That u used tubes says enough. Yet i think defensive players are getting more and more power by just be softies laying in corners. I play really offensive, not running like a moron, but i'll always keep running and adjusting position. Brings me good scores a lot of times... but if all on enemy team are laying in counters camping, you're kind a helpless.... they should do even more against it...

Adapting to the situation. You'll be able to turn the game completely around if you make a few changes, just like in sports.

You said it yourself, they were good because they were working in a team, 1 of them could not have pulled it off, you just can't trust randoms, it's better to just avoid team mates all together in TDM and think you are in a free for all but it's harder because they feed kills to the opponents, that is why I don't play solo anymore and don't lose actualy games anymore only when the host dashboards and disconnections.

It's all about being in a party even if you're 2 it will increase your odds greatly

No matter how you play, if you work as a team you will usually always win.

(still speaking about teams)

Defensive play always rules over offensive play (although if you are good and have a decent connection, offensive play will net better individual results).

Here in context:

Defensive play = area control, or map control (e.g. only working half the map) etc... this is very good because the enemy will always be in front of you.

Offensive play = aggression... basically looking for people (not running with your head cut off like a chicken).

Most people hate campers, and even people who play defensively... but I think it is because the average defensive player will be able to react better than the average offensive player (simply because the offensive player is usually running, while the defensive player is typically walking - often crouched - and watching the offensive players running around).

I am not really sure what the community expects... they typically hate having to look for people, but at the same time hate running into other offensive players and getting panic knifed or drop-shotted.  I suppose a good mix of both is desired.

When I play Dom, I am 100% defensive (sometimes to point of blatant camping when it makes sense to do that)

When I play KC (or TDM when I am so inclined) I play offensively (almost to the point of chicken-with-head-cut-ff)

I am not afraid to admit to both...

In these situations i tend to hold of fro engaging them where they want you. Yes it's frustrating but if more people held off then i'm sure at some point they would come out and come too you. Perhaps not when they're winning though which makes everything even more annoying  as you start losing more and more.

Good Topic.

If you are playing nearly every evening, you will find those teams quite often!

This "tactics" is really increasing in MW3. Some just call it "Camping" and "Noob-Gaming" - so I do.

Finally it needs some skill and discipline of the whole team of "Campers" to stay in their positions when the others

attack.

So, yes, it´s a tactics...regretfully.

On the other hand: It´s spoiling the game!

This kind of tactics is made to destroy the games - no matter if it´s TDM or Domination. It´s frustrating, boring and bothering.

It´s a childish tactics by playing an "action-game" without action...

I don´t mind if some players need to camp to succeed their stats - I just sweep them away - even more on my second attempts ;o)

In Domination this tactics is mostly losing the match - because the offensive players will capture more flags - and they are (if they know what thes do) able to defend pretty good if possible. Without camping!

Defensive or Offensive playing is a matter of skill. You can´t be a successful rusher, if you are unable to hit the opponents quickly and precisely.

Even more, when you do not use "Blind Eye", "Assassin", "Dead Silence", "Silencer", "Akimbo" and "Shotgun"... ;o)

Since weeks my frustration is increasing, cause nearly 95% of all my "Nemesis" using either "Blind Eye" or "Assassin" - or they are just camping, using shotguns or "Dead Silence"... sometimes i get fed up quickly when we meet one "Defensive" Team after each other!

It just sucks!

Sry, long answer...