It's people like this that ruin the game for everyone. I had some little teenage douchebag tell me earlier how badass the game was now that he had the stealth hack aimbot on... because he "didnt have to worry as much about sync issues"...

If you have to mod/cheat to play this game... Then you should just have your xbox perma-banned from xbl or your ps3 perma-banned from psn. Maybe this would teach some of these little piss ants a lesson?

#justsayin

bubbacake wrote:

 

OK, IW. You had it your way. Shotguns are rubbish and will remain rubbish until the end of time.

 

However, what you have failed to provide is your team's reasons for not buffing them.

 

Despite the players having given you statistics, video evidence, suggestions, etc. Yet they decide to not buff them and now you are mute on reasons.

 

If you don't give an explanation, that shows 1 or more things.

 

1) IW has some prejudice against shotguns and does not want a fair debate on the subject.

 

2) IW is trying to cater to the brats that cry when they get killed by a shotgun and can't deal with it.

 

And I also love the fact that IW is fine with quickscoping (in fact, encouraging it) and allows a sniper rifle to be a better shotgun than the SPAS-12.

 

"Here's a real shotgun, the Barret 50 Cal., and plus it's semi automatic, so if you go into close range combat, you can use it just like a Striker. Then, it can be used like a Modern Warfare 2 SPAS-12 with its sniping ability."

 

- xcalizorz

http://youtu.be/PK_yGw9_WOY - This is the video of the Longshot I got with a Shotgun. I understand that I had Specialist bonus and it is the Striker but just saying that if you have good connectivity and the OTHER shotguns you have mentioned get a buff this could be happening more often. I have stated reasons in which I believe shotguns should be left alone for the time being. (Sorry for bringing it back up but I wouldn't have if bubbacake hadn't)

Back onto the SMG debate - The PP90M1 is not the best SMG in the game. The SMGs are fairly balanced to each other considering. MP7 & PP90M1 seem to be the most popularly used because they are the ones that were most used at release and are the easiest to "control" when fully auto. If you actually know how to aim with the other SMGs they become quite effective in their respective ways.

bubbacake wrote:

 

OK, IW. You had it your way. Shotguns are rubbish and will remain rubbish until the end of time.

 

However, what you have failed to provide is your team's reasons for not buffing them.

 

Despite the players having given you statistics, video evidence, suggestions, etc. Yet they decide to not buff them and now you are mute on reasons.

 

If you don't give an explanation, that shows 1 or more things.

 

1) IW has some prejudice against shotguns and does not want a fair debate on the subject.

 

2) IW is trying to cater to the brats that cry when they get killed by a shotgun and can't deal with it.

 

And I also love the fact that IW is fine with quickscoping (in fact, encouraging it) and allows a sniper rifle to be a better shotgun than the SPAS-12.

 

"Here's a real shotgun, the Barret 50 Cal., and plus it's semi automatic, so if you go into close range combat, you can use it just like a Striker. Then, it can be used like a Modern Warfare 2 SPAS-12 with its sniping ability."

 

- xcalizorz

The shotguns won't be buffed because they are inconsistent, just like EVERY other gun, due to syncing issues. Pretty obvious.

I hope you realise that the buff we are asking for has a minimum effect on shotgun's range performance.  By only increasing short range damage you do not decrease the number of pellets to kill at max range.  The only effect is that it slightly extends the 3 and 4 pellet kill ranges.  For the spas and ksg the effect would be less than a meter added to the reliable one shot kill range.  3 1/2 feet is nothing.  All our buff proposal will do is make the shotguns more reliable before their damage drop.  That is it.

And I garentee that you will likely never get a one shot like that from the striker again.  The odds that the spread would randomize in such a way so that 5/6 of your pellets would land at that range is in the 100,000's to one. 

Ghandi

Are you guys nerfing dead mans hand's lethal radius or its hitmarker radius?