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Right, say for instance you are running around with a assualt rifle on Turbine, you should in theory keep your engagements to a mid-long range, however if you find yourself going through the large building on the side of the map this will cause the engagement that you could encounter to be close quarters. Now if there is a player on the opposite team running around with a shotgun he needs to keep his engagements to close quarters as against mid-long.

This should in theory give you advantage across more or less the entire map (on Turbine) except in the building I mentioned earlier. However the problem is he keeps killing you all over the map. This would then cause you to state his gun is OP! Wrong..... he does not have a OP gun what he has is better map navigating skills than you. He has worked out ways to get around the map that keep his engagements to CQC, this therefore will always give him the advantage.

This is one example of getting out played by a so called OP gun where as it is actually just navigating the map better than you.

Does this clarify my point for you?

I agree with you on this (due to the lag) but the weapons/perks/scorestreaks seem fine.

exactly, Rock, Paper, Scissors lol

I have to disagree, SMG's are powerfull in CQC/mid range, however shotguns are stronger in CQC (providing you get the shot on target). AR's & LMG's are good mid range but are much stronger in long range. The only gun that seems to be proficient in all areas is the sniper rifle (providing you can quick scope). If someone uses a smg and picks off someone using a AR/LMG/Sniper at long range then the only explanation for this is the guy with the SMG has got his aim on point whereas the other guy has missed his shots.

Yeah I know, I have just read the patch notes, Can't see why they have made any of these changes, the only reason the guns seem OP is because of the LAG! If the game performed as it should guns would kill as they are programed and would be no need to nerf them! the problem now comes with when you do get a good game the weapons will be too weak and you get the same effect of LAG lol.

Yeh ok that perk is useless as is dead silence. You have found a crack in my arguement however rather than sit complaining about it (seen many threads on here yet nothing in the patch notes about this problem) I just use something else like engineer which people say is "OP".

The problem occurs though when you get a majority complaining about things that are OP when they aren't and things like this go a miss!

yeah I understand what you are saying now. it is true that every time they make a change they shouldn't automatically nerf it. some players want it their way or the highway which is stupid, problem is these guys are the ones that complain because lets face it if you think nothing is wrong then why would you come on the forum to complain thatt it was balanced lol!!