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tlaspepper Novice 177 posts since
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Oct 18, 2012 6:54 AM

MW3 in a nutshell.

I`ve spent countless hours a day playing MW3 since it came out because of my job schedule. I`ve done my share of spectating, video watching, using 2 ifferent types of intermet service at the same time, watching peoples connection, scores and etc. (etc means- and so forth and so on.) Heres my breakdown of MW3 on the wii.

 

Problems that make MW3 bad to play.

 

1. Hackers

 

2. Lag

 

3. MW3 itself

 

Theres not much difference in hackers and lag. They both cause the same amount of problems. We all know that hackers are bad so Im not going to get into that but theres just as much of an issue with lag. It doesnt matter if your internet is good or not.Im only 3,000 plus feet from my server with good internet and it doesnt matter. I still think that superior internet will make a difference. Example: My girlfriends internet is alittle better than mine but its inconsistent. One day her son was playing MW3 nad I was playing also on the same team and he was doing good, so she went into his room to look at what he was doing and she told me over the phone, He`s got very good hit detection. More than what you have. She said, the internet must be doing good today. Anyway, Im thinking maybe if you had the best or that verizon internet thats top of the line it wouldnt matter if theres a such thing as lag compensation or not. I never been a big fan of believing in lag compensation but the other day I was spectating a guy and he said, whos the host, Im playing good. He didnt know it was me....lol...I spectated the whole game. So, who knows. I dont get beat by good players, I get beat by players that arent that good. They pull the trigger and Im down. I look at their score and they finish the game like 7-16 and 4 kills of the 7 were me....lol...I blame these types of kills on lag. This is an everyday, every game thing. Im getting beat by people that arent that good but they have this super hit detection that I dont have. My NAT type is always OPEN. So I think Im getting beat by lag more than anything. Besides hackers, lag is my biggest set-back with this game. I cant be as good as I can because of lag. Im ok in the morning when theres not many people on but as the dfay goes by it fades away due to the internet bing bogged down with users. So, with that said. Hackers and especially lag is the biggest problem and issue  with this game.

 

Now the game itself. The game has what I call, LEGAL CHEATS made into the game. They are called, DEATHSTREAKS. This is totally cheating at its best made legal by the people who made the game. JUICED isnt that big of a deal. REVENGE, isnt that like constant UAV on 1 person til you kill him.Thats a hack!!!!!!!!!!! FINAL STAND, I can kill you but you live and can stand back up and keep going. WRONG...If you hit the ground, you should be dead-PERIOD!!!!!!!  MARTYRDOM, how do you drop a live grenade if you never pulled the pin out? WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!! DEADMANS HAND, once again, if you hit the ground after being shot you should be dead. This is also wrong. HOLLOW POINTS, isnt this a hack that the (peenas clan) uses? WRONG!!!!!!!!! These are all hacks that the makers put into the game as LEGAL CHEATS. If you need these deathstreaks to help you, as the game says to give you that extra help when things arent going your way, you just need to keep playing and practice. As I said before, HACKERS CANT PLAY THE GAME SO THEY CHEAT TO BE COMPETITIVE. The game says that deathstreaks are for players who need that extra help when things arent going your way. So I just justified that the game has LEGAL CHEATS in it which is wrong and is nothing but LEGAL HACKING.

 

Another thing is the rifle. I know the game is somewhat suppose to be realistic and the rifle thing is not right at all. I use to deer hunt and I had a 12 gauge shotgun and a 243-high powered rifle with variable zoom scope. First, theres no such thing as quickscope. This is a cheat. Since some of you think pwnsweet is so good he quickscopes. You can quickscope all you want but you probably wont hit your target in real life. There should be no acog scope in this game for a rifle. The rifles should have variable zoom scopes but be EXTREMELY HARD to use. Variable scopes should be more like acog but hard to keep still without holding your breath.They did do right by putting hold your breath on them because in real life to be extremely acurate you need to hold your breath because I know for fact. I think the scopes should be extremely sensitive than what they have it. It should be almost impossible to use a scoped rifle in this game unless you catch someone sitting. I leave the game when I get killed with 1 shot by a rifle because its unfair. Its either acogging or quickscope that killed me not someone thats acurate or good with a rifle. Something else they have wrong with a rifle is, you should be able to kill someone very close by hip-firing a rifle. I`ve shot at people a few feet away and didnt hit them. Thats wrong. That rifle doesnt shoot that far off.

