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Currently Being ModeratedJun 25, 2012 8:57 AM (in response to The_Hunter18)Re: Looking for Tutor! PC player that can teach me how to survive the bunny-hopping douchebags on multiplayer!
Expect it, hip fire or use shotguns. If they are that close, melee sometimes:) I've caught a 5hit load of them in mid air

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Currently Being ModeratedJun 25, 2012 5:20 PM (in response to cheaterssuk)Re: Looking for Tutor! PC player that can teach me how to survive the bunny-hopping douchebags on multiplayer!
I know, but I need help with getting the first shots in before they can kill me, I'm lvl 61 and I got a K/D of .263.... HELP!
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Currently Being ModeratedJun 25, 2012 10:25 PM (in response to The_Hunter18)Re: Looking for Tutor! PC player that can teach me how to survive the bunny-hopping douchebags on multiplayer!
What can you say to this?
There is no magic pill; and actually no "bunny hopping" (hasn't been in COD since COD 1.3)
Some people will say always aim center mass; that way you have the same distance between prone, and jump.
I say always aim for the head; I know this game keeps getting easier and easier for the noobs; but I always have, and always will, AIM (unless startled) and no matter how bad they stretch the hit boxes aim will beat hip fire almost every time. (and yes I realize there are hax...er...um...perks to help the noob who can't/ wont aim; it's just not my style)
Learn to MOVE while engaged in battle: (evasive maneuvers) it's not like the movies; where every one is ducking in and out of cover (people are all over the map (looking for you) your keyboard should be as busy (if not busier) that you mouse. strafe left and right, jump for cover, hit the ground etc... (there is no shame in that. (I don't care what ANYONE has to say about it) what ever you have to do. (I knew a guy once who caused rage, by "leaning" Back and forth during battles)
And be aware of your surroundings: are you running in tunnel vision mode? or are you constantly checking your six? My rule of thumb is to drive my avatar, like I drive my car, I watch my rearview mirror as much as the front.
Are you listening? can you not hear the game? if you K/D is only .3 i think you have more to consider then Jump shooters.
Either way: You'll HAVE to learn to play (or rage quit); no amount of whining about it will change the way people play (and before any one goes there, no I am not a jump shooter; but I will if I have to)
like I said at the beginning: there is no magic pill; and not to sound harsh; but you will just have to L2P.
Keep at it: it feels good to aim at a jump shooter's head, kill them in mid air, and type "jump over that"

