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2849 Views 27 Replies Latest reply: Nov 25, 2012 1:54 AM by 8_x RSS
8_x Novice 426 posts since
May 26, 2012

I am no sniper camper, but the Ghost setup is silly. Snipers camp! That is what they are supposed to do! Who's dumb idea was it to force them to move?

Posted by 8_x on Nov 17, 2012 6:32 PM

One of the best things about snipers is trying to find them!

 

That's the friggin point of a sniper!!!!!!

 

Some of war's greatest stories involve a hard to find sniper.

 

Obviously some camper hating cry babies at Treyarch had a hand in this choice.

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  • SULLY130EighT Expert 626 posts since
    Mar 19, 2012
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    It's to cater to the Faze and Optic wannabes. Quickscoping is a stupid disease that's infected the franchise and its community. That's what this game and the past Call of Duty games since MW2 is catering too. They haven't made a good Call of Duty game for guys who like to play the sniper's role since World at War. Yeah you can quick scope in World at War. But they had plenty of maps with good sniping spots to sit back and pick off the enemy.

     

    Black Ops had a couple good maps for playing a sniper. MW3 had one decent map for sniping.

  • lPlatinumb Newbie 13 posts since
    Aug 21, 2012
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    Well, stop being a sitting duck and move around.

    • BabelFish Newbie 86 posts since
      Nov 15, 2012
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      To be honest campers kinda ruin cod. Snipers included,I mean it does take skill to aim properly but it takes no skill to sit there and watch a known spawn point/funnel and just faceroll for xp.

       

      They catch on and stop going there after you get your 2-3 free kills?

      Okay you move to the nexp camping spot and set up there. More free kills/xp.

       

      What they did was deter you from going "lol camp".

      • SitRepPro Expert 2,038 posts since
        Mar 28, 2012
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        Snipers sacrifice being able to spam up scorestreaks, or killstreaks in previous titles.  And I know how much people loved the Reaper in MW3.  It takes more skill using snipers than fully automatic/burst fire weapons anyway.

         

        The stupidity of this change to get rid of camping means we'll see more snipers quickscoping because they are forced to be even more mobile than before.  I suspect LMGs are most hit by the change because of the lack of movement speed as many of the snipers in the game are lighter than the LMGs.

        • mastermc Newbie 15 posts since
          Aug 28, 2011
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          oh i love you , for thinking of the lmg people.

           

          since teh new ghost works on how fast you move i have a bad feeling that with lmg's making oyu move so slow that we will almost always bee shown. and what happens when we need to reload for 4 secs.

          • SitRepPro Expert 2,038 posts since
            Mar 28, 2012
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            mastermc wrote:

             

            oh i love you , for thinking of the lmg people.

             

            since teh new ghost works on how fast you move i have a bad feeling that with lmg's making oyu move so slow that we will almost always bee shown. and what happens when we need to reload for 4 secs.

             

            Yep.  I used to run the LMGs in Overkill classes in COD4 (1 - M60E4 & M249 SAW; 2 - M60E4 & RPD) and the three LMGs actually felt distinct, which is why I had two classes with them.  Had to sacrifice a perk 1 slot for the grip attachment so I felt Overkill was the only option to justify losing a perk while everyone loved using the suppressor attachment that only had 25% damage drop off IIRC and then spam frag x3.

             

            I use the L86 with grip and thermal in MW3 and I've brought down Reapers and Pave Lows before they had a chance to kill anyone on my side.  But at least the buff to LMGs made them practical to use and you could get a sizeable amount of kills to select the gun knowing you're still contributing to the team.

             

            The M60E4 is okay in BO1, pair it with Lightweight and Extreme Conditioning and it should be pretty beastly.  Probably the only alternative to countering FAMAS/AUG spam.

             

            I'd like to see perks be attached to weapon choice in the future, either in addition to already selected perks, or as a substitute.  With snipers you could run an Overkill class with a short range weapon but it will force more stationary snipers to top up on the equipment for protection, and people already moan about the bouncing betties.

  • cymbolmonkey115 Novice 160 posts since
    Nov 17, 2012
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    Just run around and kill like I do... I've always moved about with a sniper rifle and pistol. Camping is boring really but I do agree with what you are saying. I guess they could have made the ghost perk more of a delay on the map? Like every 2 flashes on the HUD they are shown or something.

     

    Personally, they shouldn't have made such easy campable maps anyway... I find standing in one spot absolutely boring. It was the SMG users that made them do this anyway. They took advantage of the strongest weapons and just went crazy. I think all Perks should have cons as well.. to try and balance out such problems. Like snipers would have more benefit from ghost. SMGs have more benefit from Extreme conditioning.