 

As for a shotgun. They have that close. If someone is a few feet away, 1 shotgun blast close range should put you on your butt. I dont have a lot of bad to talk about the shotgun.

 

So, with all this said, lag is just about as bad as hacking and the game itself is another issue and that equals MW3.

  • SpeedStarTMQ Novice 92 posts since
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    Oct 18, 2012 10:56 AM (in response to tlaspepper)
    Re: MW3 in a nutshell.

    Firstly, lag is pretty much nonexistant. There are certain matches I play where lag can be a problem, but that's been the case for every single online video game I've ever played. More often than not, I find MW3 has a smooth, consistent framerate with litle to no lag online. I had more lag in Black Ops which was still great and probably the worst two games for lag and lag shooting- MWR and M@W- still had a totally playable and enjoyable experience online.

     

    Hackers. I don't call them hakers because they're not. They're not hacking the game. They're cheating. They're using external media to dig through the games files and manipulate the game, similar to what cheat discs allow. Cheaters are the worst part of Modern Warfare 3. There is nothing more to say about that.

     

    Finally, what's wrong with Modern Warfare 3 itself? It's not the perfect game, but then none of the Call of Duty games have been. It's got some irritating things; dual wield weapons, some unfair spawns, some dumb decisions like not kicking team killers and not shwoing the amount of intel you've collected unless you're in a campaign mission, but that's it.

     

    The Death Streaks aren't cheating, they don't even come close. It's rare that people use Death Streaks and they're most easily avoidable. If someone is that sorry a player to get their ass handed to them that many times they deserve some help, and frankly, if they've been beaten so much, it's probably by some little quickscoping bastard or someone spamming the Dual Wields.

    Juiced? How does that affect you? People are still shootable. Revenge? They've still gotta hunt and kill you. Final Stand? You can still kill them, it only delays the inevitable unless they're far away and no one else has bothered to down them if you've died. Martyrdom? That's easily avoidable. Dead Man's hand? Not so much, but it's still a rarity and you should play smarter instead of running right up to people shooting them. Hollow Points? There used to be a perk for this called Stopping Power.

     

    At the end of the day, things like quick scoping and extra damage for sniper rifles are part of the entire CoD franchise, not just MW3. I don't like them, but it doesn't break the game.

     

    If you don't like the game, just don't play it. We've heard all this a billion times. I respect what you're saying but you're breaking apart fundamentals from Call of Duty, and not just this game.

    • fissuresofrequent Master 2,396 posts since
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      Oct 18, 2012 3:03 PM (in response to SpeedStarTMQ)
      Re: MW3 in a nutshell.

      SpeedStarTMQ wrote:

       

      Hackers. I don't call them hakers because they're not. They're not hacking the game. They're cheating. They're using external media to dig through the games files and manipulate the game, similar to what cheat discs allow. Cheaters are the worst part of Modern Warfare 3

       

      Most don't even do that much work. The best term is "copying and pasting". Most people you see cheating on MW3 just simply copy some code into a cheat manager that is send to their SD card which they put in their Wii. Any 5 year old could do it.

       

      If someone is that sorry a player to get their ass handed to them that many times they deserve some help

       

      The only deathstreak that actually helps a player is juiced and maybe revenge........ All the others give a no skilled kill that is not a boost of any sort to affect their play style. Where is the balance in that?

      No one deserves a mini nuke or a grenade to poop out their A** beause they are doing bad.

       

      I don't even like it when I go on a deathstreak. (which is rare) All it does is remind me that I'm sucking.

       

       

       

       

    • pauly01 Master 3,769 posts since
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      Oct 20, 2012 5:58 AM (in response to SpeedStarTMQ)
      Re: MW3 in a nutshell.

      SpeedStarTMQ wrote:

       

      Firstly, lag is pretty much nonexistant. There are certain matches I play where lag can be a problem, but that's been the case for every single online video game I've ever played.

       

      Self contadiction No1. Can't be bothered to read anymore.

      • SpeedStarTMQ Novice 92 posts since
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        Oct 23, 2012 2:44 PM (in response to pauly01)
        Re: MW3 in a nutshell.

