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  • ILikeLaglessGames Apprentice 182 posts since
    Mar 21, 2012

    So what you're saying is, you like making people unhappy when you're unhappy?  Good.

  • TriggerHappyClown Novice 142 posts since
    May 29, 2012

    No what I want is for the devs to see how unhappy we are and work with us to make us all happy.  Right now the shotgun community might as well be communicating with a Brick wall.  And frankly there is a big difference between Ghandi and the devs and the rest of us.  They GET PAID to put up with our crap, we PAID to put up with theirs.

  • asasa Master 5,389 posts since
    Oct 20, 2011

    Heh, yep.

     

    Such incompetent developers... it really is sickening. The money these people make off such garbage :/

  • vims1990 Master 7,517 posts since
    Aug 13, 2011

    Btw are they really buffing the models ohk constancy? Would be awesome. When is this? Next patch? Or already done in hot fix?

     

    It hasn't been confirmed if we'll see the buff.

     

    Both Teanah & BanCandy were taking suggestions to how they can improve MW3 & I brought up suggestions such as rewarding the player the full kill if the teammate finishes off the player in Final Stand & buffing some of the shotguns including the Model 1887.

     

    http://www.callofduty.com/thread/200432378?start=45&tstart=0

  • TriggerHappyClown Novice 142 posts since
    May 29, 2012

    If they did make the model a 2 pellet kill up close that would be wonderful.  I know a lot of people would be very happy to see something done about the pump shotguns.

  • trialstardragon Master 10,400 posts since
    May 26, 2011

    I do not agree with that suggestion. the kill should go to the person who kills them not just the person who does the most damage. BO broke the system not fixed it, when they made that change.

     

    A kill is not rigtfully earned if you did not actually kill them completely. Giving the kill to the person that puts them in last stand will make it were people do not even try to finish off last standers if the put them there. They will just move on and continue playing because they know they will get the kill if someone else kills them.

     

    If they make that change they need to reduce in half the time it takes for a person to get back up, so if the person leaves there is a less chance of that person getting a free kills for not finishing off the player.

  • dastealth Master 1,637 posts since
    Jun 1, 2011

    TriggerHappyClown wrote:

     

    No it makes no sense because the things we are asking for are things we have had for a long time and the entire community is fine with them.  The largest audience is fine with what we are asking for.  And most people don't even notice the difference.

     

    Issue 2 only applies to the striker and aa12 because they are capable of producing 2112 and 3200 hitscans per minute respectively.  But the spas ksg and 1887 can only produce 520 hitscans per minute or less.  That is slower than the m60 by 80 rpm.  The pumps do not have any impact on gameplay due to hitscan issues.

    The difference is that the M60 doesn't shoot out multiple bullets at one time. If (and this is a purely fictional and hypothetical example) every member of both teams had a pump action shotgun and all of the fired 1 shot at the same time could you imagine how much lag that would cause. You can already see the effects of "shotgun lag" when more than 3 people are running shotguns. It is not about hitscans per minute but more about the concentrated effect at a single moment in time...

  • vims1990 Master 7,517 posts since
    Aug 13, 2011

    trialstardragon wrote:

     

    I do not agree with that suggestion. the kill should go to the person who kills them not just the person who does the most damage. BO broke the system not fixed it, when they made that change.

     

    A kill is not rigtfully earned if you did not actually kill them completely. Giving the kill to the person that puts them in last stand will make it were people do not even try to finish off last standers if the put them there. They will just move on and continue playing because they know they will get the kill if someone else kills them.

     

    If they make that change they need to reduce in half the time it takes for a person to get back up, so if the person leaves there is a less chance of that person getting a free kills for not finishing off the player.

     

    My idea to bring back rewarding the player for the full kill has mostly received positive reactions from the community apart from you.

     

    Feel free to debate this on the community thread though.

  • TriggerHappyClown Novice 142 posts since
    May 29, 2012

    No.  Just no.

     

    The person who puts the person down does 100+ damage yet the dude who lobs a flash bang all the way across the map and delivers the last point of damage gets the kill.  I had not met anyone who didn't like the blackops system regarding last stand until today.

     

    Considering that final stand shouldn't be in the game in the first place and the fact that on anyone without the final stand death streak the amount of damage would have killed the person who was put into final stand.  So considering the death streak its self is not really earned (it is given) the person who puts the target into final stand should get the kill based on merit.

     

    people in mw3 do not leave people just lying around in final stand.  In black ops the person in last stand was relatively harmless because they had to use a pistol.  In mw3 a person in final stand can use their primary weapon and equipment.  In black ops people in last stand were meant to be screwed with.  People in final stand in mw3 are still deadly (dozens of broken specialist streaks can attest to that) and will not be left alone for long.

     

    Did you just suggest that they buff a death streak?!?!?!  What is this, I don't even...

  • dedicatedserversplease Master 6,422 posts since
    May 23, 2011

    @Vims and Trigger-

       Most people already know Trial is an antagonist.  Just ignore him and his views.

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