May 23, 2012 4:46 PM
Please help: Best strategy for Domination Clan Ops on PS3?
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After playing the Domination Clan Ops on PS3 last weekend for the first time, I'm looking for recommendations from the community regarding a successful strategy? In other words, how do I stand the best chance of getting GOLD?
It's simple on other Clan Ops game modes. For instance, with something like TDM you simply kill as many people as possible just like you would when not playing TDM during Clan Ops. If you're really good at TDM you stand a good chance at doing well during a Clan Ops TDM.
On the flip side: Domination is won by the team that can hold the flags for the longest period of time (in a nutshell) but the Clan Ops version of Domination is instead based on how many captures you can get...not how long the flag is held. So if I normally play with a team that is VERY good at Domination and we can consistently hold 2 flags the entire game, it seems like we're at a disadvantage. Suggestions?
Control B and go back and forth between A and C.
If you run up on someone capping your flag, let him cap, then kill him and re-cap it.
Triple Cap as much as possible. If you do triple cap, let them have a flag so you can re-cap it.
Another thing you can do is have several members capping at once instead of just one.
i run quickdraw to lay that trophy system down in a hurry. then dont forget to pick it back up you still need it.
I see what you're saying about letting them cap the flag when you run up but officially, that's considered boosting.
In fact, if you check on this forum most boosting complaints are for exactly what you're talking about and as a result the player is suspended and his/her account is reset. I'm just saying that to give you a heads up...if anybody submits a video of you doing that your accound will be reset.
I really like your advice to make sure as many members cap the flag at the same time to maximize caps.
How is it boosting? It's strategy to maximize caps. I'm not saying organize with the other team. I'm just saying once you cap it, let it go and move to another flag. Once you cap that one, go to another one. It's common sense...
Learn the points on the map. Set up practice private matches and learn which points are easiest to defend, which ones you want the other team to spawn at and how to harrass them without getting so close you force them to spawn near the points YOU want to keep.
For full 6 man team you can have one or two defending each point, and the others intercepting the other team's attempts to cap, or they can rush and die trying to cap the other teams single point. Triple capping should only be done to draw them back to their point. If the other team makes a steady rush at your points, you will loose them due to lack of defence.
He knows how to play Dom. He's asking how to get more caps during Ops.
True...Domination is, to me at least, a completely different game than the Domination Clan Ops and strategies that we use don't result in a high number of captures which is the primary scoring behind Domination Clan Ops.
I disagree that letting someone cap your flag and then you recap it is boosting, explain why?
If the enemy who is capping doesnt see me and i wait until he caps it and then kill him,that is not boosting.
If you see them capping your flag and you LET them take it for the sake of you being able to attempt to recapture (thereby increasing your number of captures for the Clan Ops), that's considered boosting.
Why is that boosting? B/c you are cooperating with the other team member (ie: LETTING the enemy cap your flag when you should attempt to defend it). In normal Domination (ie: not during Clan Ops), it's not in your best interest to watch the enemy cap your flag. ...at least not if your goal is to win.
So are you saying that you WOULD consider it boosting if the enemy saw you while you're waiting on him to capture the flag? If so, who would be boosting?
I wouldn't consider it boosting in either way.
Thats garbage!! How can you class that kind of strategy as boosting?! On what level are you co-operating with him if he doesnt even know you're there?! Its just playing smart. If they hadn't have set up Domination clan ops the way they do you wouldn't even have to use that strategy. It can only be classed as 'boosting' if you and the opposition are in communication with each other.
hold 2 flags and don't get greedy and they will come to you and it will be an easy win for you and your team.
Yes I agree, an easy win BUT winning isn't the goal behind the Domination Clan Ops. The goal is to get as many captures as possible and if your team can consistently hold down 2 flags you probably won't even get SILVER for the Clan Ops.
That to me indicates a problem with the Domination Clan Ops. No?