        Pretty much, meaning 99% gone. Certain matches where lag is a problem being when the host is in deep Africa and has a **** connection. Therefore that's not a contradiction and it doesn't indicate a problem with the game either. You'll never play a game online without at least some lag sometimes, so based on the context of what we're talking about, "pretty much nonexistant" is justifiable considering all online games have lag.

         

        If you don't wanna read any more, then don't, I couldn't care less really.

  • codcanuck Master 2,251 posts since
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    Oct 18, 2012 3:36 PM (in response to tlaspepper)
    Re: MW3 in a nutshell.

    Lag will always be an issue in any online game. Not much you can do there.

     

    Certain CAPs can be countered with Blind Eye (redbox/assault-support), a Stinger (assault-support), or a rocket launcher (magnet-teleport).

     

    Revenge and Martyrdom aren't that bad. I used Revenge in the starting days of MW3 and I would almost always be killed by an enemy while hunting for the Revenge-targeted person. Martyrdom usually just wounds you if you sprint away. Hollow Points is kind of an issue. Dead Man's Hand is definitely the worst out of all of them. Juiced is perfectly fine.

     

    Got quickscopers? Do dropshots. Get sniped? Flank and stab the sniper in the back. One-hit sniper rifles will be in CoD for a long time, pal. You'll have to learn how to counter them.

    • SpeedStarTMQ Novice 92 posts since
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      Oct 19, 2012 1:51 AM (in response to codcanuck)
      Re: MW3 in a nutshell.

      I agree. However I don't have a problem with any death streak, purely because if they're using it you're gonna be winning. I've been annoyed by being blown up by Dead man's Hand a few times, but it's swings and roundabouts. I love popping someone from far away with Dead man's Hand and watching them just explode. It really adds insult to injury that you killed someone who's playing crap and they explode themselves.

       

      Dropshots are a way to avoid snipers. Unfortunately as codcanuck said, one-hit snipers will be in the games for a long time. I hate it, I think people who use sniper rifles constantly are pathetic and it shows a massive lack of skill, but that's the way the game goes. It would be better if the bullet gained damage over a distance. Quick or no-scoping someone with one bullet and killing them whilst they've pumped 3 in to you from another weapon is just poor, and it seems Activison have taken this"N00B" ability and marketed it. Quickscoping shouldn't exist but it does. Sod all the death streaks, THIS is the real problem of Call of Duty. It should only be allowed if it's an explosive round, and then there should be things to compensate for this power, like a smaller magazine, longer reload time, etc.

  • ooRajaRam Newbie 22 posts since
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    Oct 24, 2012 8:53 PM (in response to tlaspepper)
    Re: MW3 in a nutshell.

    You are so bitter. Why do you think it's impossible for you to be outgunned by someone with an inferior KD? in all of your threads/posts, you seem to be searching for a reason for your defeat. is it so absurd to accept the fact that you can't win every time? Also, WTF are you talking about with sniper rifles? You feel cheated when you get killed by one, saying, " it was probably acog or a quickscoper" but you feel like they should be better hip firing at close range? That makes no sense. The fact that a hip-fired barrett is basically the best SMG/Shotgun in the game has clearly eluded you. Why should a sniper rifle do good at close range, and a shotgun do good at long range? COD isn't about being hyper-realistic, it's a video game.

        • fissuresofrequent Master 2,396 posts since
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          Oct 26, 2012 4:44 AM (in response to tlaspepper)
          Re: MW3 in a nutshell.

          4.21 impossible? I had a 4.18 on MW3 with 57,000 kills until I got account hopped. Now I have a 7.5 KD with 10,000 kills. A 12.76 on black ops before I got hopped with 15,000 kills.

           

          Your descriptions of people hacking are very  bland as if you don't any hackers or what they look like and you just have your imaginary world of hackers.

          tlaspepper wrote:

           

          I know this game. I know what you can and cannot do. So to ooRajaRam, inferior kd usually means cheating, in return means your going to get outgunned.

          This is just absolutely sad you think this. This sounds like it's coming from a 10 year old crybaby

            • fissuresofrequent Master 2,396 posts since
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              Oct 26, 2012 1:29 PM (in response to tlaspepper)
              Re: MW3 in a nutshell.

