Jun 16, 2012 7:36 PM
Shotgun vs shotgun?
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Just played a match where the entire team was using shotguns, so i used mine.
What have you guys found on the distance and lethality of them? I must have fired about 9 rounds at this guy- but he still turned around and gave me one shot to the chest from the same distance and i went down.
Whats the best shotgun to use?
Depends on what you're looking for. If you're looking for a balanced, all rounded one, then the USAS-12 is a good candidate. Looking for a shotgun with high power up close, then the KSG-12 is the way to go. Looking for something similar the KSG-12 but with a higher rate of fire, then go for the SPAS-12 with Grip (it increases Rate of Fire, kinda like it did on the Stakeout in Black Ops). A shotgun with deadly rate of fire over all of the shotguns, the AA-12 with range would be a good idea (don't use anything for third perk unless it's Steady Aim). A shotgun with a big magazine, go for the Striker (use it with Recon, Hardline, and Flashbangs for a good Room Cleaning class, even better with Range). A shotgun with a high minimum damage at range would be the Model 1887. I don't have any recommendations as it can work with about anything (just remember to put Damage on it). You can use any Shotgun and be succesful with it, just matters how you play.
I like the Spas-12 the best, its powerful and has pretty good range. I usually run it with damage or kick during the early lvl
First and foremost - once you get the grip attachment, you do not need the kick proficiency on the shotgun. Range, focus and damage are your best bets.
If I'm playing with my heart, I go with the AA-12 because I just love the thing; at 400 rounds per minute, that's a whoooole lot of buckshot you're putting out there. That being said, the range isn't as good as the other scatter guns, so I put range & grip on it.
If I'm playing with my head, it's USAS-12, hands down. The damage is very good "right out of the box"; for my taste, I use it with focus & a grip.
The KSG also has a great damage rating, but I won't use it on small/tight maps like Seatown because opponenets are usually coming so closely packed together, there's no time to cycle the pump action between 'em. Get one, get killed. Died a ton the first - and only - time I used it on that map. I do like to use it on more open maps like Interchange though because opponents are usually more spread out. Again, focus & a grip.
I've tried the Striker, but I find it takes too many shots for a kill. Watched the game winning kill cam when our squad won at team deathmatch, and from fairly close range, it still took three shots for my teammate to get the kill.
I haven't tried either the Spas or the 1886 but that's just because the AA-12, USAS, and KSG suit me just fine.
Hope the info helps.
Keep your powder dry,
Wolf
I was an avid shotgun user my third prestige. I can tell you from experience the striker worked best for me. Range is nice and all but damage is where it's at. Until you get damage on any shotgun, you are going to lose a lot of gun fights. Especially against a whole team running shotguns, (that probably always run shotguns), and therefore most likely already have the damage proficiency.
If you're looking for a semi auto I'd go SPAS, if you're looking for an auto I'd go striker (and yes I know striker is not technically and auto shotgun but it is a lot more auto than those pump actions....
dont bother with the spas-12 or the model. trust me, i have both with damage and i get nothing but hitmarkers (even in hardcore, which is mindblowing). working my way up on the ksg atm
Try not ADS
I have used both and got 1 shot kills on a regular basis with a shitty connection. For some reason shotguns do better when you run them with steadyaim and don't ADS.
If I was to rate the shotguns:
1) Striker
2) USAS-12
3) Spas-12
4) KSG-1
5) Model 1887
6) AA-12
3-6 are the most annoying shotguns to rank up in my opinion.
Striker & the USAS-12 are the easiest shotguns to rank up.
The striker is most definitely the easiest to rank up. I'd say the Model is the hardest. As for the AA-12, it is an alright shotgun. Definitely not the best but I have to disagree making it the worst shotgun. To each his own though.
Semperfi989 wrote:
The striker is most definitely the easiest to rank up. I'd say the Model is the hardest. As for the AA-12, it is an alright shotgun. Definitely not the best but I have to disagree making it the worst shotgun. To each his own though.
I put the AA-12 down the bottom as it forces you to use the Specialist package considering it has a long reload time & low starting ammo which requires you to use SOH & Scavenger Pro (which are both Tier 1 perks).
The shotgun in my opinion is absolute crap without Range due to it's limited range compared to the rest of the shotguns available.
I guess since I run specialist a lot I had never thought about that but then again I run specialist on all my shotgun classes. I see where you're coming from though.
The striker is still just so douchey IMO. Especially with DMG or Range. It's just to easy to pump out rounds in the effective ranges of all the other shotguns, you can still get one shot kills and if not it's just easy as eff to get all those rounds out in between the time it takes some one with a pump to fire again.
The USAS is just God Mode now too, it's ridiculous stupid good. Out of all the pumps, I've ranked the KSG, and Model up to gold and both are amazing guns with DMG on them. I would suggest KSG with the grip but I've also had a lot of succes with it being run silencer and dmg or range (range worked best I found). I started lvl'ing the spas on my other account too and it's blowing my mind how good it is, my friend has it plus the model and KSG in gold and says he thinks the spas is best as well. But the Model and KSG are tied for most fun.
Getting into those rare lobbies where everyone just randomly agrees without talking to all use shotguns, my sweet baby jesus those lobbies are amazing.