P.S. there are to many the_shadow's on steam; why don't you just add me: poisonpawn
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Currently Being ModeratedJun 26, 2012 1:09 PM (in response to PoisonPawn)Re: Looking for Tutor! PC player that can teach me how to survive the bunny-hopping douchebags on multiplayer!
Thanks for the tip, but I know perfectly well how to play. I average 5 kills a game, and can move pretty efficiently. The reason I'm asking for help is cause I tried everything, and it feels like people know something I don't...
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Currently Being ModeratedJun 26, 2012 10:56 PM (in response to The_Hunter18)Re: Looking for Tutor! PC player that can teach me how to survive the bunny-hopping douchebags on multiplayer!
The_Hunter18 wrote:
Thanks for the tip, but I know perfectly well how to play. I average 5 kills a game, and can move pretty efficiently. The reason I'm asking for help is cause I tried everything, and it feels like people know something I don't...
If that where true; you wouldn't have made this post. 5 kills a game? we all average 20-40 kills a game.
don't ask for advice if you really don't want it
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Currently Being ModeratedJun 27, 2012 8:46 AM (in response to PoisonPawn)Re: Looking for Tutor! PC player that can teach me how to survive the bunny-hopping douchebags on multiplayer!
The point of this is, 1irst, there's nothing wrong with gay... 2econd, develop ALL of your skills. Don't just rely on one thing you do good. It's like guitar playing in that regard... I am always looking for something I can't do well and developing that. If the game is capable of doing it, do it, and don't worry about those who call you names out of their frustration of not being able to compete.
Here is a good example of what Poison and I are talking about, start with the hip fire and transition to sites. It's a short clip, 3 kills, first is a spray, second is what I would call the opposite of a bunny hop, shoe string melee, and then the spray to site transition-
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Currently Being ModeratedJun 26, 2012 7:12 AM (in response to The_Hunter18)Re: Looking for Tutor! PC player that can teach me how to survive the bunny-hopping douchebags on multiplayer!
Solution: Get an overpowered gayspray-weapon and (if you still have problems by then) use Steady Aim.
(Sarcasm is intended. Well, actually it's the bitter truth about the skill level required to play this game.)
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Currently Being ModeratedJun 26, 2012 7:41 AM (in response to ArmsOfSorrow)Re: Looking for Tutor! PC player that can teach me how to survive the bunny-hopping douchebags on multiplayer!
Yep there are more "gayspray" weapons but we've always had 'em, PPSH and Tommy guns used to get a bit annoying after a while, won't mention the MP40 as that really needed a rapid fire attachment, lol.
Of course we also had the "noob cannon" MP44, which dosen't really come into "gayspray" catagory, after using a tommy or ppsh it felt like you we're running round with a ton of bricks!
Gimme my Kar98K anyday!
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Currently Being ModeratedJun 26, 2012 10:43 PM (in response to onefourseven)Re: Looking for Tutor! PC player that can teach me how to survive the bunny-hopping douchebags on multiplayer!
onefourseven wrote:
Yep there are more "gayspray" weapons but we've always had 'em, PPSH and Tommy guns used to get a bit annoying after a while, won't mention the MP40 as that really needed a rapid fire attachment, lol.
Of course we also had the "noob cannon" MP44, which dosen't really come into "gayspray" catagory, after using a tommy or ppsh it felt like you we're running round with a ton of bricks!
Gimme my Kar98K anyday!
lol Don't dis the MP44; just because you can't use it...lol I love the KAR98, but the MP44 was the best defense against the afore mentioned gaysprays; and a damned accurate rifle as well.
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Currently Being ModeratedJun 27, 2012 4:42 AM (in response to PoisonPawn)Re: Looking for Tutor! PC player that can teach me how to survive the bunny-hopping douchebags on multiplayer!
Just taking the micky a little, I prefer the term SMG & AR and the MP44 was a damn fine AR! - Report Abuse
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Currently Being ModeratedJun 26, 2012 9:22 AM (in response to The_Hunter18)Re: Looking for Tutor! PC player that can teach me how to survive the bunny-hopping douchebags on multiplayer!
No disrespect to my buddy Poison, he is a wise man. But hip fire is legit out to 50 feet or so. Here are some numbers. Let's use the P90 since you have that already.
Use a sub machine gun, like the P90. Hip fire it. The first shot is usually near the center. You can start hip fire and while you are moving to aim down site if necessary. Out past 50-60 feet, the hop makes no difference anyway.
Your reaction time is .16 to .2 seconds.
The time to kill for the P90 is .14 seconds.
BUT, the time it takes to raise your weapon is .8 seconds.
That "raise time" alone means you could be dead twice by the time you raise your weapon.
So... with a hip fire kill, with a SMG (sub machine gun) at best is about .3 seconds, but with aim down site it's more like 1.1 seconds, without Quick Draw. That means you can generally kill 3 times, almost 4 times, as fast with a hip fire at best, within it's usable distance, which is about the kill range of a good shotgun, that will get it done with one shot. It's all in the numbers.
I should have said to use a sub machine gun to begin with. You run faster and they raise faster. Add rapid fire to that and you can kill quicker, but your gun will have a little more recoil, which works against you at a distance. And of course you can increase the hip fire pattern with Steady Aim.
Also learning the maps and hot spots helps.
Oh, I would add that the assault rifles have a crappy hip fire pattern, avoid assault rifles.
BTW, if that is a n00b technique, then I am a n00b, but a damn wise one, with an excellent win/loss record

PS, if your K/D is bothering you, forget about K/D.
I derive my pleasure from:
1. Playing with a team, as a team
2. Getting the win
I don't care about K/D. I'll die 100 times if it will secure the win. Dying is free:) My K/D is a little over 1 to 1 because I throw myself on the objective, and we don't play TDM or Kill Confirmed usually, in fact that's boring to me

