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ERROR_6_ Expert 1,271 posts since
Mar 23, 2012
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Aug 30, 2012 6:46 AM

Downgraded my internet And...~

Its been Alot Better!, my shots count more,  im on the good side of lag comp mostly... and I havent been host!!! ( from what I have seen) plus I save a couple bucks... Sweet!

  • alpacalips Newbie 46 posts since
    Aug 1, 2012
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    Aug 30, 2012 6:52 AM (in response to ERROR_6_)
    Re: Downgraded my internet And...~

    lol... what a terrible game this is.

  • phxs72 Master 3,641 posts since
    Feb 29, 2012
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    Aug 30, 2012 6:54 AM (in response to ERROR_6_)
    Re: Downgraded my internet And...~

    I'm happy for you.  You will have to let us know if it keeps putting you on the good side of lag.

  • featherman84 Apprentice 504 posts since
    Jun 21, 2011
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    Aug 30, 2012 7:49 AM (in response to ERROR_6_)
    Re: Downgraded my internet And...~

    Sad that you must tweak your connection to get good games.

    The devs still crying about everyone jiggling their connection, NOW IF THE GAME WOULD RUN PROPERLY NOBODY WOULD HAVE TO JIGGLE WITH THEIR CONNECTION, must say I keep my connection as it is, too much trouble to put it back for other games.

    For now mw3 is the only game that I got giving trouble with online playing, no wonder the mw message was "Game experience may change during online play"

    • alpacalips Newbie 46 posts since
      Aug 1, 2012
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      Aug 30, 2012 3:54 PM (in response to featherman84)
      Re: Downgraded my internet And...~

      featherman84 wrote:

       

      The devs still crying about everyone jiggling their connection, NOW IF THE GAME WOULD RUN PROPERLY NOBODY WOULD HAVE TO JIGGLE WITH THEIR CONNECTION

      lol... GET OUT OF HERE WITH YOUR SOUND LOGIC AND TRUTHINESS.

       

      BE GONE LOGIC MONSTER!  BE GONE!

       

      On an equally serious note, I'm like you.  I have messed with my connection settings to try and get rid of my good connection disadvantage but it's just not worth messing with all the time.  Game sucks, devs suck, whatever.

  • trialstardragon Master 10,325 posts since
    May 26, 2011
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    Aug 30, 2012 12:46 PM (in response to ERROR_6_)
    Re: Downgraded my internet And...~

    just one word.

     

    LOLROFLMAO

  • Moofda Novice 285 posts since
    Aug 14, 2012
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    Aug 30, 2012 12:56 PM (in response to ERROR_6_)
    Re: Downgraded my internet And...~

    Hmm, yeah let us know if it continues to be consistent for you on the better side of lag comp. Did you downgrade your upload speed mostly? Downgrading the DL speed should not have made your experiences better from what I understand.

  • SheSaidNo Apprentice 514 posts since
    Dec 5, 2011
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    Aug 30, 2012 4:08 PM (in response to ERROR_6_)
    Re: Downgraded my internet And...~

    What service and connection did you have before?  And what do you have now?

      • TinyLittleTimmy Newbie 43 posts since
        Mar 8, 2012
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        Sep 4, 2012 7:23 AM (in response to ERROR_6_)
        Re: Downgraded my internet And...~

        I have a dedicated gigabit router for my PS3 with OpenWRT installed. The game was unplayable at 50meg download speeds. My upload speed clocks at 3 meg but that is only on large files, and takes a while to build up to that, initially starting around 128k, for small packets during PS3 gaming no doubt upload stays at 128k. With such a high download speed it made me host most games, but with no consideration for my upload speed I would get zero hitmarkers, even when I prefire, such as I hear an enemy coming to a door so I unload my clip mid way through the doorway, while still firing the enemy can still pop out unload his clip and kill me but I get zero hitmarkers on both my screen and no bullets nor damage in the kill cam. Kd was 5/33, typical.

         

        I set my download speed to 500kbps max while in game with upload max of 10000kbps, played again, after 5 more agonizing 1 bullet deaths it finally bumped me from host, my KD went to 30/8 (note this only works in some lobbies since obviously I'm not the only one that knows lag compensation is the only factor that controls whether you live or die, skill is not a factor at all)

         

        The latest fixes have made the game ridulously unfair, all I can do is spawn aim up and hope to find a uav to shoot before a stray bullet kills me, but even the half the time uavs are now invisible, if I lay a sam turrent i can watch the missles go up hit and explode absolutely nothing, and even if the do show up when I ads with the stinger it won't buzz/lock, if I ads in the out on it 2 more times it finally gets detected, but by then it is already zooming off. The same for kills, I must chase the enemy for like 10-30 seconds, wait for him to stand still, then empty a full clip into his back, but often then, after the 1st hit marker he just turns around and kills me anyway, if I push up against his back and knife, It misses 2-3 times, he again hears the knife turns around and kills me, completely unacceptable.

