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Err0r_6_ Apprentice 834 posts since
Dec 4, 2012

FaL vs SMR~

Posted by Err0r_6_ on Dec 11, 2012 6:23 AM

I like both guns, but while using both weapons there are some noticable difference besides the recoil

 

 

im an avid FAL User, but miss the damage that the Mk14 in mw3 provided.. which is where the SMR came in.. however

 

in closer gun battles yes the SMR is a 2 shot kill but really shows no difference then the FAL at mid to long range.. for me this is a big deal since you would typically use an AR for mid to long range..

 

The Smr has a few draw backs that the increased damage rate IMO doesnt compensate for..

 

1. recoil

2. grip does nothing

3. small mag size

4. low fire rate

 

all 4 of which the FAL dominates the SMR

 

over all  the FAL is my go to weapon.. the SMR is okay, but overall a little disappointing

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  • slyaudio Apprentice 554 posts since
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    slyaudio     Dec 11, 2012 8:11 AM (in response to Err0r_6_)

    Agreed. While I kind of likes to MK14 truly nothing compares to the FAL from MW2, from the recoil and damage right through to the wicked reload animation and beastly sound track.

    This FAL is still good but not on the same level.

    I was excited when I unlocked the SMR thinking it would outclass the FAL in every way (being hunger rank unlock). I was sadly upset. The SMR is so much worse in comparison when used over range which is the whole point if an assault rifle.

    • slyaudio Apprentice 554 posts since
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      slyaudio     Dec 11, 2012 8:13 AM (in response to slyaudio)

      Mind the terrible phone auto corrects, cannot edit from my phone but hopefully most of the words make sense.

    • Err0r_6_ Apprentice 834 posts since
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      Err0r_6_     Dec 11, 2012 8:16 AM (in response to slyaudio)

      yeah I got started in COd at the tail end of mw2 so i dont know much about the mk14 in it.. i got pretty good at the semi auto in mw3

      • zvers Master 3,598 posts since
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        zvers     Dec 11, 2012 8:24 AM (in response to Err0r_6_)

        I actually LOVED the M16 in MW3 after the last buff it received. Nothing like a gold M16 laying waste to all! Lol Stoner would be proud!

  • zvers Master 3,598 posts since
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    zvers     Dec 11, 2012 8:22 AM (in response to Err0r_6_)

    I agree error. If the fire rate was increased on the SMR, it would make sense as a high unlock, high powered, single shot rifle. The only issue would be balance which I have to admit, I don't have enough experience with that "ballet". Or maybe only increase the fire rate when it has the select fire switch?? I don't know, that would have balancing issues too with such stopping power.

    • Err0r_6_ Apprentice 834 posts since
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      Err0r_6_     Dec 11, 2012 8:27 AM (in response to zvers)

      well with everything going against this weapon besided damage, id say for balance keep the recoil and small mag sixe, and increase the rate of fire like you said.. if its a higher teir gun, it needs to act as such

       

      i mean even from mid to long range it still sometimes takes as many shots to kill an enemy as the FAL, its just better then the FAL at closer ranges damage wise.

       

      or at the very least make the grip a little more useful to manage the recoil

      • zvers Master 3,598 posts since
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        zvers     Dec 11, 2012 8:34 AM (in response to Err0r_6_)

        The recoil might be the balancing tool for sure. I think many people refrain from using certain weapons because they just simply don't want to learn how to control the recoil. I think it's part of the challenge myself. After all, isn't that why we play video games, challenge ourselves???

        • Xx_PORKY_xX Novice 114 posts since
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          Xx_PORKY_xX     Dec 11, 2012 8:40 AM (in response to zvers)

          I dont actually think the properties of the guns stats are compareble to any kind of real life gun.

          Take the Python (Hand Gun) on Blops.. When you add the snub nose to it. Apparently it decreased the power & improved accuracy i do believe.

          Now we all know that is the complete opposite.

          I think with attatchments you have to try EVERY one. On MW2 was a LMG with grip it made the gun jump all over the place.

          Oh and to add i actually had a good couple hours game play earlier so no moaning about Lag Comp from me.

