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May 22, 2012 9:40 AM

Does Sitrep Pro counters Dead Silence now?

Just wanted to know if Sitrep Pro counters Dead Silence now.

I notice on a in a 1v1 match that the oppenent was using sitrep pro and he knew were I was running all the time even thought I had dead silence.

  • grif77775 Expert
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    May 22, 2012 9:50 AM (in response to southhazard619)
    Re: Does Sitrep Pro counters Dead Silence now?

    I'm a bit confused as to what the problem is. Before the patch sit rep was almost useless because of stalker pro, Now that they've made sit rep useful people are conplaining it. The dev's have given players a reason to use something other than stalker or dead silence so run with and see what happens.

  • Ellixander Novice
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    May 22, 2012 9:58 AM (in response to southhazard619)
    Re: Does Sitrep Pro counters Dead Silence now?

    Havent tried it yet but sitrep pro now lets you hear dead silence users at normal (non dead silence) volumes from what i understand, whereas before you were completely silent

     

    I think it was like this in mw2 too

     

    came with the most recent patch methinks

  • smokesdope Master
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    May 22, 2012 10:24 AM (in response to southhazard619)
    Re: Does Sitrep Pro counters Dead Silence now?

    Yes they patched sit rep pro so that you can hear Dead silence but if you use specialist equip sit rep and dead silence as a first  unlock etc you can still hear your own foot steps but they are working on a patch , hot fix that will be inforce next week.

  • novapr0ph37 Novice
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    May 22, 2012 11:56 AM (in response to southhazard619)
    Re: Does Sitrep Pro counters Dead Silence now?

    Sitrep kills dead silence. It also kills uav, portable radar and assassin. Why need any of those when you can hear them coming? The corners in this game are gonna be very crowded soon.

  • WongKnife Novice
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    May 22, 2012 12:14 PM (in response to southhazard619)
    Re: Does Sitrep Pro counters Dead Silence now?

    Might just be me but I think you hear DS at Sitrep Pro volume now :O

  • southhazard619 Newbie
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    May 25, 2012 11:29 AM (in response to southhazard619)
    Re: Does Sitrep Pro counters Dead Silence now?

    Wells Its comfirm. Dead Silence is useless agaist Sitrep Pro.

  • bltzazrael Apprentice
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    May 25, 2012 12:43 PM (in response to southhazard619)
    Re: Does Sitrep Pro counters Dead Silence now?

    I have seen a huge spike in people using sit rep. Especially in SnD, IMO it has made this game worse. What is the point of having a perk like DS now? They made sitrep too OP, now you can hear anyone and you can see every equipment and stuff, wtf?

     

    If DS continues to have a counter this ridiculous I will not be behind any more COD games in the future, you might as well just give every player that has a headset a bonus of 15 kills per match.

     

    The sad thing is I have heard so many people say "It won't make a difference no one uses sit rep". All I have to say to that is BULLCRAP, before playing any game mode I have seen maybe 1 player use it per game, now I see around 6 people using it and that number grows more in SnD every time I play. Way to go IW, ruin the last thing you had going for you.

     

    Absolutely pathetic.

  • nicedrewishfela Master
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    May 25, 2012 8:13 PM (in response to southhazard619)
    Re: Does Sitrep Pro counters Dead Silence now?

    I just really noticed this today. Was playing against a corner camping Quickscoper, and noticed on the killcam that despite my Dead Silence Pro, I sounded like an elephant running through the house.

     

    I am not sure why they did this. Why render another perk completely useless? I could see making them slightly audible, but to make them louder than normal footsteps seems a bit much to me. There is already a counter to Dead Silence... its called Claymores or Betties, or just your eyes. In  this case, it helped the camper who just sat in his corner and was able to pre-fire at me around corners.

     

    Black Ops got it right. Sit-rep<Hacker> showed enemy equipment, and at Pro allowed them to be hacked. Not sure about this change, I think it will be a boon to the campers. I can't think of another Perk that renders another perk useless... maybe Assassin Pro to Marksman?

     

    Not a fan of this change.

  • Hidden-Legaciez Apprentice
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    May 26, 2012 5:15 AM (in response to southhazard619)
    Re: Does Sitrep Pro counters Dead Silence now?

    its the complete opposit your still heard( i think) but you can hear better

    but if your a sound lover id go with dead silence i love being so quite( i dont soundlove)

    GHOST PRO- BEST PERK EVER - ASSASIN SUCKS

  • anoreo Master
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    May 26, 2012 7:44 AM (in response to southhazard619)
    Re: Does Sitrep Pro counters Dead Silence now?

