do you want me to upload a video of me sniping? (which ive never done in my life), i have some no scopes in there too. some lets say quick scopes (which arent that quick).

"The acr abuses aim assist just like the sniper rifles" ---> the acr doesnt kill in 1 shot

yes the game isnt realistic

i do not aprove the "ohh cmon i shot that guy in the face and he turned around and no scoped me"

i think quick scoping is wrong. but this is just my opinion, and everyone who says it takes skill, come on rly?

There are a lot of people out there who will never accept that they were beaten by a sniper rifle in CQC and to a certain extent they make a valid point.  Hitting a pop-shot with a sniper rifle at very close range, particularly when someone walks right into the middle of your screen, is not especially hard if your timing is down. I think it's that sort of thing the gets on people's nerves and fuels the hatred for the quickscoping sniper.  If that happens to you a lot when you are playing, then I can imagine it could be very frustrating, especially if you don't really understand how the guy is managing to pull it off.

There is also the fact that so many "quickscopers" go negative in games and don't play the objective.  Then there is the misguided believe the aim-assist magically corrects your aim when you are off target and gives you the kill anyway, which If you think about it, doesn't even make sense - how could all these quickscopers go negative if this aim-assist glitch was real and gave them kills even if they missed?  That's nonsense.

I've heard a lot of "I put half a clip into this guy and he just turned and one-shotted me"... yeah that sucks, but on the other side of the coin, you can shoot someone square in the chest with a sniper, get a hit marker and be sprayed down before you even have time to chamber the next round... it's swings and roundabouts really

In all honesty, as someone who plays equally as a sniper and a reg-gunner, the ARs and SMGs are overall easier to use, no question, in my experience. 

show me in the manual where they explain anything about quickscoping?   i'll wait

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This has been, and always be my argument against quickscoping. It is not really against quickscoping, but rather quickdraw on snipers.

If someone sees me 1st and.or outplays me, I do not care if they lined up their shot, hard-scoped, quick-scoped,drag-scoped, <insert made up term here>-scope or whatever. The problem is, when I have the jump on someone and it is gonna take me 3 bullets to kill them. No matter what my accuracy was, I have a good chance to lose the gun fight against a quickdraw sniper at any distance on the map (see scenario below)

The bottom line

1 - This would not happen (as much) if quickdraw had no effect on snipers (like in BO)

2 - IW puts garbage in their games where you can win the gun fight (or be winning the game), and still lose:

- DMH

- Final Stand

- Martydom

- Quickdraw/SOH on snipers

- Nukes/MOABs

- etc...

For me, it has absolutely nothing to do with whether I can do it or not (I am not great at it, but sometimes I do run with a sniper, and most of the time I go positive both "hard" and "quick" scoping.  But I can guarantee you this: When I am losing the gun fight and I quickscope someone, I almost always apologize after the match because I call BS on myself.

Scenario:

Person A uses an AR/SMG/LMG or whatever

Person B uses a sniper, and we will assume very good at using it (aiming etc..)

Both using high sensitivity, and both using Quickdraw (or old SOH)

Person A sees person B and starts to shoot:

- 1st bullet that hits makes the sniper realize he is being hit

- 2nd bullet that hits seriously damages person B, and person draws his weapon

- the 3rd shot is gonna finish him off...

Black Ops: the 3rd bullet will more often hit the sniper before he gets his weapon up and aimed right

MW2/MW3: because quickdraw is active on sniper rifles, the sniper has a good chance to win the gun fight (at any range) because he can raise his OHK weapon

Is their skill involved: yes

is it just aim assist: of course not

is it realistic: who cares it is a game

is it fair: HELL NO

That is the problem with Quickdraw on a sniper rifle.  We all know IW devs love quickscoping; so they make it so the game mechanics allow one to do it, not matter how good (or bad) one is at the game*. Yes a lot of people have bad arguments why they hate it, but to assume that all the complainers complain because "they cannot do it" is a little too broad.

*of course, the bad people will miss more often, but that is hardly the point.

EDIT: I will never argue the fact though, that it is fun. But I only feel good when I know I did not BS my kill by winning a gun fight I should have lost.  In the scenario above, if person B was using an AR, they would have been dead in any game (barring lag)

Any weapon that lets you spam L1-R1 and get four OHKs, I tried it four times and each time got a OHK is cheap . Chuck on the fact how well the ghillie suit can hide you and the fact that you can spam 2 buttons and let what ever it is do the rest makes the QS more than a little cheap.

The real reason why people hate quickscoping is because people rage whenever something happens they didn't expect and was against their favor.

You see a sniper running and is close to you, and you think in your head, "haha an easy kill". Then all of sudden he kills you when you thought you were safe from him and surely kill him first. Then your thinking "WTF". Then rage comes.

The same concept applies to other things. Say someone is using a shotgun with range. You are at a distance that you think you have a sure and easy kill. Then he kills you when you were sure he couldn't. Rage follows.

Or when someone is using assassin and hiding in the corner. UAV is up and you are near certain no one is there. Then you get killed by soemone you were sure wasn't there. Once again, rage follows.

QS doesn't overly bother me as i get rarely killed by one as i play HC and there are no people skilled or game enough to QS in HC. QS know inside their heart that QS is not the intended way for a sniper rifle to be used, and then always use the same "A,B or C isn't real life either" arguement.

I'm not bothered by it, but it does bother me when they start saying hardscope..

Scoping fast takes excellent aim, great positioning and a great connection. Without any you will get more hitmarkers than not and you will die a lot head on.

The pop-shot (aka qs) is very annoying and will be rebalanced in blops2 again no doubt, as long as they don't stop fast sniping (like now in black ops). They need to actually fire cap the 50 cal that's my main issues, as someone just spamming this thing is incredibly annoying.

I believe that people who do quickscoping are very skilled, ive tried to quickscope but always end up missing or just getting a lucky kill. someone teach me to quickscope please ?