              Lol Me the 10 year old? You're the one accusing anyone that is better than you a hacker. At least when I get beat fairly I can accept defeat.

               

              You are just a sorry excuse of a player.

               

              First of all none of my stats were negative so you are the one that can't be trusted. There are legit players on Xbox who can keep a 12. KD such as MarkofJ so why can't wii players do it.

               

              I never cheated so you need to stop making up your lies and accept the fact you are not the best player. You can't be the best at everything. I know I'm not the best at Blops. One person I know who is better then me is FeaR who ended up joining FluX. Back in black ops GB he was one of the best players legit players IMO.

               

              I don't know why I still try to argue with your hard headed self.

               

              Link to markofjs video

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVsqafzTn3o&feature=plcp

        • MW3dontplay Newbie 18 posts since
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          Nov 6, 2012 2:46 PM (in response to tlaspepper)
          Re: MW3 in a nutshell.

          Tlaspepper and I have been playing MW3 for who knows how long but the point is that we arent the best but we can tell a hacker when we see one. Dont think what i am about to say that we are hackers but if this game was top notch- no hackers, no cheaters, and no lag - we would hardly ever get killed.

          • codcanuck Master 2,251 posts since
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            Nov 6, 2012 8:28 PM (in response to MW3dontplay)
            Re: MW3 in a nutshell.

            MW3dontplay wrote:

             

            Dont think what i am about to say that we are hackers but if this game was top notch- no hackers, no cheaters, and no lag - we would hardly ever get killed.

             

            *smirk*

             

            Every online game has lag. It's impossible to have a "no lag" multiplayer game. As for the "hardly ever get killed" part...says who? Sorry, but I'm sensing that you guys feel like you're "supposed" to be the best and coming out below means that someone cheated.

      • codcanuck Master 2,251 posts since
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        Oct 26, 2012 6:55 AM (in response to tlaspepper)
        Re: MW3 in a nutshell.

        Wha...do you even know what the word "inferior" means? So far what I'm getting is that you think that people with lower K/Ds than you cheat. WTF. That makes no sense whatsoever. Or maybe you're saying that because you think that because your K/D is higher you should always stomp over the enemy team? And in regards to "People that aren't good kill me". Well, if they aren't good, shouldn't YOU be the one killing them? Your posts is filled with contradicting statements.

          • codcanuck Master 2,251 posts since
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            Oct 26, 2012 1:43 PM (in response to tlaspepper)
            Re: MW3 in a nutshell.

            Using your Superbowl example: the team with the better stats is LIKELY to win. Likely, not should. Why? Because anything can happen. Because there's a possibility of the less favorable team beating the more favorable team. Same thing in CoD. Anything can happen. K/D is merely a suggestion as to what the outcome will be. It is NOT a guarantee. Besides, what about dashboarders who inflate their K/D? If someone who's chickened out of countless games has a better K/D than you, then you're supposed to lose? Come on, mate. Half the fun of playing a game is not knowing the outcome. Back to your Superbowl example: if the team with better stats won all the time, then what would be the point of watching the game? If the team with better stats is "supposed" to win, then shouldn't the term "underdog" not exist?

             

            In conclusion: you are not entitled to winning because of a stat. Stats are only an indication, a hint of what will happen. It is not a guarantee. Please accept that, and please realize that someone beating you doesn't always mean they're cheating.

      • beedifer Novice 113 posts since
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        Oct 26, 2012 8:08 AM (in response to tlaspepper)
        Re: MW3 in a nutshell.

         

        Lag kills me in these games, not the people. People that arent good kill me. Cheaters kill me. So what I said at the beginning of this post refers to how I see MW3 in a nutshell. What I think is right or wrong.

         

         

        seriously pull your head out of your arse and stop crying because you get beat. im starting to think you have a superiority complex going on... do you honestly believe hackers and lagging is the only reason you die?? please tell me your trolling...

          • beedifer Novice 113 posts since
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            Oct 26, 2012 4:06 PM (in response to tlaspepper)
            Re: MW3 in a nutshell.

            pahahahahaahahahahahahheheheheheehhohohohoohohohoooooooooooo

             

            "erm ma gawrdszzz i cants b beatin legit, oim 2 gud!!!11111122221!"££$"!£!"!!!! i calls hackz"

             

            cool story bro, as they say

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