec 31, 2012 5:40 AM (in response to erikthefan)

    Quick scoping still works, your target just needs to be within the circle even way off center not near crosshairs.  Might take a tiny bit more skill but its still there.

  • Gerbera Apprentice 909 posts since
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    Gerbera     Dec 31, 2012 3:03 PM (in response to erikthefan)

    I've encountered drop-shotting A LOT more than Quick-scoping, honestly.

     

    And I'm pretty sure A LOT of them are using modded controllers, or have WAY too much lag compensation with the way they seem to instantly go prone without any sign of crouching first as it usually goes. I mean, I run around, there's a guy, BOOM, very next second, he's on his belly, shooting and kills me. Sure doesn't feel like there's any sort of accuracy lost doing it though.

  • Freddy_Hardcore Newbie 78 posts since
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    Freddy_Hardcore     Dec 31, 2012 4:01 PM (in response to erikthefan)

    QS requires aiming skills and mobility.  Its easy to QS but not easy to be positive in KD in a match where the only thing you was doing was Quick Scooping. QS requires Skill based on the Game style your using.  For example.  If your camping a cornor and shooting people in their backs by Quick Scooping than what skill is that verse Run N Gunning with a Bolt Action Sniper Quick Scooping while doing jump shot QS.  See thats skill.

     

    I don't QS much, just only on 1v1's.... As far as Drop shotting it does take skill because U have to also gain control of the analog stick.  Drop shooting in general is easy but to drop shoot someone who was firing at you 1st takes having fast awareness and reaction.  It sure defeats panic knifing and panic hip firing for sure.  Its a great way to Troll players who can't stand it. 

     

    What I do is Jump shot into a drop shot.  If someone is shooting me and missing their bullets, I tend to jump while turning in mid air towards the direction where i was getting shot from and Land into a drop shot.  Than is skill cause you don't know exactly where your getting shot from and when you land to a phone position your limited to stafe...

     

    Drop shooting and QS shouldn't be taken away because its a gaming style which is why people were Upset that QS was taken away in Black Ops 1.. but its brought back for a good reason and thoes people getting killed by that gaming style just has to deal with it or learn how to do it or learn a counter strategy.

    • SitRepPro Expert 2,171 posts since
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      SitRepPro     Dec 31, 2012 6:20 PM (in response to Freddy_Hardcore)

      Freddy_Hardcore wrote:


      but its brought back for a good reason and thoes people getting killed by that gaming style just has to deal with it or learn how to do it or learn a counter strategy.

       

      Shotguns with awesome range will do nicely.  Alweays nice to hear a butthurt QSer moaning about the range of a shotgun.

  • BACONndEGGS Novice 211 posts since
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    BACONndEGGS     Dec 31, 2012 4:10 PM (in response to erikthefan)

    you can still qs they just adjusted how aim assist works with snipers for years qs said aim assist had nothing to do it it was skill.well now it does take skill to.qs and you don't see many anymore I wonder why? Oh that's right they need the aim assist to help them out.

    • erikthefan Newbie 7 posts since
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      erikthefan     Dec 31, 2012 9:27 PM (in response to BACONndEGGS)

      MW2 still required skill. Did you see everyone quick scoping in MW2.  No, a lot of people couldn't do it then either. Maybe it does require more skill but how about Treyarch add weights to SMGs so they're not as fast when aiming and slow the runner down?

      • AcidHammer Calculating status... 4 posts since
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        AcidHammer     Jan 1, 2013 6:57 AM (in response to erikthefan)

        In my eyes quickscoping should not be in this game at all, the one thing I want from any call of duty is no snipers, balanced snipers or a no snipers game mode. Snipers are long range weapons keep them that way

      • SitRepPro Expert 2,171 posts since
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        SitRepPro     Jan 1, 2013 9:15 AM (in response to erikthefan)

        erikthefan wrote:

         

        MW2 still required skill. Did you see everyone quick scoping in MW2.  No, a lot of people couldn't do it then either. Maybe it does require more skill but how about Treyarch add weights to SMGs so they're not as fast when aiming and slow the runner down?

         

        There already is a movement penalty by weapon type I thought.  The only strange thing about the SMGs is that they have a faster ADS time than shotguns.  But then sniper rifles have a faster ADS time than LMGs too so it's not really surprising.

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