Recon or recon drone counters it. When entire teams stop spamming UAVs, i will cut down my Assassin use. I woukld agree if they added the Blackbird as a compromise.

I agree. Whenever I prestige and don't have assassin until level 27 it feels like I'm playing on hard difficulty. When I get assassin then its easy mode. About a month ago, 497 total player's custom classes on ps3 were sampled and this is the percentage of perks that were used.

33% Quickdraw

9% Blast Shield

18% Hardline

33% Assassin

4% Overkill

Surprise? This is EXACTLY what I would of expected. Quickdraw is used alot but a I find that strafing with stalker replaces its use. Blast Shield is useless because explosives are weak anyway and doesn't protect you as much as it should. Hardline is somewhat useful but only for putting it in somewhere with specialist. Overkill is a waste of a perk, not much to say about that.

Assassin is good, because unlike blast shield, it gives you COMPLETE protection against most of what it protects against. The rivaling perks just don't stack up against it. There is also a lack of counters for assassin, the only two counters are the recon drone and the recon perk. First of all, both of these are rare to come across, and second, these are both partially countered by the other stealth perks the are stackable with assassin, blind eye and dead silence. BO's ghost at least had better counters such as the blackbird and dogs with rendered ghost useless.

IW tried to balance assassin by seperating it with blind eye, but what they don't realise is, that the rivaling perks are also much weaker then in previous games. In other games, assassin type perks had to compete with other powerful perks like Stopping power, Lightweight, Danger close, Juggernaut, and so forth. Now, with assassin having patheically weak rivals like blast shield and overkill, its free to reign supreme. And assassin is still stackable with blind eye, where the only other useful perk in tier 1 besides blind eye is slight of hand.

So basically, yes, assassin is OP. While the other perks just give you a bosst, assassin defines your gameplay.

I personally think that Assassin counters a counter UAV (say that 10x fast) makes no sense.

Not being visible to a UAV makes perfect sense (as a stealth)

Still being able to see the UAV when a CUAV is up has nothing to do with being stealth*.

The things I think do not make sense about assassin are:

- EMP has no effect on their view

- They can still use the HUD when a CUAV is up

Again, neither of these has anything to do with being stealthy (*I guess it is assumed that the stealth has equipment to counter the counter UAV - say that 10x fast - but vs an EMP makes no sense at all)

I am not saying it is overpowered... I am just saying.

Assassin is the perfect perk for hit and vanish R&G my 3 perks which never change are recon-pro, assassin and steady aim (whether i'm sniping, using an LMG or running with a SMG). Mix them with porti radar and unsilenced weapons and you can then controll the flow of a map.

Is assassin OP? in a word no it doesn't turn you invisible (unless the enemy has become over reliant on the mini-map) it's just 1 of a set of three perks that if combined turn you into a complete ghost (blind eye,assassin and dead silence) but all playstyles are catered for with the perks in place.

When theres perks that'll make you faster, have to kill way less for streak rewards and increase the distance someones tag pops up on the screen it's kinda hard to see how anyone who hasn't become to reliant on info from the mini-map can call assassin OP.

MW3 seems to have become overloaded with people who as long as they use something it's cool but if someone else uses something different it's a noob thing or OP.

Not everyone rolls the same way and some of us see the value of being able to vanish off the map and reappear when we need to while we chug our ass all over the place putting out fires and trying our best to give the team a fighting chance of pulling out a win. Some may hide out ADS in a dark corner with assassin but i've seen just as many hiders using QD or blast sheild.

Saying come on won't stop people from using assassin. Hint assassin has never killed anyone. It's only OP if you need said crap above to get kills. I do hate all that crap forcing us to use assassin though.

If it was up to me uavs would be easier to spot, support streaks would take skill to get, the PR won't be in the game and marksman would be altered to scout pro from blops, now it's a talentless "wallhack" lighting up people like christmas trees, getting kills long range should be about skill same with spotting someone, half my assassin classes are do to this perk. As long as all that crap isn't balanced right, assassin is just fine (especially in a specialist combo). Uavs, Cuavs and especially the Auav can be more effective when they take some skill to get.

You basically need assassin to move around as being on the radar is a given.

I think at least a  thermal sight should bring assassin players up too

As stated above, I think the problem with Assassin is not assassin itself, but people who think :"Yay a UAV is up!" and spend a bit too much time looking at the HUD and an assassin user walks up to them and slaps them in the face.

Think about this:  If killing an assassin user was not a prblem before a UAV went up... why did they become an issue when a UAV went up?  Yes you cannot see them with marksman, a radar, or HB sensor... but you know this, so you used your eyes... until a UAV was put up in the air...

Play more hardcore (where there is no HUD and half the time a UAV goes a CUAV goes up to counter it)  and you will see how much of a crutch the HUD is, and how useless assassin can be.

(Not OP due to spawns and Killcam)

It boils down to this: for my playing style the benefits of assassin out weighs the benefits of Quick Draw or Hardline. I use the Stalker Pro Perk  so I can move faster while ADS so Quick Draw isn't as important. As far as using Hardline you may or may not benefit much from your Kill Streak Rewards therefore for me Assassin helps me stay alive longer and get more kills. The people that mostly Run and Gun probably rather have Quick Draw or Hardline.

So, a perk that makes someone hard to see with Killstreak Rewards and immune to EMP - but but still visible with your own two eyes on the screen - is overpowered?  You will never convince me of this. This is NOTHING like stopping power, which gave increased damage.

Getting bored of these Lag threads and Overpowered this and that threads. There's 2 Assassin OP threads on here at moment.

Everyone knows the game lags so no need to keep bringing it up everyday, and as for the overpowered threads their getting boring aswell now. It's only a game. supposed to play it for fun.

I use Blast Shield and Quickdraw in my classes till Assassin is available, (and I've got them to Pro), then I stick Assassin on most of my classes, and I usually have a class with Blind Eye and Assassin to shoot down air support.

Some things may be overpowered in this game so what, I won't stop using them to please everyone, and I don't expect other people to stop using anything they want to either.