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TheXraptor Novice 143 posts since
Jul 24, 2012

The Random Weapons Box: Why it needs changing.

Posted by TheXraptor on Jul 29, 2012 5:24 PM

Alright, I know what you're thinking: "HUURR, NEW GAI, RAPTUR, DAT WEAPON BOX IZ FINE, I GETS MAH RAY GUHN ERRY TIME I UZE ITS!".

 

First, my old account couldn't post anything at all on the forums, it was broken. I had to start a new one.

 

Second, here is my reasoning behind changing the box:

 

Me and three randoms load into a match of Kino Der Toten. The first few rounds go by smoothly, I milk as many points out of my zombies as possible, collect any max ammos I can, and in general, just get things started. Then, everything changes.

 

At this point, I have around 5000 points and an M14 in the bank. The first door is opened, and directly in front of us lies a box. A glowing box with question marks on the lid. I have 5000 points and want to spend narry a penny on the box, and would rather move on to the MP40 room, which is much more certain to reward me with a good gun. However, my 3 teammates are different. They would rather blow every damn dime in their possession on that box. Over and over, I hear the mystery box jingle. About 2 minutes later, my teammates are all broke, and have nothing to show for it but a CZ75, an HS10, and an AUG. Sure, an AUG is nice, but come on! That leaves me to open the door, which I REFUSE to do if I'm the richest specifically because I didn't blow all my money on the box. Another 2 minutes later, we see the game over screen. Yup, you made it to round 7, you guys are a bunch of champions.

 

And then there are lobbies where I get 12 year olds who would rather hit the box OVER and OVER again than buy Juggernog and a Bowie Knife. While the Bowie Knife is more for just raking in the points and saving ammo, Juggernog is CRUCIAL for survival past round......I don't know, 8 or 9? Their mentality is that if the zombies do not get to them, they will not die. However, about 9/10 of the time, the zombies will overrun them, regardless of their AUGs, Commandos, and Galils. Now more than likely these weapons will be replaced by their futuristic counter-parts in Black Ops II, however, this more than likely will not make a difference. Kids will still prostitute themselves for more box money, instead of buying the all important Juggernog and MP40/MPL/MP5K (depending on the map).

 

So here is what I propose: You can only use the box one time a round. Get a weak weapon? Too bad, go buy an MP5K and Juggernog, then hope that you can make it to the next round.

 

If it were up to me, I'd remove the box completely, and put the AUG, Commando, Galil, and other box weapons on the wall for higher prices. However, doing something like that would more than likely anger the community greatly, since the box has been here since the beginning (however, hitting the box on Nacht is far less stupid than hitting the box on a map like Ascension, where many doors need to be opened and Juggernog+the Sickle are necessary to get far.

 

 

P.S. Shangri-La and Moon are by far the worst zombies maps in the series. Give us some freedom. Stop shoving team work down my throat. If I want to work with my teammates, I will. If I want to run trains and do everything at my own pace, I will.

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  • Xxace789xX Apprentice 480 posts since
    Mar 24, 2012
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    I feel that the box needs to either be removed and place the weapons on the walls for example: Ray gun at 6000 points and 10000 to refill PaP ammo, make the box 3000 points, but remove the rocket launchers, pistols, and other bad weaponsand move them to the wall, or place a 2 try limit per person per round so people won't open the box dry many times for a wonder weapon.

  • T-boss Expert 1,647 posts since
    May 30, 2012
    Currently Being Moderated

    i definitly agree with no forcing teamwork. ruined moon, i hated shangri-la by the 4rth time i played. team work is helpful when i happens, but with random players it will next to never happen, tring to force it will more quickly ruin the map than work.

     

    in moon i eather got the team to work together, fell early, or just let my team die so i can get juggernog.

     

    as for the box, it worked fine in der rise were it started at a set spot. that would fix your claimed problem. personly im one of the players smart anof to get after getting the important stuff, and i see tedybears as good, we can get fire sales now.

