Oct 6, 2011 11:33 AM
Why you can`t remove quickscoping
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You see, theres a whole communtiy of quickscopers who play competitively. There are thousands of them. They use youtube as rankings channels and challenge each other.
Here are some of their rankings channels:
http://http://www.youtube.com/user/Top10ClansEU
http://www.youtube.com/user/TopPs3SnipersNa
So you see, if you remove quickscoping you ruin a community that find their own way of fun within the game.
People just whine over everything, Quickscoping (god forbid people die from it, those kids barely go positive most of the time), drop shotting (easily counterable), guns that aren't actually OP (although some are) etc etc.
Yey, another "remove quickscoping" thread. It seems that you only want to "ruin" the quickscoping community because they are good at sniping and you aren't. You don't have to be a quickscoper to be good at sniping. Personally the GP that quickscopes are worse than those that "hardscope" or snipe. The quickscoping community had to suffer in BO and eventually 3arc started unpatching the snipers to balance the game bit by bit. I don't think IW would try to screw over the Quickscopers or even the snipers like in BO.
They aren't good at sniping, they use the aim assist as an exploit, they suck at sniping
Aim assist helps me out more when Im camping in a building and hardscoping with Scout Pro. Aim assist helps me when Im using an AK47 or Enfield. Aim assist helps me out when Im hip firing with an SMG or camping with an LMG...Oh but its only an exploit when Im using a sniper rifle at close range..oh okay..that doesnt sound dumb or anything..nope.
Scope in > Aim assist follows target > Kill
You can do that with anything else.
Can you even read the title?
My problem isn't with QS'ing per se, it's with all the assclowns that only play for montages & killcams -- which would be fine if they stuck to FFA, but they don't. QS'ing has no place in objective gametypes because 99% of QS'ers ignore the **** out of the objectives & go hopelessly negative.
Yeah, nice montage -- I enjoyed seeing "recovered from a deathstreak" every 10 seconds...
That's my main problem with QSing.
S&D was completely ruined in MW2 by QSers. 80% of the people playing were QSing and only there to try and get trick shots or whatever.
If this game is the same in S&D i'll be very peed off.
Those "thousands" of people trying to get noticed by the "quickscoping community" are seriously pissing off the MILLIONS of us who don't give a rats ass about quickscoping (for a multitude of reasons) and would rather it be gone. Why CoD seems to be pandering to the whining minority of prepubescent mini-grizz wannabes that make up the "quickscoping community" is beyond me.
Personally.... If they completely took sniper rifles out of the game it wouldn't bother me one bit.
I agree with this and I used to QS back in the cod2 & cod4 days. The problem with it now is that it's too easy to do (yet the vast majority of them are god awful at it) & they're all obsessed w/ YT and montages. When I did it it was just another way to play the game -- if I was playing HQ, I wasn't trying to get montage clips, I was trying to cap the HQ.
My biggest problem with QS'ers is how so many of them think QS'ing ability is the only gauge of a good player when in reality, it's probably the last thing I'd use to gauge a good player.
Funny how they play private match only isn`t it? So how do they piss you off? Don`t put the blame on these real Quickscopers. You`re thinking of **** trickshotters and montage makers
Real Quickscopers? They are all noobs regards
Really yh? They play competitively and don`t piss anyone off and play private match only. I don`t see a problem with them and because of **** trick shotters and montage makers who play online, this community gets affected by the others fault even though they don`t cause problems and annoy people
Yeah really, they have destroyed the sniper class, they should go quickscope with a pistol and leave the real sniping to the pro's
just wanna say, im not a quikscoper but if i use a sniper an run into trouble i quikscope, an afew ma mates take quikscoping to heart, like accordin to them im no good at cod, but most of them would own you with any weapon and the best quikscopers are the ones that dont run an do it close range but play it long range qs.
Funny how they play private match only isn`t it? So how do they piss you off? Don`t blame these eal Quickscopers because of **** trickshotters and montage makers
This is a completely ignorant post. A lot of people enjoy sniping. How about jerks like you stop trying to dictate how people play. Hitler was a dictator, no one liked Hitler.
Technically a lot of people liked Hitler -- that's why the followed him. Just saying..
I could almost equate them to Hitler. They are arrogant, sedistic, deceitful, hateful, envious. Sounds pretty Satanic to me.
just give the quickscopers an own playlist, it's not very hard really...
They wouldn't play it. Even quickscopers hate quickscopers. They get a thrill out of pissing people off by getting one-hit-insta-kills with their easy button. That's why they do it in the first place.
This.
It's not as 'easy' as you think. Which is why not everyone can quickscope.
If I play a run-and-gun style and have to land 3 or more shots on target with my AR or SMG... Someone else shouldn't be able to play run-and-gun with a weapon that they only have to land one shot to get a kill. Shotguns have no range so they have to be used differently but a sniper rifle can do it's damage from anywhere on the map.
How about this....
If you run and gun with a sniper rifle you can have your one-hit-kill BUT if I land my first bullet on target with my AR you die instantly and I get the kill. It would be fair because the quicker person with better accuracy will win the day every time. Do you think people would "quickscope" with that rule in place? No.... Me either.
Well your obviously a bad player if you can`t take out a quickscoper with a bolt-action while you`re using an automatic, and shot guns are made for close range so don`t say you can`t take out quickscopers up close either
If its so easy then post a video of you going really positive. Want some proof as to why you folk dont make any sense? Because half of you are saying that quickscoping is "the easy button" and "an exploit" but the other half of you are saying that "quickscopers get bad KDRs" and "Quickscopers never finish positive" ...but the truth is that none of you have any grounds to your complaints. Its just worthless, senseless bitching.