Hold B and just continually swap A and C. Basically cap your spawn flag off the start and cap B. Push their spawn, flip it, take the flag while their taking your spawn flag and repeat the process. Letting the other team take flags is risky, this is the easiest way to guarantee constant caps while still getting a win and not bposting
The way my clan does it is we cap the A(or C if on the other spawn) flag when it starts and then cap B and then C(usually the other team has capped A by now) and then just keep doing that circle. We also let the enemy cap a flag before we kill them. It makes for funny taunting killcams I'm sure lol. But since the objective is caps and not how long you hold a flag, that's how we do it.
I've seen a lot of people get reported for boosting for exactly what you're talking about. I agree that since the objective of the Domination of Clan Ops is the most captures it makes sense to do what you say.
Just out of curiosity would you be frustrated if you were doing that and you get reported and your account gets completely wiped? I'm just saying b/c it happened to me which is why I posted the initial question.
What exactly did you get reported for? I don't see what about it is considered boosting.
If they changed the op to most defends, it would be so much easier.
Yes that would absolutely solve the confusion and the needless account resets. The fact that they didn't catch how flawed Clan Ops Domination is beyond me. It shows what little thought or rigor they put into the game.
Absolutely no defending. If your team holds a flag NO player should be near that flag. If u work as a team running together and capping, you can get alot of caps this way. IF you want to win you have to disregard wins/losses. You will have to take loses throughout the night to teams you could have easily beaten outside the clan OPs. You can not play an OP that only tracks one stat the way you would a regular game and be overly successful.
As for the suggestions about DOM OPs being switched to most defends I think thats a worse idea. Catering to the less skilled players and camping player in my opinion anyways. Games would be so slow and boring and most would last the entire time. It Would mostly be 4 or 5 guys on flags and 1 or 2 running trying to cap. I like how it rewards the aggressive players in the OPs and not those that sit back and KD whore.
Hmmm...good point actually. I didn't think about that scenario.
Actually the best approach to fix Clan Ops Domination I think would be based on the total score for each particular player. That way Clan Ops Domination would be scored just like normal Domination and there would be no confusion.
Although im a run and gunnr so the current format suits me perfectly. I agree pluff, score would be best way to score DOM OPs. This way it allows every type of player to play their style. Also would actually force teams to play the mode how its suppose to be played.
My clan has done what you suggest and we got a gold and still won matches. It is possible for your clan to rush flags and still win. Remember you win dom by hold the flag the most and you win clan ops by getting the most caps. All you need to do is cap a flag as soon as they take one of yours. That way you still have 2 flags which wins the match and have lots of caps which gets you gold.
oh dont get me wrong we still win almost all the games. But sometimes you gotta take a loss, and its pretty easy to get gold with the amount of clans that enlist and dont even play. We usually only have 4 or 5 guys out and still get gold all the time. I am just giving my opinion on the best way to obtain the maximum number of flags possible.
Disagree about no defending. If my team has our base flag plus B,of course we will defend our flags.
Just curious how many captures have u averaged in the DOM OPs this way?
There are 2 ways to do well in a Sticky Fingers Clan Op:
The first way is to luck out and run into a low-life honorless boosting clan...N.B. you and your clanmates also have to be low-life honorless boosters. Then you simply gather round a flag and one team jumps on the flag, gets the cap in two seconds and quickly jumps off the flag while the other team takes the flag. Rinse and repeat for a massive amount of caps. Stick with the same gang of boosters for match after match and both clans are positively guaranteed a gold medal-and a clan ranking in at least the top 5-600 for the Op. This also has the advantage of not impacting your K/D, what with no pesky randoms and the attendant noisy shooting and killing and dying and whatnot.
Having 2 full parties of gold medal hungry-at-any-cost boosters avoids those embarrassing video records of your so heroic efforts and also those randoms who pop in and ruin the tranquility of your boosting session with the noisy shooting and killing and dying and whatnot. Take pride in your stunning achievement-3 boring hours of dancing back and forth, and tell yourself that your clan is better than those below you. One more thing, pray that none of those randoms, who dared intrude on your little booster hokie-pokie dance, recorded your session and forwarded it to those who don't share your lack of honor.
The other way is actually a lot of fun. Get your clan together and set up some classes,perks and pointstreaks that will ensure a lot of caps.
You'll want to have a mix of smoke grenades and trophy systems on hand, while your classes should carry extreme conditioning and blast shield in the first 2 slots.
