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The game is SMG crap. they are half as accurate as they should be ar range. As of right now, Im taking snipers out at *their* range hipfire full auto while moving. Snipers scope time is BS for a rush game. take the calss out if you dont want quickscoping snipers to defend themselves because they have tracer bullets saying here i am. The maps are too small, with 3 ways to any given sniper position in pistol range.

Im just sick of having to use an SMG against other good players with SMG, there are so many guns but only 3 usable?

Sorry, but the SMG class are totally overpowered and overpaced. He can run literally 100 cirlces around you before he kills you. 3arch absolutely missed to take this massive speed advantage out of the class. And no, SMG's require no skill in this game. Hipfiring them is nearly 100 percent accurate. WTF? People that aim properly get in this disadvantage and through the bullshit high speed movement they are nearly impossible to kill.

Also it's embarassing the the developer dictates how to play the game. And you disqualified yourself by "SMG's are the weaponry of the future". So soldiers slap a zoom objective on their MP7 and start to snipe insurgents that are one mile away? Come on you must be kidding.

Im a CoD Vet, I've been around Since "Call Of Duty" (PC) and I will say, this cgame has come a long way. It will NEVER be perfect but IMO there always stepping in the right direction, well Treyarch anyway. IW went from a great company to little more then nothing. Sadly..

screw smg's they should not be a powerful gun. i agree with them being good for rushing but rushing in every game gets booring. i like to use diffrent weapons styles and get rushed on constantly ith a person flying at you and you dump half a mag of assulat rifle or heavy machine gun and they don't die and they hit you with 2 rounds is BS.

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Nerf the SMGs: BO2 is pro-rusher and that was stated months ago when we was only hearing about the tip-bits of details. You should've of already noticed that the SMG's were going to be the best gun type. SMGs are pro-rusher (NOT pro-camper, you should be glad of that) If the devs are going to nerf them they can nerf snipers as well. Treyach aren't going to nerf the gun type of which fits their game design. The more players using SMG's the better. Its the SMG's which bring along the fast paced gameplay. Not to mention that using SMG's require a lot of skill. Your always on the front line getting a quick kill and then being killed (which happens a lot) while the snipers/assaults just take the rest. SMG's are the future of weaponry, guns don't need to be big anymore to be powerfull and have good range. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they got rid of assault rifles altogether, the SMG's can now do what they can  with more mobility.

 

 

1) Why is fast paced gameplay better than strategic gameplay?

2) How does using an SMG require skill or more skill than a person using an AR or Sniper? 

3) How does getting a quick kill and than dying help your team?

Let me answer my questions for you.

1) It is not.  A strategic team will beat your fast paced team everyday of the week.  By all means please keep running around, dying and messing up the spawns.  I will rack up the wins and you can watch as I pick you off from a distance.

2) It requires no skill to let auto aim get you kills.  The person using the SMG hardly ever aims, sprays bullets everywhere hoping for the computer to kick in and get them the kill.  I am not sure how anyone could say this takes skill.  All you are doing is hitting the trigger.  While the sniper or the AR person is aiming down the sights, shooting at your head or chest, in an attempt to take you down.  Also, the SMG users are relying on the fact that their gun fires faster so that they can do more damage quicker. 

3) I don't care what gametype you are playing going 1 for 1 does not help your team.  There is rare instance it may help delay the enemy from owning you if you happen to be rushing in to defend an objective.  Even then it will likely still hurt your team in the end because you have not pushed the enemy back off the objective you have just delayed them in taking it.  Maybe you can respawn and keep preventing this from happening in some matches.  However against a skilled team they are going to keep pushing.  They will slay you until they control the map then they will capture and move on.  Eventually they will have you spawn trapped and you will be sitting there at with a k/d of .2 going WTF happened. 

The game needs to be balanced in order for it to work, this (the SMGs) are one of the things Treyarch needs to balance.

There is a legitimate complaint against the SMG's they are far too accurate with little to no recoil over large distances.  They should not be able to maintain the accuracy and high rate of fire over a distance.  The AR's are more accurate because it takes longer to ADS and they don't fire as fast.  also, SMG's should not get the benefit of auto aim assist, or have a huge spread if not using the laser steady aim attachment.  Again this is another balancing issue.  We each can only take 10 items in our class if you want to hip fire you should have to use the laser sight.  This means you leave out a silencer, a sight, or a perk. 

Regarding your other points -

The lag comp is a legitimate issue.  If you were 1-2 seconds behind your enemies you would have a hard time getting any kills.

The Spawns are what they are.  Given the map size we are stuck with the current system no matter how bad the system is. 

Drop shot or not I will still get the kill.  By now everyone should be able to adjust.  The only players that are surprised by this are new players.  The experienced players will just keep shooting and get the kill. 

I agree with you on every point except one - the lag. Justs because you havn't experienced it yourself doesn't mean it's not happening to others. This game is unplayable for the most part for a lot of people myself included.

It's great there are some people enjoying the game as it should be so congrats mate. Keep playing. I agree with you for all the other comments you made except for connecttion, on PS3 anyway.

PS: It's not my broadband. I have a 9 second ping with 150 Down and 15 up. Hope they patch it soon.

agreed, and smgs are not the only usable weapons, there are really good AR (MTAR Type 25 AN 94 Etc.) DSR is gold for me, so is my knife. And really, I think the people that completely rush in this game are easy kills, most of the time I shoot them out playing a more strategical style (setting up traps ambush and kill. Flanking is amazing in this game.)