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Currently Being ModeratedJun 26, 2012 10:57 PM (in response to cheaterssuk)Re: Looking for Tutor! PC player that can teach me how to survive the bunny-hopping douchebags on multiplayer!
don't get me wrong: I shoot and sight at the same time.
So while my initial spay might help out, by the time I'm done, I have increased my accuracy by that much.
And like I said it's a different story when I'm startled toe to toe.
But I kill people all day long from 1000 ft. (scale) because they don't sight in.
(JUst ask NIN1...lol)
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Currently Being ModeratedJun 27, 2012 5:36 AM (in response to cheaterssuk)Re: Looking for Tutor! PC player that can teach me how to survive the bunny-hopping douchebags on multiplayer!
Not all assault rifles have a bad hip firing pattern... I can get alot of kills pretty easily hip firing the G36... Especially once I get the thermal scope. It turns the weapon into an excellent sniper rifle, while at the same time it seems to improve hip fire accuracy... (not sure if it actually does, but it seems to)
It's true that using SMG's will let you run faster, aim faster, and hip fire better... but that doesn't automatically mean that you'll do better with them. I tend to suck with the SMG's, yet I'm good with just about any other weapon...(I do better with shotguns than I do SMG's lol)
As far as "bunny hoppers" go... The only people I classify as "bunny hoppers" are the ones who have to jump at EVERY single corner, and EVERY time they fire (as if they have a macro with jump + fire bound to one key) They may be easy to kill, but it's just plain annoying, and imo shows a lack of skill...
People who just jump at opportunistic times (like when being shot at, or around a corner where they know someone is camping) are not "hoppers", it's just good evasive maneuvers
Best way to counter anyone who jumps is to be aiming at chest/head level most of the time. If they come around the corner airborne, it doesn't help them at all when your bullets catch them in the nutsack...
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Currently Being ModeratedJun 26, 2012 9:14 AM (in response to The_Hunter18)Re: Looking for Tutor! PC player that can teach me how to survive the bunny-hopping douchebags on multiplayer!
Serious question: Are you one of the supremacists where everyone has to play exactly your way or else they are "cheating, noob, douchbags"? If you hadn't called "bunny hoppers" douchebags in the title, I would have actually given you advice but I can tell that you are one of the people I would instantly mute in a lobby.
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Currently Being ModeratedJun 26, 2012 12:21 PM (in response to IAmSpur4)Re: Looking for Tutor! PC player that can teach me how to survive the bunny-hopping douchebags on multiplayer!
no need to make this personal. If you can't teach the_Hunter18 something, then teach me something. This is here for everyone to learn and appreciate.
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Currently Being ModeratedJun 26, 2012 12:47 PM (in response to cheaterssuk)Re: Looking for Tutor! PC player that can teach me how to survive the bunny-hopping douchebags on multiplayer!
He kind of made it personal tho. Calling bunny hoppers douchebags while asking for tutoring kinda fails. Chances are he needs a bunny hopper to teach him how to counter a bunny hopper, but I don't think "douchebags" are going to teach him anything instead they'd prolly jump all over him.
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Currently Being ModeratedJun 26, 2012 12:48 PM (in response to Ginjaku)Re: Looking for Tutor! PC player that can teach me how to survive the bunny-hopping douchebags on multiplayer!
It's not that I'm a person who ragequits, it's just I don't think that the game should be played like that. I mean, really! Just fire the damn gun and whoever is faster wins!
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Currently Being ModeratedJun 26, 2012 12:52 PM (in response to The_Hunter18)Re: Looking for Tutor! PC player that can teach me how to survive the bunny-hopping douchebags on multiplayer!
That was the American civil war time period. We are not longer fighting that way ever since the gerilla (might spelt wrong) warfare was invented.
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Currently Being ModeratedJun 26, 2012 12:57 PM (in response to Ginjaku)Re: Looking for Tutor! PC player that can teach me how to survive the bunny-hopping douchebags on multiplayer!
now boys... use every aspect of the game. That's one of the things that make it such a great game. There is a LOT to know, learn and develope. I am working on my hopping skills

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Currently Being ModeratedJun 26, 2012 1:14 PM (in response to cheaterssuk)Re: Looking for Tutor! PC player that can teach me how to survive the bunny-hopping douchebags on multiplayer!
Exactly! American Navy Seals do that everyday, you don't see talibans call them douchebags or haxors.
The sole purpose of bunny hopping is to possibly provide them the element of supprise. The longer the bunny hopper can delay your reaction time, the safer they are and more time for them to hit you.
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Currently Being ModeratedJun 26, 2012 3:52 PM (in response to Ginjaku)Re: Looking for Tutor! PC player that can teach me how to survive the bunny-hopping douchebags on multiplayer!
Pretty sure they don't do that....
Anyways I don't care. I have lag and I just want to find a way to KILL them. This post is for that SOLE purpose only. That's all I wish to see on this post from now on, okay?
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Currently Being ModeratedJun 27, 2012 4:45 AM (in response to The_Hunter18)Re: Looking for Tutor! PC player that can teach me how to survive the bunny-hopping douchebags on multiplayer!
Playing cod is a bit like walking into a gay bar, keep your back against the wall and don't walk out in the open!

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Currently Being ModeratedJun 27, 2012 3:59 PM (in response to The_Hunter18)Re: Looking for Tutor! PC player that can teach me how to survive the bunny-hopping douchebags on multiplayer!
Pay attention, i shall say this only once....
anti bunny tactic..... if an opponent you know is a hopper, dont aim for mid body, you will only shoot thru his legs, aim above him, he will hop up into your hail of fire and die before he gets a round off. end of lesson
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