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Currently Being ModeratedRe: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Notes
Really who cares about any guns at all being one way powerful or not when probably if the sync issue gets fixed you might get a one hit kill with a shottie??
Me personaly just want the hit detection to work better even now with it being way off i can get any of the shotties to work in their intended ranges usually..
I want the sync issues fixed since the very first patch of this game sync issues have been wayyyyyyyyy offffffff.
Really shot guns are a problem??..
Wow..
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Currently Being ModeratedRe: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Notes
An argument implies that there are sides that present their opinions and then support them with facts and statistics. And then the sides debate weather the presented facts and statistics sufficiently support the initial stance of each side.
What has happened here is more like one side presents facts, statistics, and personal experiences supporting their side of the argument and then the other side says "NUH UHH".
You and your team have been more cordial than just saying "NUH UHH" but the things you do say don't make much more sense anyway.
We have gathered enough data from elite profiles to know for sure that the spas, ksg, 1887, and aa12 performs significantly worse than the other primaries in mw3. We also know from the fact that the last 7 cod games (including this one) have had shotguns with a 2/8 pellet kill up close (or equivalent) that the community is fine with our proposals.
We know shotguns are out of balance, we are well past this step. The question is why they are kept out of balance.
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They are, I've had hitmarkers with my fully leveled Spas on a guy NOT MOVING AT ALL. I was aiming down sights and my aim was DEAD ON, there is something wrong there! And I know connection is a problem too, and they definatly need to fix it but I think a shotgun buff should be higher in the "priority list" too....
EDIT: I was within knife range too O__O
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Okay Ghandi, I've got an idea, after you guys fix the connection and lag comp issues, we are going to test out the shotguns again, if they're still crap, can you consider a buff? Because when the connection's are better we can see the performance of the Shotguns even better. Good idea?....
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We were all promised a buff to shotguns except the striker by Robert before he left. This was never done. The spas got weaker up close and stronger at range so it was "rebalanced" not buffed. The usas and ksg got easier to level but are the same now at max level as they were upon release at max level. Making something easier to level is not a buff. The 1887 and aa12 are untouched. We were promised things that were never delivered.
Another funny thing. The extended mags "glitch" "unintentionally" gave 50% more damage to all shotguns with the capability of equipping them. How is it that only one (the striker) was even remotely overpowered? A 50% damage increase over what shotguns were supposed to be and only one out of five weapons the glitch applies to gets out of balance? Strange goings on...
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After 7 months of hitmarkers and broken promises I am not willing to rely on network fixes to solve our problems. And again if connections get better all of the weapons will perform better as well.
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The AA12 also got nerfed by removing the Extended mags glitch....
The shotguns were fine pre-patch except the Striker, removing the ext mags glitch from the Striker was the only thing neccessary. I want to like MW3 again, but it's hard with only 1 usable shotgun.....
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Ghandi - I can't seem to get into any lobbies under 50ms for the last couple of days. This has never happened to me since launch on the connection I'm using.
The games are full of teleporting and skipping players, I even found myself put into a lobby where I was the only player up against a full team. My network's perfect and I don't want to use one of the fibre connections I have as I always default to host.
I can ping LA from just north of London in 140ms, so that'll give you an idea of the line quality;
http://www.pingtest.net/result/63465337.png
http://www.pingtest.net/result/63466309.png
Is this being caused by these issues you've recently said you're aware of?
Xbox btw, all dlc enabled.
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Which won't help the shotguns because the PP90 will kill faster than it can shoot!
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Okay, go play with your kids. That is more important that our "arguments" over a video game. But when you get back we really need to talk.
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