        • Err0r_6_ Apprentice 834 posts since
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          Err0r_6_     Dec 11, 2012 8:43 AM (in response to zvers)

          id say so, thats partly why I use the SMR, but with all the guns being a  lazer beam, the SMR in this example needs to be able to compete

           

          ie. the riot sheild (assault sheild) needs to be better id like to see it be more competitive

          • Xx_PORKY_xX Novice 114 posts since
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            Xx_PORKY_xX     Dec 11, 2012 8:53 AM (in response to Err0r_6_)

            I find the Riot Shield absolutly useless. No matter how i use it i die so easy. It's either my butt sticking out, Walking sideways to the oposition so they see my whole side or heads is out... list goes on haha.

            • Err0r_6_ Apprentice 834 posts since
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              Err0r_6_     Dec 11, 2012 9:07 AM (in response to Xx_PORKY_xX)

              well i noticed more that they made it so you butt wouldnt stick out, maybe I missed something, the problem i saw was  the enemy shooting threw my sheild, or me pulling down my sheild fully just to have the enemy kill me, ,, watch the kill cam and it shows me still pulling down my sheild.

          • zvers Master 3,598 posts since
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            zvers     Dec 11, 2012 10:52 AM (in response to Err0r_6_)

            I've run into some pretty good players with the riot shield playing hard point. I guess you just have to be able to play out of your comfort zone.

  • timelordalex Expert 1,902 posts since
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    timelordalex     Dec 11, 2012 12:02 PM (in response to Err0r_6_)

    oh god the SMR is useless is it meant to be depicted in zombies as bad weapon, it takes forever to kill a zombie on round 3

  • rock.theory Novice 262 posts since
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    rock.theory     Dec 11, 2012 1:24 PM (in response to Err0r_6_)

    I am torn. I would like to see the SMR buffed, in a sense that a headshot is a OHK (one hit kill), yet I almost like it the way it is due to the fact that not many players use it. It probably should have a little less recoil if nothing else, OR actually have the grip do something to help out.

    • Err0r_6_ Apprentice 834 posts since
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      Err0r_6_     Dec 13, 2012 5:50 AM (in response to rock.theory)

      ive been using it, and i can get good game play with it, but if i find myself going up against an organized party, ill have to put it away and use my try hard class.. ( FAL)

  • TeamKillerMAC Apprentice 305 posts since
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    TeamKillerMAC     Dec 11, 2012 2:26 PM (in response to Err0r_6_)

    I love the SMR, a really good weapon in my book.

    • zvers Master 3,598 posts since
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      zvers     Dec 13, 2012 7:27 AM (in response to TeamKillerMAC)

      What attachments do you recommend? I'm an AR user and use almost all of them but the SMR just doesn't feel like it brings something special to the table. IMO more disappointing than the M8.

      • Err0r_6_ Apprentice 834 posts since
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        Err0r_6_     Dec 13, 2012 8:24 AM (in response to zvers)

        i can tell you what i use, and thats target finder, select fire, and silencer, i found this to be pretty successful

        • zvers Master 3,598 posts since
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          zvers     Dec 13, 2012 8:47 AM (in response to Err0r_6_)

          The select fire seems kind of useless because the rate of fire is still too low IMO to waste a slot on it. Target finder....hmmm. I don't think I've tried that one yet on the SMR.

          • Err0r_6_ Apprentice 834 posts since
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            Err0r_6_     Dec 13, 2012 8:57 AM (in response to zvers)

            the reason why i use it is more for comfort. i can still single shot it for distance or spam it for closer engagements..

             

            People hate on the target finder, but those people are just the run and gunners that dont want to use cold blood and remove there beloved toughness

             

             

            you just have to get use to losing your side vision while scoped in, but its not a big deal

            • sk1N1TbacK187 Newbie 28 posts since
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              sk1N1TbacK187     Dec 13, 2012 9:06 PM (in response to Err0r_6_)

              i use that same setup on my SMR sometimes, only difference is i use reflex part of the time instead of tgt finder and the silencer seems to calm the recoil a lil to me, maybe it doesnt, but i sure seem to be more accurate with it...

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