    I worked hard for my 50 equipment destroys, and it was well worth it. Just so you know, Dead Silence IS NOT completely useless! I can only hear them at normal levels, whereas everyone else is walking elephants.

     

    Also as an FYI, Sit Rep users don't have Dead Silence on.(usually) So that means you can Sit Rep them in turn or just, you know, toss some bullets their way. You are never guaranteed a kill just because I sit there shooting at a doorway with a silenced LMG because I know you will pop out of there in a second ;D

     

    Anyways, I'm loving Sit Rep atm. Before, EVERYBODY ran Dead Silence. It was like being on a wild goose chase! That's not fun.

    • Buckeye015 Master
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      May 26, 2012 7:54 AM (in response to anoreo)
      Re: Does Sitrep Pro counters Dead Silence now?

      go play halo scrub. Soundwhoring takes no skill (anyone with ears can do it, and it's just GIVEN to you). Dead silence is what made SnD take SKILL. You are just one of those whining little babies that wants everything to be handed to them on a golden plate. Now in SnD, if you are moving, you are at a HUGE disadvantage. Get out of your corner and stop using sitrep pro you noob. Sitrep pro is now like the ultra noob perk. Most overpowered perk and noobiest in cod history.

    • bltzazrael Apprentice
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      May 26, 2012 8:05 AM (in response to anoreo)
      Re: Does Sitrep Pro counters Dead Silence now?

      Basically everyone I have seen use this perk is just sitting in a corner waiting to hear someone walk by, so however loud I am with DS doesn't matter because I AM STILL LOUD.

       

      It's hard to get the drop on someone in a bush in their spawn sound whoring every step you take. Don't get me wrong, I can turn on a lot of them and get the kill but why give someone an advantage this strong? You might as well give them a radar always on perk.

       

      The reason most rocked DS was because of head sets, and people sound whoring in corners. It was the only defense against campers, now this game has nothing but campers. You see how they took the skill of moving around finding other players to get the drop on them out of this game?

       

      Now can you tell me how this is fun?

  • indy56 Apprentice
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    May 26, 2012 8:41 AM (in response to southhazard619)
    Re: Does Sitrep Pro counters Dead Silence now?

    i love using sit-rep pro, its such fun to watch your team mates go for those booby trapped care packages  which glow so nicely when using this perk,and picking out where campers are likely to be hiding,

    • 1337xxxPr0sNiPeZ Master
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      May 26, 2012 8:49 AM (in response to indy56)
      Re: Does Sitrep Pro counters Dead Silence now?

      I refuse to use it because it is so overpowered and nooby. It was balanced the way it was before.

      • indy56 Apprentice
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        May 26, 2012 9:25 AM (in response to 1337xxxPr0sNiPeZ)
        Re: Does Sitrep Pro counters Dead Silence now?

        just looking at your name  makes me want to laugh, 1337xxxPrOsNiPeZ, now thats as you would  say  is nooby, lol

        • 1337xxxPr0sNiPeZ Master
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          May 26, 2012 9:32 AM (in response to indy56)
          Re: Does Sitrep Pro counters Dead Silence now?

          lol it's a joke name, as I'm sure u see

          • X_MISSILE_X Novice
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            May 29, 2012 3:00 AM (in response to 1337xxxPr0sNiPeZ)
            Re: Does Sitrep Pro counters Dead Silence now?

            Sitrep Pro & Dead Silence = Campfest!

            Clearly more balanced ? WTF!?

             

            Would have been smarter to mash all the footstep soundwh%re properties to Deadsilence. Dead SIlence Pro having 4x Footstep volume.

            Moving no falling damage to Extreme Conditioning Pro.

             

            Sitrep Pro should have hidden you from portable radar, for balancing.

            Leading to less Assassin benefits.

             

            This is balance: player with this idea of sitrep pro could be soundwh%red vs. player soundwh%ring shows on sitrep player's portable radar" Here is where the skill comes in.

