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Personally, im loving it. I genuinally think that it is in the top 3 best Call of Duty games ever made. The Pick 10 system is amazing, the graphics are spectactular, love all the scorestreaks and finally the game plays well. Theres no horrible spawns (well except 2 maps: Hijacked -can be weird at times- and Nuketown 2025), Im having so more fun playing this game than I did on MW3.

I love it, though many people will probably disagree with me.

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Heads up about some of the maps, I dont really like the open maps especially the one on the aircraft carrier. Too much like Countdown from CoD4 (I didn't like that map).

I'd say that the game is pretty good.  Definitely something new and worth the money.  However, they are having a lot of server issues still which is making the online experience a crap shoot.  Hopefully, the server issues will get resolved soon.  I know that they are feverishly working on it based on the twitter feeds.

best way to describe this game is frustrating one minute i can kill some across he map with 3-4 shots the next thing you know its taking a full clip to get the kill at the minute with the lag and spawns this game is on par with mw3 for me hopefully the will get it sorted soon then i can start enjoying playing

If you did not have an issue with lag in MW3, you will likely be ok getting BO2.

However, I still don't know that I would recommend it. 

If you were someone who camped you will have a heck of a time in this game.  You will hate it and want to return it day one. 

If you were someone who enjoyed MW3 because you like to run around with no goal or objective hip firing and spraying all over the place then this game is for you.  There is no strategy or skill associated with this game.  Auto aim will get you kills while ADS will get you killed.  If you don't care about k/d then you should be ok. 

The MP maps are pretty poor in my opinion.  All of them are small.  The Black Ops 1 maps really made it a strong game.  There were small maps, medium and large maps so the combat was a bit varied.  The BO2 maps are all smaller than the medium size maps on BO1.  There is crap scattered everywhere all of it set up to allow players to head glitch making it even more difficult to get out of spawn traps  or being spawn killed. 

Oh yeah I have not mentioned all the spawn killing yet.  If you play objective (CTF, Demolition or Dominaion) you will get spawn killed to death.  If you play TDM you are going to get spawned behind and killed 5 times a match.  The only way to not get spawn killed is to make sure you are spawn killing the other team.  I don't quite think Treyarch intented for this to be the only strategy in the game however it is. 

Don't even think about score streaks unless you are running the lowest three.  In Black Ops 1 I could get dogs at least every other game but I struggle to get more than a UAV in BO2 because I am always getting killed by someone who spawns behind me. 

I will say the the pick 10 system is pretty cool even if the unlock system is very 17th century when compared to the Black Ops 1 unlock system. 

The reason I would not recommend buying it is because even if they get the lag issues fixed or you are not impacted by the lag issues, given the size of the maps there is nothing you can really do to avoid the spawn issues because the maps are just way too small for 6v6. 

Even if Treyarch decides to release 10 large maps via DLC at this point very few people are going to sign up for better maps in a game they believe is broken.  So even if you get the DLC very few others are going to have it. 

What I find ironic is that they have now given players the ability to record and post all of the lag issues to the internet.  I have never been into using the theater but this issue is so large that I really feel like I need to spend time posting all of the in game BS. 

If you are thinking about buying now I would consider buying it from Gamestop used.  I believe there is a 10 day return policy and if you don't like the game you are free to return it.  So you can use GS to rent the game at no cost.  Given how many people are disatisfied with the game I imagine there are going to be tons of copies for sale.  

$50 for 4 maps is the biggest rip off I ever heard of, this is black ops all over again with few minor changes and diff maps. the people at Treyarch have failed again....and I thought Activision was bad, wow

Good:

1. Graphis and color schemes on maps, best out of any game in the series (personal opinion)

2. Choices, choices and more choices for customization

Bads:

1. Map layouts are equal to MW3.  For me this was a negative, as I was not a fan of all the CQC crap.

2. Way too many head glitching spots

3. Inconsistent game play (lag related)

4. Spawns.  Did you like the revenge spawns in MW3, then you will love this game; otherwise, they are pretty frustrating.

5. Something is goofy with the pistols.  I haven't been able to pin down the issue, but over the past 24 hours more and more folks are running them and they seem to be getting insta kills with them.

I am on Xbox and have only had the CAMPAIGN freeze once on me

It's too early to ask people on their opinions. Yes MW3 had major issues on release especially on Ps3. Other than the connection error when i've been able to play it, it has run much smoother than mw3 did on release.