  • craigtg Newbie 18 posts since
    Aug 19, 2011
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    When it comes to camping, my Clan teases me about my camping. I will camp with the best of them. Now I have been working on a different style of camping..."moblie camping". I don't understand why people get so mad about camping. Most of the "campers" that are called "campers" are players that ususally had just spawned and took out someone, or they had just got to a spot and took out someone.

     

    As far as camping, why do people get so mad? It is a military style of tactic. Instead of looking for the enemy, you wait for the enemy to come. It's called ambushing. Most of the people that get taken out by a camper are people that blindly run passed a corner, or into a room without flashing it first. So those that get taken out by a camper are mad because they are to stupid to check a corner or room? Who is really the goof here, the camper who shot them, or the person who didn't "look before they leap"?

     

    Just a fair warning to all who enter my line of sight, I will camp. I will make you mad because you don't watch where you run. Oh yeah, I will almost always have a gift for you when you come to look for me. Becareful, you could wind up on YouTube...lol <evil laugh> , ICEE Stealth OL is the name, Team ICEE is my Clan.

  • Menosparadox Newbie 31 posts since
    Jun 14, 2012
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    Maybe they should have a sniper only accessible set up ?? Like perks that can only be activated with sniper usage only, it's something that would be class specific which IMO would be revolutionary to cod

    • mastermc Newbie 15 posts since
      Aug 28, 2011
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      if they do that they need to include lmg becuase of how slow we already move and aim, stealth was are only saving grace, and thats now gone.

  • Menosparadox Newbie 31 posts since
    Jun 14, 2012
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    Btw I love getting the typical douch3 saying oh ill 1v1 you in a quick scope match lol my response ? How about a handguns only match ?! IMO that's more of a challenge ! Who said quick scoping is a measure of true skill ? Lol

      • Menosparadox Newbie 31 posts since
        Jun 14, 2012
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        Honestly I can admit I don't know nor care to ever quick scope it isn't be being upset that I can't do it what upsets me is when people say oh you're hard scoping !? Lol are you seriously telling me you're better than me because you can quick scope ? Fine go ahead ! While you shoot 3 times to zero me in ill shoot once while hard scoping and the reverse ill shoot 3 times and you shoot once ultimately since this game became more main stream it's become less of a competition of killing and winning which should be simple ! Lol and now is about who can be better at killing and winning ?! I love the guys who lose the match and talk smack about how much better they are because they can quick scope or their kdr lol dude you lost to someone who according to you is inferior ! Then what does that mean ? Maybe guys should be focusing less on qs or kdrs or who's got a monitor and just find and kill people !

  • ON3BR1T15H1D10T Calculating status... 6 posts since
    Nov 16, 2012
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    i would like to point out that the point of a sniper is to camp. i want to say thats wrong. the point of a sniper is to find a spot, take aim, shoot once then move on. so the point of a sniper to camp is wrong.

     

    i dont personaly camp however i like people that do because it makes them easy kills for a grenade, semtex or a rpg.

     

    i think its right that anyone sat still in one area should be able to stay off the map. it evens it out. if you camp then the enemy can detect you in return for you gettting some easy kills but if you move then you should be less detectable.

  • Entezio Calculating status... 4 posts since
    Nov 19, 2012
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    They should change the ghost thing so that people who hold snipers could stand still with ghost in affect. And when they pick up something that's not a sniper they have to run for the ghost affect!

    • hartsan Newbie 7 posts since
      Nov 27, 2011
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      At least for snipers but I woundn't mind if Ghost protected from Spy Planes with all other weapons too. Now you have to carry 3 different perks and spend 4 points on them to have effect of Black Ops Ghost Pro. Ain't that nerfing enough already?

       

      Spy Plane is so overpowered now, especially against snipers.

  • LilithofDevil Newbie 10 posts since
    Nov 18, 2012
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    I snipe, it's what I do and have done since W@W. My specialty in W@W, the PTRS, of which I could quick scope. I can quick scope pretty much any sniper rifle in any CoD game, including those games where quick scoping was supposedly removed. Sometimes I will sit in one spot and snipe, but most of the time I won't. It really depends on the game play. If I am dealing with people sitting in corners, well, why put myself out there, I will sit too. Same goes for noob tubers, I will camp if the opposing team is doing nothing but noob tubing. But taking out something that makes a sniper a sniper, well...that's just plain retarded.

  • fusco89 Newbie 2 posts since
    Nov 15, 2012
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    i agree with you and i think that with this update it shouldnt be unlocked at 55 it should be one of the first ones you get since it doesnt completely block you from the uav. its basically useless. i mean if you want to prestige you dont really even get a chance to use it and i wouldnt use my only permanent unlock that prestige for such a crappy perk

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