Subs, shotties and ARs are weapons of choice-speed is the key.
Pointstreaks should be a mix of UAV, CUAV, Vests, Advanced UAVs and EMPs. Make sure you all have coms up.
One player is the shot caller, he points your wrecking crew to a flag and you descend en masse. The first guys there engage defenders,provide intel and if they survive, they wait till most of the the clan arrives before a group cap. Kill anyone in your way, but don't chase them across the map, your goal is caps AS A TEAM, not upping your kills-other than feeding your pointstreaks, and the non-clan "defenders" are always out in force in a Sticky Fingers clan op-lol, so kills will take care of themselves. Soon the AUAV's and EMPs will start collecting and you sequentially spam the crap out of them-no air support, they're running blind and you have eyes on the enemies...I almost pity them..almost.
Put your KDR and W/L on the back burner, run, kill and cap as a team and you WILL get Gold!
Hold your heads up high as you EARN your gold through skill and teamwork. Revel in the fact that you didn't have to resort to sleazy and dishonorable "agreements of convenience" like so many scrub clans out there(they mostly get silvers and bronzes in other types of clan ops...just a coincidence, I guess)
This will also work with less than a full clan, but it depends on the randoms you're dealt. Party up with the ones who show the proper team spirit and have fun.
One last thing, two videos on Youtube show some really skillful implementation of these tactics by two very talented clans, it's where I got my info from. Search for:
MW3 - Clan Operations 2nd place Again!
Mw3 Clan op Domination Uk nexus 6th place finish
total score is not a valid solution to boosting either. I just reported an entire clan for boosting in multiple sticky fingers ops the entire party was getting scores of 8600 to 10000 each match with 0 to 5 kills because they would simply stand at the flag with the other team an take turns capping
Total score should be used as a red flag by IW/Activision to examine clans who manage to score extremely well with 0 or few deaths, especially when their stats show they are skilless scrubs otherwise.
I got dropped in a "match" between boosting clans 2 weeks ago, I killed 4 before they told me to cool it, that they were boosting. I told them to Get F**ked and left. Unfortunately, there was no record in Theater since I backed out, but I found the player list in Recent Matches and reported them to IW and Activision. I checked all of their Recent Matches during the Op and it was obvious that they were boosting...the heat maps alone damn them. The last Sticky Fingers Op found them doing the same thing...I kept the names of all involved and Recent Matches told the same story. I've already found 3 other clans that boost for gold, just by checking who the original boosting clans played "against".
Why is player provided video evidence the ONLY means to deal with these pukes? Surely the outrageous scores coupled with the IMPOSSIBLY low kills and deaths match after match could trigger some kind of video dump of the matches in question...then a quick view of them will confirm what is already known and the banhammer is unleashed and honor is restored...all without an endless series of emails, tweets, pm's and phone calls.
Why do the people who bought ELITE have to do the legwork instead of just enjoying it?
You just need to throw your kd out the window and give yourself all of the advantages possible (ie blast shield, ballistic vests, trophy system) and run around the map all day capping flags. So long as you're killing anything that gets in your way it's not considered boosting. However, a smart player will purposefully try and avoid the bulk of the enemy team (ie figure out their route without corrdinating with the other team) so that you spend less time in gun fights and more time capping flags. I often find that clans like to hold the B flag and if they do I just run back and forth from A to C. They can camp B all day if they want. I'm playing for caps and I'm not going to waste my time with them. I usually average around 150 -160 caps. It hurts my pride when I take a grenade to the head that I could have avoided just to get that last second needed to cap the flag but often I find that my respawn puts me closer to the next flag that I need to cap. So in a way I get rewarded for taking one for the team.
PS: Have a blind eye class ready because the flag campers will be calling in tons of air support.
We just run in circles, from A to B to C in a small tyte group and let the other side take the cap after we took it, then take it back. Don't worry about holding it if it is for as many caps as you can get.
On the defending side, again let the other side almost take the cap then kill them. Control the game and they will follow like sheep
Let them think they have a chance, don't spawn trap them or anything like that. If you give them a glimmer of hope they will try. We always get Gold in Clan Opps, unless some of us have to work ![]()