Most of this feed back from people will change in about a month once people get a real grasp on the game other than surface opinions. If you like Mw3 and you liked blackops then blackops 2 will fit you. It's a hybrid of both games.

got to say not abad game really (pick 10,prestige weapons,spawns),i find the maps compact lots of cover but lag i find is a issue u could head shot someone with a full mag and he still wont die he shoots you with 2 bullets ya dead but kill cam shows he emptyd a clip into ya. but when i got it home from midnight launch and played wow i couldnt kill people fast enought was getting 40 -9 and now after 4 days aw summit im getting 7-39  ,weapons are over powered killing someone with a mp7 from across the map now come on and the last couple of days everyones using snipers and shotguns , so for summary ill give it a week and if it doesnt improve then selling it and bk to mw3 iv even emailed trayarc and awaiting responce ,

sorry if bad grammer  has been used im crap at english lol

got to say not abad game really (pick 10,prestige weapons,spawns),i find the maps compact lots of cover but lag i find is a issue u could head shot someone with a full mag and he still wont die he shoots you with 2 bullets ya dead but kill cam shows he emptyd a clip into ya. but when i got it home from midnight launch and played wow i couldnt kill people fast enought was getting 40 -9 and now after 4 days aw summit im getting 7-39 ,weapons are over powered killing someone with a mp7 from across the map now come on and the last couple of days everyones using snipers and shotguns , so for summary ill give it a week and if it doesnt improve then selling it and bk to mw3 iv even emailed trayarc and awaiting responce ,

sorry if bad grammer has been used im crap at english lol

For me I rank it just after WaW, which for me is tied 3rd with MW2 but for most people would be ranked 6th lol.

The best way I would describe it is different.It doesnt play much like any other in the modern era CoDs. That my opinion, but its also the reason I actually like it (hated BO1 and rank that second last in the entire series after CoD3).

Perks no longer feel neccessary, which some people call balanced.

I feel that a little bit more could have been done to make some of them feel like a viable option. Teir 2 has no standout useful perks and most my classes do not have one equiped.

Hardline (Teir1) and seing equipment through walls (forget name, Teir3) are the only perks that are notable enough for me to use regularly.

There is leadway in this though as it leaves you open to make the choice of adding something different to your class. Once you start thinking outside the box and remove yourself from the old idea of how your class is created you can come up with some extremely fun classes to play.

The map design is continuing the BO and forward idea of not having any less than 2 or more entrances to an area. Forcing movement and increasing the chances of enemy encounters.

There is once again the lack of even a single sniper map which makes me greatly sad. There are areas on some maps that are viable for sniping, however when that area is the main part of the map (looking at you Drone), its pretty much impossible not to get counter sniped). Just a single map in the vein of Wasteland, Overgrown, Creek, Downfall, Outskirts, SEELOW! I would be greatful for. Even if it is going to be skipped over 90% of the time, just the option would be nice. However I can accept that CoD is no longer the game that provides that experience (I belive this is mostly due to the criticism WaW recieved), but I degress.

Gun choice doesn't feel relevant outside of choosing gun class and rate of fire, another issue I have had with the series since BO1. A gun is a gun and is going to kill in a couple of shots,

New additions of things such as Black Hat are fun and open up different play styles. My traditional sniper class always, without a doubt has been Sniper + handgun leaving me open to airsupport attacks. Blackhat, being an equipment means you can still have the fun of messing with people's pointstreaks and not jepordise your CQC safety.

The Assult Shield a good fun and alot more versitile than the riot shield. Get to the objective, place it down, pull out your secondary and defend from cover. Had alot of fun experimenting with that class today.

I'm sure I could go on for ever about the game but really my only point is that its different. Its the same CoD, but tweaked to be something not quite what it was before. Mostly in a possitive way.

I would have to agree with the others in saying that the biggest problems are Lag Comp and Level Design.

I will admit I never experienced the lag much on Infinity Ward games, but I also have a really fast internet upload and download speed. I do however feel that I get killed by "curving bullets" more than anything else in this game.

The levels are all just WAY too small. I wouldn't mind if there were just a few large maps and maybe even one extra large map in the rotation. Just really poor level design on Treyarch's part.

Also there are too many obstacles in the way on every map.

It seems that Treyarch believes that they have to really really overbalance the game. Which would allow new players to be able to play with veterans on equal playing ground no matter how skilled you are. This however is a {[(HUGE}]) problem. They almost take skill out of the equation all together.

I honestly feel that the game shouldn't be catered to newbies.

It should allow them to pick it up quickly and learn on the go, which Treyarch did somewhat well at least with combat training, but keep anything like that out of multiplayer and let the battles be determined only by skill.

Also Activision is a money-grubbing whore of a company.

Zombies is alright though. Some pretty cool ideas were thrown in there. The survival maps could have been done a little different. Mayber a little bigger.

Tranzit just takes a while to get used to. Once you do however it's pretty cool. Will be really upset if the easter egg really requires 4 people to do. Other than that it's awesome.

Single player has some interesting things added to it that make it slightly more enjoyable, especially to the crowd that don't have internet. But how many times can you save the United States from total annihilation?

I would say nay. Don't buy it unless you like remakes of remakes of remakes of remakes... you get the point.

Continue playing decent games like Assasin's Creed 3, Dishonored, Skyrim (for some other system other than PS3). Or just play great old games like Xenogears, Secret of Evermore, or Castlevania: Symphony of the Night.

Screw the popular choice.

My only complaint is the freezing, the maps are mostly great and the only semi-problem I've got is ghost, but that's fine.. guess its better than assassin in Mw3.