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Jan 22, 2011 1:39 PM

the ak74u solution

make it a classified gun as it is unique because it's a both an assault rifle and an smg. the kipris is barely unique at all
  • psijaka Apprentice 1,129 posts since
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    Jan 22, 2011 1:46 PM (in response to maryjuewanna)
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    Mary Jue Wanna wrote:

     

    make it a classified gun as it is unique because it's a both an assault rifle and an smg. the kipris is barely unique at all


    An interesting idea; certainly better than the usual "nerf the AK74" posts.

    But I think the problem lies in the fact that most of the rest of the SMGs are just so weak when up against the assault rifles, and I believe that buffing them is the answer.

    I recently opened a thread on this subject, which is just too long to repeat here.

    If you are interested, take a look at "AK74 & Famas overpowered? Analysis of Killed By figures" 

    http://community.callofduty.com/thread/100403677
  • psijaka Apprentice 1,129 posts since
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    Jan 22, 2011 1:55 PM (in response to maryjuewanna)
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    Mary Jue Wanna wrote:

     

    yeah i  read it, the other smgs should have bigger mags bu 5-10(varying) and have a damage dropoff slower than the stronger ones. also make the uzi do 35-20 damage so its actually usefull


    If the Uzi was 35-20, then there is a danger that everyone would start using it, and it would become the next overpowered object of hate. We need something a bit more subtle than that.

    I suggest introducing a chest damage multiplier of 1.2 for the 30-20 damage SMGs, making them a 3 bullet kill if you hit the chest twice.

    The machine pistols need to have a small clip (20) otherwise they would be just too good close up (I have fun with dual MAC11s). They should have improved ADS time to make them a bit more attractive if used singly. As it is, why bother?
  • psijaka Apprentice 1,129 posts since
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    Jan 22, 2011 2:03 PM (in response to maryjuewanna)
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    Mary Jue Wanna wrote:

     

    I like your 1.2x idea but what about the Famas and aug


    I don't think that they are particularly overpowered. Just over-rated. The buffed 30-20 SMGs could stand up to them with rapid fire, so the problem is partly solved.

    The only nerf that I would suggest is to reduce the high recentre speed of the Famas (1600) to the same as the other full auto ARs (1500). This would be a simple change to make, and, whilst it would not have any impact on close range dropping power, would certainly make the gun harder to use at medium and long range.

    You may be surprised by my belief that they are not particularly overpowered, but they really are not as good as the Galil, AK47 and Commando at long range. The higher damage and slower rate of fire of these guns is an advantage when longshotting [edit] and when shooting through cover.[/edit]
  • zzirJizz Calculating status... 61 posts since
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    Jan 22, 2011 2:05 PM (in response to maryjuewanna)
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    I think they should drop the damage of AUG and Famas as theoretically they kill faster then an SMG up close.
  • zzirJizz Newbie 61 posts since
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    Jan 22, 2011 2:09 PM (in response to maryjuewanna)
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    Mary Jue Wanna wrote:

     

    how about making the aug fire 900 rpm and have the famas fire 850 rpm. what else needs changing


    I'm not sure because I think there are too many guns really similar/the same.
  • psijaka Apprentice 1,129 posts since
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    Jan 22, 2011 2:16 PM (in response to maryjuewanna)
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    zzirJizz wrote:

     

    Mary Jue Wanna wrote:

     

    how about making the aug fire 900 rpm and have the famas fire 850 rpm. what else needs changing


    I'm not sure because I think there are too many guns really similar/the same.


    That is true; just look at the 30-20 damage SMGs. And the AK47/Commando.

    I don't have a problem with the Famas/Aug being powerful close up, as long as there is a compromise elsewhere. Which there is; they are just not so good for long range work as the AK47 etc.

    And as long as the SMGs can stand up to them. As it is, only the MP5 rapid fire, AK74 rapid fire, M60, Skorpion and dual wields at very close range will drop someone faster than the Famas/Aug. And OSK weapons, of course, but they have their own disadvantages.

    Buffing the 30-20 SMGs as I suggested would give them the edge in the hands of a skilled player
  • K5Blazer1986 Newbie 51 posts since
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    Jan 22, 2011 2:22 PM (in response to maryjuewanna)
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    Am I the only person who thinks that the balance is fine?  I haven't even used the 74u this prestige (6th level 44) and I don't plan on it because i prefer the spectre and the mpl.  I also use the famas, ak47, L96A1, and m60.
  • psijaka Apprentice 1,129 posts since
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    Jan 22, 2011 2:25 PM (in response to maryjuewanna)
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    K5Blazer1986 wrote:

     

    Am I the only person who thinks that the balance is fine?  I haven't even used the 74u this prestige (6th level 44) and I don't plan on it because i prefer the spectre and the mpl.  I also use the famas, ak47, L96A1, and m60.


    I don't think that the so called overpowered guns break the game; after all, the skill of the player is what really counts, and the guns in question can be used by anyone, but I do think that it is a bit of a shame that some guns are used so infrequently.
  • psijaka Apprentice 1,129 posts since
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    Jan 22, 2011 2:38 PM (in response to maryjuewanna)
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    Agreed

    Although there is nothing to stop you trying the less well used weapons yourself.

    If I feel like a change, I pull out a pair of MAC11s. Or the HS10. Sure, I die a lot, but I also kill a lot, and have great fun!
  • ShowbizZombie Expert 1,545 posts since
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    Jan 22, 2011 2:55 PM (in response to maryjuewanna)
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    I've an idea. Let's make it so when you pull the trigger for the AK-74u, the gun emplods itself. Just killing you, no-one else.
  • Newbie 60 posts since
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    Jan 22, 2011 3:09 PM (in response to maryjuewanna)
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    It's sad that so many people can't get out of the comfort zone of the ak74 when there are other great smgs like the mp5k, mpl and spectre.
  • Apprentice 1,144 posts since
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    Jan 22, 2011 3:22 PM (in response to maryjuewanna)
    Re: the ak74u solution

    Mary Jue Wanna wrote:

     

    how about making the aug fire 900 rpm and have the famas fire 850 rpm. what else needs changing



    Good idea.
    As of now, the AUG has no advantage over the Famas. It simply has harder-to-manage recoil.

    They're both overpowered as they have AR range (obv), but fire faster than half the SMG's.
    However, SMG's firing 937.5 RPM just like the Famaug kill in 4 bullets. The Famaug kills in 3.

    Technically, this makes the Famaug better than all SMG's in both close and medium range.
    The only advantage the 74u has against them is the standard SMG traits (mobility, raise time, hip accuracy)
  • AkamVensA Newbie 76 posts since
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    Jan 22, 2011 3:39 PM (in response to maryjuewanna)
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    Finally, a worthwhile suggestion! Thank you OP, now I feel refreshed.
  • whogivesafuk Calculating status... 1 posts since
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    Jun 16, 2012 10:32 AM (in response to maryjuewanna)
    Re: the ak74u solution

    Ivy Valentine from Soulcalibur fucking a lot of guys

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