Aug 30, 2012 6:46 AM
Downgraded my internet And...~
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Its been Alot Better!, my shots count more, im on the good side of lag comp mostly... and I havent been host!!! ( from what I have seen) plus I save a couple bucks... Sweet!
lol... what a terrible game this is.
I'm happy for you. You will have to let us know if it keeps putting you on the good side of lag.
definitely, I know how this game is, so Ill say as of right now, its been alot better, I basically down graded my connection by half.. not the worst internet option, but like in the middle, and im digging it right now.. sad when you have to downgrade your internet to be able to play the game correctly
Sad that you must tweak your connection to get good games.
The devs still crying about everyone jiggling their connection, NOW IF THE GAME WOULD RUN PROPERLY NOBODY WOULD HAVE TO JIGGLE WITH THEIR CONNECTION, must say I keep my connection as it is, too much trouble to put it back for other games.
For now mw3 is the only game that I got giving trouble with online playing, no wonder the mw message was "Game experience may change during online play"
featherman84 wrote:
The devs still crying about everyone jiggling their connection, NOW IF THE GAME WOULD RUN PROPERLY NOBODY WOULD HAVE TO JIGGLE WITH THEIR CONNECTION
lol... GET OUT OF HERE WITH YOUR SOUND LOGIC AND TRUTHINESS.
BE GONE LOGIC MONSTER! BE GONE!
On an equally serious note, I'm like you. I have messed with my connection settings to try and get rid of my good connection disadvantage but it's just not worth messing with all the time. Game sucks, devs suck, whatever.
just one word.
LOLROFLMAO
Hmm, yeah let us know if it continues to be consistent for you on the better side of lag comp. Did you downgrade your upload speed mostly? Downgrading the DL speed should not have made your experiences better from what I understand.
sorry I didnt clarify, I downgraded both DL and Upload
Upload speed and ping is a major part of the lag comp equation. If you could get matched with players with fast connections and you have a slow one, their visuals will be delayed so you can beast out with an advantage.
exactly why I downgraded
What service and connection did you have before? And what do you have now?
Just to give an update how the game has played out for me since i changed my internet speeds:
it been very good!, I have only been host twice!
the game seems to be registering my shots!
some lag never goes away, you just have to take it .
i was running on 40mbs i cut it in half to 20mbs, which also reduced my upload as well significantly
I have a dedicated gigabit router for my PS3 with OpenWRT installed. The game was unplayable at 50meg download speeds. My upload speed clocks at 3 meg but that is only on large files, and takes a while to build up to that, initially starting around 128k, for small packets during PS3 gaming no doubt upload stays at 128k. With such a high download speed it made me host most games, but with no consideration for my upload speed I would get zero hitmarkers, even when I prefire, such as I hear an enemy coming to a door so I unload my clip mid way through the doorway, while still firing the enemy can still pop out unload his clip and kill me but I get zero hitmarkers on both my screen and no bullets nor damage in the kill cam. Kd was 5/33, typical.
I set my download speed to 500kbps max while in game with upload max of 10000kbps, played again, after 5 more agonizing 1 bullet deaths it finally bumped me from host, my KD went to 30/8 (note this only works in some lobbies since obviously I'm not the only one that knows lag compensation is the only factor that controls whether you live or die, skill is not a factor at all)
The latest fixes have made the game ridulously unfair, all I can do is spawn aim up and hope to find a uav to shoot before a stray bullet kills me, but even the half the time uavs are now invisible, if I lay a sam turrent i can watch the missles go up hit and explode absolutely nothing, and even if the do show up when I ads with the stinger it won't buzz/lock, if I ads in the out on it 2 more times it finally gets detected, but by then it is already zooming off. The same for kills, I must chase the enemy for like 10-30 seconds, wait for him to stand still, then empty a full clip into his back, but often then, after the 1st hit marker he just turns around and kills me anyway, if I push up against his back and knife, It misses 2-3 times, he again hears the knife turns around and kills me, completely unacceptable.