             

            Specialist is really GOOD. >.>

             

            Too late for changes

            • bltzazrael Apprentice
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              May 29, 2012 4:17 AM (in response to X_MISSILE_X)
              Re: Does Sitrep Pro counters Dead Silence now?

              No SRP should not do that with hiding from radar. Portable radar should be taken out of the game considering it is useless and just encourages camping.

               

              Why must we rely on perks and equipment, what ever happened to the guns and having skill?

              • vims1990 Master
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                May 29, 2012 4:59 AM (in response to bltzazrael)
                Re: Does Sitrep Pro counters Dead Silence now?

                Sitrep Pro = Louder Footsteps

                Dead Silence = Silent Footsteps

                 

                Sitrep Pro cancels Dead Silence, Dead Silence cancels out Sitrep Pro

                 

                Logically it makes sense as both perks cancel each other out which means Sitrep Pro and Dead Silence players will hear each other at normal footstep volume.

                 

                I'll add this tweet as well:

                 

                https://twitter.com/fourzerotwo/statuses/126836994381848576

                 

                As stated by Robert Bowling on the 20th Oct 2011 to one of his twitter followers:

                “SitRep Pro counters Dead Silence by cancelling it out. Just as Recon cancels Assassin by making you show up when tagged.”

                 

                Sitrep Pro not countering Dead Silence was a bug which is has now been fixed after the patch

                • bltzazrael Apprentice
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                  May 29, 2012 5:10 AM (in response to vims1990)
                  Re: Does Sitrep Pro counters Dead Silence now?

                  I was fully aware of this "glitch" when the game came out. I believe about most of the gamers were happy to hear it wasn't patched until now. As well as I believe they purposely let this patch wait so long before releasing it just to test the waters on how well the game would do with and without a huge counter such as this.

                   

                  As far as making SRP cancel out DS that is a horrendous idea, logically it makes sense to a degree. Now actually playing like this ruins many elements of the game, including the part where they wanted faster game flow. It is something that should have never been allowed in the first place and hopefully in the future will never be allowed again.

                  • vims1990 Master
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                    May 29, 2012 5:47 AM (in response to bltzazrael)
                    Re: Does Sitrep Pro counters Dead Silence now?

                    I've been on the forums for a while & there were a number of discussions on whether SR Pro will counter DS in which there were positive responses when Rob made the annoucement that it would via twitter. (this is before MW3 was released).

                     

                    It wasn't patched until now due to IW focusing on improving matchmaking, region lock, connectivity & exploits/hacks/out of map glitches.

                     

                    Personally I think you're overreacting due to this change. I use Sitrep Pro on a couple of my classes & I barely hear Dead Silence players after the patch. It's the same volume as to when I'm using Marksmen & you're using Stalker & we barely hear each other. (By the way, I use the Astro A40 Gaming Headset).

                     

                     

                    It is something that should have never been allowed in the first place and hopefully in the future will never be allowed again.

                     

                    You may find the below interesting:

                     

                     

                    You may be disappointed to know that many players voted (2) Cancel each other out which is what MW3 is doing with SR Pro & DS.

                     

                    So it is highly likely BO2 may follow the same concept as MW3 when both perks cancel each other out.

                    • bltzazrael Apprentice
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                      May 29, 2012 6:17 AM (in response to vims1990)
                      Re: Does Sitrep Pro counters Dead Silence now?

                      Like I said, good on paper not so good when applying it. That debate had how many voters, 100 if that? Also it did nothing to help contribute to it considering like you said in earlier post, they originally wanted this as a counter since the beginning of MW3. This was posted May 14, 2012 seems to me they already had the answer to that question. That post was just to have some activity in this clowns twitter.

                       

                      I have myself experimented with this SRP and let me tell you, I can hear people across half the map on almost any game type. It is a huge advantage being able to see equipment from just as far as I can hear anyone walking/running. I have a pair of Tritton ax 720 Dolby 7.1 as well as my back up TurtleBeach x4. Both I can hear just about the same distance.

                       

                      This patch makes the game mode of SnD almost unplayable. If people are on Defense they camp, people on offense don't wanna run to plant the bomb. Afraid of being sound whored by someone sitting in a bush waiting for a player to start walking. Other game modes it doesn't affect them as much due to the respawning ability. But it is still an inconvenience when players are going for their MOABs or trying to get that K/D ratio up cause they are so MLG.