         

        Lag compensation should be removed from the game, instead it should force everybodies upload & dowload speeds to be exactly the same, and stop screwing around with timestamps and hit detection, it is the only way to make the game fair.

  • wridtrvlr Master 2,786 posts since
    Jan 27, 2012
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    Sep 4, 2012 6:35 AM (in response to ERROR_6_)
    Re: Downgraded my internet And...~

    If they set a minimum Up speed in order to be able to play this game, we would not be having these issues.

    • TinyLittleTimmy Newbie 43 posts since
      Mar 8, 2012
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      Sep 4, 2012 7:47 AM (in response to wridtrvlr)
      Re: Downgraded my internet And...~

      the PS3 gives an error on the internet test connection screen if your upload speed is considerably faster than your download speed but it still lets you play that way, with an upload speed of 2meg and a download speed of 0.5 you get no less than 5 times better hit detection than most other players and it will be directly reflect by your KD as it increases some 10 fold even when you get 'strict', but if you wait for a game to start, get 'nat type open' the bump up your upload and bump way down your download you essentially enter GOD mode. In the old days players got banned for 'lag switching' for even a split second but today lag compensation praises them for cheating the whole game non-stop. I also noticed messing with the MTU to 576 will bump most if not all orher players from the match when host, with a good connection you get host nearly every single game, if you do it while still in the lobby screen the match begins for you but nobody else, they just sit in the lobby 'says waiting' you can run around lay the bomb capture etc, then says team forfeits, gives you first place, and it puts you back in the lobby, only takes 30 secs total so nobody even realizes that's way it takes so long to join the game sometimes in lobby, and why we get bumped from games, everything about this game is a lie, all that matters is having the right kind of connection, everthing else perks, e

      weapons, skills, are a complete and utter waste of time.

  • undzis Apprentice 526 posts since
    Aug 4, 2011
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    Sep 4, 2012 12:36 PM (in response to ERROR_6_)
    Re: Downgraded my internet And...~

    is there a way to not pull host? i pull host 95% of the time. i avg 45-50d/ and 4-5u/l.  i only pay for a 30mb connection which is the lowest i can go unless i move to dsl.  I an tell a huge difference between when im 4 bar with host and 4 bar with out.

  • zblood Newbie 2 posts since
    Sep 22, 2011
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    Sep 5, 2012 4:29 PM (in response to ERROR_6_)
    Re: Downgraded my internet And...~

    Giving yourself red bar does nothing, if you want to get on the good side of lag compensation you need to have a shitty ping.

    • bicranium Novice 145 posts since
      Aug 15, 2011
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      Sep 6, 2012 9:16 AM (in response to zblood)
      Re: Downgraded my internet And...~

      zblood wrote:

       

      Giving yourself red bar does nothing, if you want to get on the good side of lag compensation you need to have a shitty ping.

      Yep.  The sweet spot according to those who have been able to mess with it easily seems to be around 150-175ms ping.  That puts you in the mid- to low-range of 3 bar, on the verge of 2 bar.  So embarrassing for the developers that this is the case.

  • JBurn244 Apprentice 398 posts since
    Feb 2, 2012
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    Sep 11, 2012 8:20 AM (in response to ERROR_6_)
    Re: Downgraded my internet And...~

    Reducing upload speed via QoS works for me with the most recent 'lag comp'/netcode updates. It used to not give me much of an improvement. Now it does. I've found a sweet spot. Sad that I have to do that for the game to be playable, but oh well I guess.

  • sicklysoup Novice 134 posts since
    Jun 10, 2012
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    Sep 11, 2012 8:53 AM (in response to ERROR_6_)
    Re: Downgraded my internet And...~

    good on ya pal, i play with a moderate NAT, have done so for  6 months,  it hinders me for partying up and joininng friends games but stops me pulling host and keeps me on the good side, im dreading the day someone reboots my modem and opens it again

  • JBurn244 Apprentice 398 posts since
    Feb 2, 2012
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    Sep 11, 2012 9:11 AM (in response to ERROR_6_)
    Re: Downgraded my internet And...~

    Here's a good story. I had my upload speed adjusted while playing MW3, and decided to put in Black Ops. In doing so, I forgot to revert my QoS settings back to normal. While playing, I couldn't figure out why I couldn't kill anyone, and why enemies were sponging my bullets! Then I realized my error. Silly me. It was a foreign concept, after playing MW3, that a worse connection actually produces sub-par experiences in the rest of the gaming world!

  • Pirez Novice 52 posts since
    Nov 4, 2011
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    Sep 11, 2012 9:30 AM (in response to ERROR_6_)
    Re: Downgraded my internet And...~

    My connection at the moment is only 3.9 meg down and about 300kb up and i lag quite a bit. As fibre optic has just become available in my area i'm upgrading to 18meg down and 4 meg up. Hopefully having a slightly better but not over the top connection will help me out. Fingers crossed.

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