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ive always said taking stopping power out was a mistake thats why we have so many posts moaning about ghost/assassin.

just look back at previous games they all had stealth perks like uav jammer, camouflage and coldblooded no one ever complained about them because it took some skill and tactic's to flank the other team and get the drop on the to get the kill

Short answer: No.

Long Answer: NNNNoooooooooooooooooooooo.

No, nor should Juggernaut

Yes you need it in the ******* game man, im sick and tired of being killed from little ******* hiding in their corners with their maybe 3 or 4 overpowered guns in the game, with assasssin blind eye! Why?! Why take out the perk that balenced in the game, the ying to the yang. You need stopping power to counter the ghost/coldblooded/assasin bullshit. Those ******* perks and the underpowered guns and the **** hit detection and crap lag compensation of mw3 and black ops. Its so boring, i could kick ass on cod 4 and WAW and mw2 cus nobody used that useless **** cus stopping power was the best. Its what made call of duty what is was. You could run around the map and find people. Grow a pair and move around. Call of duty 4, the best 1st person shooter ive ever played, but now they devs are kissing the idiot ****** ass fans asses, who complain about everything cus they suck **** and get killed cus of my awesome fuckin reflexes, that me being better at the game then you, i should be able to kick ass, thats what call of duty is supposed to be, you get those high KD games, those sick killstreaks, but you cant anymore cus nobody was on the minimap, the game basic game mecanics of mw3 suck there is no flow to the game anymore. Im done with call of duty, if this next game sucks (BO2), online wise (cus you only play SP on recruit for the story, then veteran for the intel then achievements) **** you activision, probably made the worst decision of your lifes March 1, 2010, when you fired the best guys you had making your game, they people who focused on the fun of the game, the people who made it simple for you to figure out how everything worked and flowed. Now the games suck and only please the noobs who camp for killstreaks. If you censor this, i will post it on reddit/twitter/facebook on how you silence your long time fans, and your supporters, much like you did to your developpers. Call of duty is DEAD it sucks now its boring, and your **** new teams made it boring. I cant wait for Respawn Entertainment's game to come out and completly drive you guys bankrupt because you completly suck.

**** you very much

I'm laughing at all of the posts about "balance". The very nature of perks in a game cause imbalances, or at least, balance based on chance (which isn't really balance).

Perks like Juggernaut and Stopping Power are much more intrusive because their effects are present in every gunfight. They make the game more random, more inconsistent, and thus make it both more frustrating and less balanced.

Besides, the rate at which people die in core is already too fast. Adding damage modifying perks would require a lot of additional scaling of the different weapons. Plus, Treyarch has already made an effort to only make perks modify the player (rather than the weapon), so Stopping Power would have to be an attachment.

Nuh!

As someone who used stopping power on every single one of my classes in previous games, I say no.  It changes the game in that the same guns are not of equal strength. The rapid fire makes more sense because you get more power in a shorter amount of time for the same gun, but you lose accuracy in the process. Also it frees you up to use other perks and explore different combos as it did for me. Don't get me wrong, the M16 with stopping power was wicked but I now think the guns should have the same power for everyone across the board.

Ghost is a legitimate counter to killstreaks, and while it was too poweful in Black Ops, now that it has been split up, I am happy with it, and you guys should be as well. Negatives to bringing back stopping power:

1) It does not counter anything

2) Even if it does solve the issue of ghost(Which isn't really an issue), it brings back the problem of stopping power.

3) It essentially removes all variety of perks-it would be the only one people would use. If everyone uses something, its just taking away from the variety.

4) It has no counter, except for Juggernaut, which screws over people who dont use either even more, since most people they end up against will have more health or stronger guns.

5) Even if it would have helped in Black Ops(Which it wouldn't have done), it does not help in Black Ops 2 with the Pick 10 system, which means that people can pick more than one perk in each category, so they could run both now.

6) Ghost gives players an element of surprise they might enjoy, want, or need. Stopping power means that all fire fights are over in less than 5 shots-boring and requires no skill.

Using Black Ops as an example, since this is the most recent Treyarch game, people complained about the Famas/Ghost class setup. Are you honestly saying that you would rather people have a Famas/Stopping Power setup than a Famas/Ghost setup? Really guys? REALLY?

If I was a noob I'd say stopping power comes back so my spy planes show everyone on the map lol

Why are we all even having this conversation?  The game's shipped, its in retailers already, you guys really think theyd throw in stopping power after all the gameplay vids?

Generally, in Modern Warfare 3 the time-to-kill was too quick; targets fell too fast because the bullet damage was so high. As a result, it was virtually impossible to get out of a scenario or situation in match that didn't suit you. For example, if you end up in a 3 v 1 gun fight at medium range, there's very little chance of you surviving that.

In Black Ops, the bullet damage was significantly reduced, and as a result, the time-to-kill much slower - almost too slow. It took a lot of bullets to put people down in Black Ops. The benefit of this, was that it allowed aggresive players that chance to retreat and avoid those sticky situations that didn't favor you.

Where does Black Ops 2 need to be? Somewhere in the middle, but more in line with Black Ops. First, force players to be accurate and on the mark if they want to earn a kill. At the same time, give aggressive players the abiity to get out of situations and scenarios that don't suit their needs.

That's what I would like to see.

I don't think there's any benefit of having a perk like Stopping Power in the game now. The reason why so many were crying for it to return, was less to do with how valuable the perk was, and more to do with forcing players to give up something valuable if they wanted to keep using the Ghost/Cold-Blooded perk. That sort of selection pressure no longer exists, because ghost has been radically changed.