                       

                      This perk idea is just like a bunch of other perks that sounded good until they were used and found to be a bad idea. Like these:

                       

                      One man army - unlimited tubes and other garbage

                      Marothon pro - unlimited running awesome!..NOT

                      Final Stand - really? you get a second chance at life

                      Commando - wtf were they thinking?

                      Sit rep pro - See and hear everything

                       

                      Not only are they bad, but they are too much in one perk. There are a few other perks but those were of the top of my head.

  • Jus_call_me_J Master
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    May 29, 2012 3:09 AM (in response to southhazard619)
    Re: Does Sitrep Pro counters Dead Silence now?

    You are all worrying over nothing...

     

    SRP takes a while to get, and you lose it every time you prestige. There really isn't that many people using it...

    • bltzazrael Apprentice
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      May 29, 2012 4:08 AM (in response to Jus_call_me_J)
      Re: Does Sitrep Pro counters Dead Silence now?

      Are you retarded? Seriously you know it's not HARD to get right? people boost, wether it's actually boosting or the HC knifing all equipment. It is everywhere, everyone uses it now, have you ever played SnD? If you do it's about half the players using it. MOABs take awhile to get and you see people getting them.

       

      We are not guessing about people using this perk, it's all a fact that SRP has been drastically used since this update. It is unbalanced and it takes a step backward from the aim of MW3, wasn't this game supposed to be fast past? Now I see everyone either not moving and or crouch walking and stopping.

       

      The sad part is this isn't just in SnD I have seen it in a lot of gamemodes now, mostly 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, Domo, Demo, and kill confirmed. When you can hear people basically across the map walking or running that is a huge advantage considering almost everyone has headsets now.

      • X_MISSILE_X Novice
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        May 29, 2012 4:43 AM (in response to bltzazrael)
        Re: Does Sitrep Pro counters Dead Silence now?

        bltzazrael wrote:

         

        Are you retarded? Seriously you know it's not HARD to get right? people boost, wether it's actually boosting or the HC knifing all equipment. It is everywhere, everyone uses it now, have you ever played SnD? If you do it's about half the players using it. MOABs take awhile to get and you see people getting them.

         

        We are not guessing about people using this perk, it's all a fact that SRP has been drastically used since this update. It is unbalanced and it takes a step backward from the aim of MW3, wasn't this game supposed to be fast past? Now I see everyone either not moving and or crouch walking and stopping.

         

        Very true. I just got on and there is an increase in players using this perk.

        Players camping in the same spot with high streaks.

         

        I have seen a lot of players boost for sitrep pro on FFA lobbies.

        They'll have the pro version in 4-5 games, estimation.

         

        Hell, MOABs are more frequent now, lol.

        I remember slapping on Sitrep Pro before patch: got 8 moabs in one day.

        Prestiged. Now after this patch I can't wait to get it again.

        Btw, just_call_meJ is not retarded.

      • Jus_call_me_J Master
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        May 29, 2012 12:21 PM (in response to bltzazrael)
        Re: Does Sitrep Pro counters Dead Silence now?

        bltzazrael wrote:

         

        Are you retarded?

        That's how far I got kid...

  • GhostmanLoon Expert
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    May 29, 2012 5:40 AM (in response to southhazard619)
    Re: Does Sitrep Pro counters Dead Silence now?

    Sit rep pro always countered dead silence.

  • muffscm Novice
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    May 29, 2012 5:49 AM (in response to southhazard619)
    Re: Does Sitrep Pro counters Dead Silence now?

    this game is garbage now every person has bitched about it an they keep making changes a majority of people do not want. it's catered torwards little kids iw only doing what they want not what the community provides them with. there just a bunch of thieves that suckered us all in to buy there crap at least add some more guns ive leveled all the guns up to 31 through 13 prestiges so far ******* boring they can add maps and game modes but not guns bull find that very hard to believe.

  • POPPSEE Newbie
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    May 30, 2012 9:29 AM (in response to southhazard619)
    Re: Does Sitrep Pro counters Dead Silence now?

    Sadly it does. If you have Sitrep Pro you can hear everyones footsteps even people using Dead Silence.

     

    I play SnD so it really effects me. Luckly no one really uses it.....yet.

     

     

    I was hoping they would fix and and make it to where if you have Sitrep Pro you can hear people with Dead Silence but NOT people with Dead Silence Pro.

     

    :/

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