I've asked on 2 different threads if you people hate Tomahawks aswell? They're more affective than quickscoping in almost every way aside long distance accuracy but quickscoping is merely a close range debate therefore Tomahawks are just as deadly if not moreso.
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I've asked on 2 different threads if you people hate Tomahawks aswell? They're more affective than quickscoping in almost every way aside long distance accuracy but quickscoping is merely a close range debate therefore Tomahawks are just as deadly if not moreso.
You really don't understand balance.
The reason that quickscoping is unbalanced is because it makes snipers good at close range AND long range. Tomahawks are only good at close range, which is the balancing factor.
@bran, see he's used to seeing the montages "across the map while taking a dump" tomahawk shots and apparently thinks they have good long range. I guess, what he said didnt make any sense. Equating tomahawks and Sniper Rifles.
I just hate when you play search and destory and 75% of your team are snipers, and thier always the last people to be alive they try to get a epic kill but, 90% of the time they fail! As of it being a OP, I'm not sure because, it was one of those, "Wow I just got quickscoped, really?!", Little kid on mic and poeple in game, "OOOOOOOOOO". Just annoying at times. ![]()
Good for then to find a new playing style.
some really great skillfull QUICKSCOPING in those videos at the top of this page and i have no reason to moan about it at all... but that was on black ops where it takes skill to Q/S but on MW2 + 3 its a FuI<ing joke... check this thread out on MW3 and tell me if you think its going to take skill to pull this off ?
Good news -- OSKs wont be that common when the game launches because of lag. Remember XP used LAN so there was zero latency issues.
It's almost as if you never played MW2. Plenty of OSK, what makes this game extra laggy all of a sudden?
I didn't say the game was going to be extra laggy, I said there wasn't lag at XP (and therefore EVERY video from it showed no lag) but there will be lag when playing online because it uses P2P hosting. Also, MW2 had Stopping Power & MW3 doesn't. Furthermore, nearly every QS'er who played MW2 complained about the hitmarkers -- so much so that YT famous QS'ers like MoodieSwede, Small Beans & everyone at OpTic started a petition to make the sniper rifles automatic OSKs from the waste up. Now, couple that last bit of information w/ THIS 402 tweet, and I really don't see QS'ing as much of a problem in MW3.
Plus, I think 402 hit the nail on the head with THIS tweet, because I've seen a lot of QS'ers in my 5 years of playing cod -- I think I've seen maybe 5 total I considered good at it. Maybe 0.001% of my MW2 deaths came at the hand of a QS'er, I imagine MW3 will be the same. I'm more concerned about the assclowns being on my team when/if I'm playing solo & going overly negative w/o playing the objective -- THAT'S why I hate QS'ers so much.
I don't understand why people don't allow others to play with their own style.
I don't QS, but I don't see an issue with it. Easy kills, bro!
I think if QS'ers didn't play objective gametypes w/ the sole purpose of getting montage clips or final killcams for top 5 videos, people wouldn't care so much. My hatred for QS'ers doesn't stem from my inability to kill them, no it's quite the opposite -- I'm rarely if ever killed by a QS'er. My hatred comes from them being thrown on my team in Dom and going 3-28 w/ no caps because they spent the entire match trying to get a 360 cross-map no-scope.
That's understandable, and easily overlooked.
But that's also true for players using other weapons.
Call of Duty isn't the most tactical game.
its just like the people who go in with a pistol and tactical knife and marathon and lightweight, i know they have to get next to you but its one shot kills and quik kills t, plus they practice enuff on private match and then come out better, btw if you hate qs dont play the game and stick to black ops? or jus got to a different shooter, e.g a certain ps3 only title begining with r that is alien virus, or mayb a certain xbox title that is against aliens ont the 3rd game now aswell, theres plenty more aswell, go on them and you dont ave a problem with qs
MLCing is worse than any exploit in the series to me, Hope Scoping, OMA/DC. Plus there was a glitch in the beginning of MW2 that made it worse!
hate it in objective based games when theres friends on both teams an they jus qs online and moan if you kill 'em! and i never understood the thrill people would get on mw2 when they would qs with hacks the automatically killed you? jus fire up wards and say wow look u hacked it!!!
and tbf ypou cant take away qs cus i find it a challege and somethin different to actually kill the guy who thinks he is the best one and he end up with the most deaths, also hilarious if yu try qs and kill one of em
Infinity Wars knows people (mostly ********) like to quickscope. So if they take it out, less people will play (like in Black Ops).
Exactly. Loss of revenue is about the only reason. Even though we out number the Hope Scopers.
So put in a "Quick Scoping" lobby. Let the quick scope-tards go there instead of clogging the TDM lobbies with their 100 failed attempts to get a 360 no scope.
remember when 3arc was trying to get in the good graces of the MLG crowd and put in competition game mode? That turned out to be an abysmal failure. The initial removal of quickscoping in Black Ops was the route to go. The way they did it though wasn't great because actual snipers got screwed over. However, it is possible to remove quickscoping. Team Fortress 2 did it. No scoping is virtually non-existent and quickscopes only work if the enemy is partially damage.
I'm not saying to take the TF2 route but the fact is they did it, so we can as well.