Lag compensation should be removed from the game, instead it should force everybodies upload & dowload speeds to be exactly the same, and stop screwing around with timestamps and hit detection, it is the only way to make the game fair.
If they set a minimum Up speed in order to be able to play this game, we would not be having these issues.
the PS3 gives an error on the internet test connection screen if your upload speed is considerably faster than your download speed but it still lets you play that way, with an upload speed of 2meg and a download speed of 0.5 you get no less than 5 times better hit detection than most other players and it will be directly reflect by your KD as it increases some 10 fold even when you get 'strict', but if you wait for a game to start, get 'nat type open' the bump up your upload and bump way down your download you essentially enter GOD mode. In the old days players got banned for 'lag switching' for even a split second but today lag compensation praises them for cheating the whole game non-stop. I also noticed messing with the MTU to 576 will bump most if not all orher players from the match when host, with a good connection you get host nearly every single game, if you do it while still in the lobby screen the match begins for you but nobody else, they just sit in the lobby 'says waiting' you can run around lay the bomb capture etc, then says team forfeits, gives you first place, and it puts you back in the lobby, only takes 30 secs total so nobody even realizes that's way it takes so long to join the game sometimes in lobby, and why we get bumped from games, everything about this game is a lie, all that matters is having the right kind of connection, everthing else perks, e
weapons, skills, are a complete and utter waste of time.
The MTU has to do with how many packets of data is being sent to the server default is 1500.. if you lower it too low, you wont be able to join a game, also you can experience ghosting
is there a way to not pull host? i pull host 95% of the time. i avg 45-50d/ and 4-5u/l. i only pay for a 30mb connection which is the lowest i can go unless i move to dsl. I an tell a huge difference between when im 4 bar with host and 4 bar with out.
mm that stinks if thats the lowest you can go, i mean you can stream movies in the back ground.. lower your packets, other than that, look for a different ISP
ya thats the cheapest i can get unless i go dsl. which i really dont want to. I just bought new cable modem and router the begining of the year. Does stream Netflix really make a differance though?
Stream Netflix with a couple decent size Torrents going, aswell as Upload a large file or two onto some websites (maybe a large video onto Youtube). Doing all that should kill your speed quite a bit I would imagine.
Giving yourself red bar does nothing, if you want to get on the good side of lag compensation you need to have a shitty ping.
zblood wrote:
Giving yourself red bar does nothing, if you want to get on the good side of lag compensation you need to have a shitty ping.
Yep. The sweet spot according to those who have been able to mess with it easily seems to be around 150-175ms ping. That puts you in the mid- to low-range of 3 bar, on the verge of 2 bar. So embarrassing for the developers that this is the case.
Reducing upload speed via QoS works for me with the most recent 'lag comp'/netcode updates. It used to not give me much of an improvement. Now it does. I've found a sweet spot. Sad that I have to do that for the game to be playable, but oh well I guess.
well I have been down graded for a couple of weeks now, and I can say That it has been a good decision!, I Have gotten host, but nooo where as much as I use to..
good on ya pal, i play with a moderate NAT, have done so for 6 months, it hinders me for partying up and joininng friends games but stops me pulling host and keeps me on the good side, im dreading the day someone reboots my modem and opens it again
hmmm how do you make your nat moderate? mine is always open
i have no idea, it went that way one day, i realised it was better so left it that way, haha,
it only needs my modem to reboot though and i will be back to having the crap
lol weird
Here's a good story. I had my upload speed adjusted while playing MW3, and decided to put in Black Ops. In doing so, I forgot to revert my QoS settings back to normal. While playing, I couldn't figure out why I couldn't kill anyone, and why enemies were sponging my bullets! Then I realized my error. Silly me.
It was a foreign concept, after playing MW3, that a worse connection actually produces sub-par experiences in the rest of the gaming world!
My connection at the moment is only 3.9 meg down and about 300kb up and i lag quite a bit. As fibre optic has just become available in my area i'm upgrading to 18meg down and 4 meg up. Hopefully having a slightly better but not over the top connection will help me out. Fingers crossed.