I agree!! The spawning really sucks.....They do NOT need a patch....They need to throw it in the trash and start over, which they will not do. It is too much work to do it right. They should consider doing it something like Halo used to do, while spawning give you 5 seconds to move around, you can't fire or be fired on....ANYTHING would be better than spawning and being killed right away. Almost everyone is pissed off about the spawn killing, shotguns that can kill you from across the map and even if you are firing first a shotgun wins the fight, unstoppable vests. You would think that the gigantic money they are making off of us on the game purchase, DLC packs and NOW Elite premium costs, that they would listen to the gamers....There are a lot of positives but, the negatives are piling up and all these generations later NOTHING has been done to fix them. I fully expect another BIG promotional saying how they have "fixed" the issues just before the next game release and I expect everyone to be back on this forum screaming about the same problems that have not been resolved.