     

     

    offtopic but my worse game with the box was in BO verruckt, spend close to 30k on it and the best gun i got was famas, got china lake, 5 times, cossbows, rocketlanchers, snipers, 1 of the weaker SMGs, the pistol ect.

     

    second worse was at round 30 and i was hitting it just to get it to move anywere cause it was in the power room on kino. i knew if we went down the wall guns wouldnt work on anyone without anof money to upgrade. i was annoyed cause i was getting the really good guns when i didnt need them.

     

    also i hate the people who avoid opining doors when they have by far the most money. i usualy refuse to open doors for them caus of there money, when i have the most i usually open them(only saying no so i can open the more expesnive door behind it, and tell whoever that is what i was going to do.)

  • Bloodraye19 Apprentice 590 posts since
    Jul 26, 2012
    Currently Being Moderated

    I respect your opinion and i just want you to know that I will pray for your lost soul.

     

    just kidding, but anyway. the problem is basically parents going out and buying their kids **** they shouldnt even own

     

    but still ALOT of people would be pissed off if they removed the random box. not to mention it would make the game way too easy if you could just buy good weapons off the box. and only able to buy one weapon a round? that'd probably piss off more people.

     

    if treyarch removes the box that would be stupid as hell. the box is something that no other zombie game will ever have

  • T-boss Expert 1,647 posts since
    May 30, 2012
    Currently Being Moderated

    societies full of morons.(< since the moderator will take taht out, society is full op people with below avridge intelligence) its a fact of life. but keep this in mine. some people just want to have fun, i had fun in rounds were i only made it to 10. but in rounds were everyones good i usualy have fun making it to high 20s and sometimes 30s.

     

    dont remove the box.

     

    only real fix for no morons is fine some overly complex stratigy game. most arnt fun for most people but u also will fine alot less dumb people.

     

    if the people are dume, screw the high rounds and play for fun. otherwise go for high rounds.

     

    also i usually tell the other person the priorities if 1 other guy is doing it. then actualy do the priorities.

     

    hope they dont remove teh box.

  • Bloodraye19 Apprentice 590 posts since
    Jul 26, 2012
    Currently Being Moderated

    true. I used to play zombies a lot online, but only a few people really did that when i play. I know when i used to play with my friends online we were all ass holes to each other and would always use the box when one of us needed it, but we only do that when we were messing around and those were private matches

     

    i don't really use the box in WaW maps that much. I know in Der Riese i buy and PaP the MG42 (i think thats its name) and get over 400 bullets with it, i also buy and PaP the trench gun.

     

    but still, i don't think it would be right to set restrictions on it. I mainly use it on BO maps, but a lot of times i get **** like the crossbow and china lake, and other weapons that don't work as primary weapons

  • MostSanePsycho Calculating status... 16 posts since
    Jul 28, 2012
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    Play with your friends and not these random people who most of the time don't even use a mic.  We have rules setup within my group.

     

    We buy doors to get to the box.  We don't buy wall weapons unless it is strategically valuable at the time, like running a train near a wall weapon, or not getting any max ammos in the early rounds.  Once we get to the box we only hit it once, a second hit is allowed if you get a crap weapon like the LAW, but you still pick it up to hit faster.  No more box hits are allowed until all doors worth buying have been opened.  No PAP's are allowed until you have Juggs.

     

    If you can't make it to the end of round 4 with just the pistol, you're not making efficient use of your pistol and knife, and thus are being inefficient at building points.

     

    I've ended up eating grenades in almost every random group I've joined because they've all went down before we left the starting room.  I'll kill all the remaining zombies but one, then kill him with a nade I hold just to prove my point.  Then I quit lobby and wait for my friends to sign on while I play a different game.

  • Thor4more Calculating status... 1 posts since
    Jul 25, 2012
    Currently Being Moderated

    If it were up to me, I'd remove the box completely, and.....

    Read what you write or atleast remember the BS you spew out!!!!

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