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Currently Being ModeratedApr 26, 2012 2:24 PM (in response to Lescnet)Re: Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!!
this has been an ongoing issue with scores not counting... this is the first post ive seen recognizing who gets counted and who doesnt by activision... and yes BS
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Currently Being ModeratedApr 26, 2012 2:27 PM (in response to Lescnet)Re: Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!!
Lescnet wrote:
Hello,
Thank you for contacting Call of Duty Elite Support!
You're experiencing no recorded scores for Clan Operations.
When a Clan Leader enlists in an Operation the Clan roster for that operation locks. A player will score for that operation even if they leave the Clan after the clan leader enlists. A player will not score if they join the clan anytime the Clan leader enlisted in the operation.
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This is so BS. Anyone in your clan should be able to play the clan ops at anytime. It shouldn't matter when the clan leader enlists in the clan ops.
We are recruiting for Hardcore Texans on XBOX. We are enlisted in all clan ops. We should be able to have all current and future clan members score count. We had 3 premium members play a clan ops and it wasn't counted.
What do you y'all think?
It's not BS... they lock in who counts for what clan when the clan signs up.
How in the world is that unfair?
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Currently Being ModeratedApr 26, 2012 6:38 PM (in response to rankismet)Re: Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!!
Yea i thought this was general knowledge that was how they determined who to count?
Of course, better communication from Beachhead on questions like this would help a lot, but I guess they'd rather just ignore 500 repeat question threads than give a straight answer to anything.
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Currently Being ModeratedApr 27, 2012 9:15 AM (in response to rankismet)Re: Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!!
Really??? So you're okay with adding players to your clan and not counting their kills. The roster should lock when the clan ops starts not when you enlist.
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Currently Being ModeratedApr 27, 2012 9:20 AM (in response to Lescnet)Re: Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!!
Look, it's a one time thing and now your guys will count towards your next event. This has happened to almost any clan that is pulling guys from another clan.
Now just learn from it. Take into consideration that if you recruited a new dude this week, that person's performance will most likely not count for a the next few events.
We've known this since pretty much the start (we have a few clans that players leapfrog to/from), it's not really that big a deal.
But it would have been nice if EVERYONE or just the clan leader was made aware of this.
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Currently Being ModeratedApr 27, 2012 11:46 AM (in response to otisman666)Re: Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!!
To clarify, your Clan stats count toward the last team you were on during enlistment.
Joining another Clan during a Clan Operation
If you were in Clan A but joined Clan B in the middle of a Clan Operation, only your score with Clan A will count.
Leaving a Clan during a Clan Operation but not joining a new Clan
If you were in Clan A during a Clan Operation but left Clan A before the end of an Operation and didn't join a new Clan, your score will count towards Clan A.
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Currently Being ModeratedApr 27, 2012 3:23 PM (in response to Beachhead)Re: Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!!
Well Beachhead since I have you on this thread. Based on the email sent to me by elite/beachhead.
Once you enlist in a clan ops, any clan members added after enlistment will not count.
This is not true!
On April 22 Lethal Jewelry Clan ops... I enlisted in this clan ops a week prior to this operation. That Sunday morning I added someone to the clan and they participated in the clan ops. Our clan got credit for his kills.
How come we got credit for his kills and we added him after enlistment?
And not the 3 premium members from the previous operation that were added before the operation started?
I understand the part where you can't add someone during an ops. That's obvious.
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Currently Being ModeratedApr 29, 2012 8:47 AM (in response to Beachhead)Re: Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!!
Thank you for clarifying this issue. It is completely fair in any arena that you cannot benefit during an event from the trading or transfer of players from one team to another.
Look at any organized sport. Even betting. You can't pull your bet on a horse halfway through a race.
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Currently Being ModeratedApr 27, 2012 9:25 AM (in response to Lescnet)Re: Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!!
Really????Is it that big of a deal?
There will be many more clan ops for them to count.
Elite is here to stay..
Pick your battles,and this one isnt worth getting upset about..
It is what it is...
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Currently Being ModeratedApr 27, 2012 3:28 PM (in response to wolverinecm71)Re: Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!!
That's not the point. The point is that 3 paying premium members played a 3 hour clan ops and the clan did not get the clan Xp. It shouldn't matter when the clan leader enlist aslong as they join the clan before the clan ops starts. Period! Beachhead got this wrong!
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Currently Being ModeratedApr 27, 2012 10:39 AM (in response to Lescnet)Re: Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!!
Lescnet wrote:
Really??? So you're okay with adding players to your clan and not counting their kills. The roster should lock when the clan ops starts not when you enlist.
Never played sports, huh?
It exactly what happens in sports with teams having to lock in a roster prior to the start of a tournament or playoffs.
It's not unfair.
Jeebus.
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Currently Being ModeratedApr 27, 2012 3:41 PM (in response to rankismet)Re: Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!!
Yeah exactly. Prior to the start of the ops. Elite doesn't do that. It locks it when you enlist. You can enlist a week or a few days in advance it locks your roster. It should lock it an hour or so before the match not when you enlist. Doesn't make sense buddy. Pro teams don't lock a roster until right before the game starts not when the schedule is out.
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Currently Being ModeratedApr 28, 2012 5:07 AM (in response to Lescnet)Re: Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!!
Lescnet wrote:
Yeah exactly. Prior to the start of the ops. Elite doesn't do that. It locks it when you enlist. You can enlist a week or a few days in advance it locks your roster. It should lock it an hour or so before the match not when you enlist. Doesn't make sense buddy. Pro teams don't lock a roster until right before the game starts not when the schedule is out.
what difference does it make.. apart from it stops clans filling up spots with ringers,This is the way they did it it aint gonna change it really makes no difference to anyone . Maybe instead of whining about stuff manage your clan better to start with?
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Currently Being ModeratedApr 28, 2012 11:30 AM (in response to Lescnet)Re: Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!!
so maybe you should try to add players before your leader adds new players. Don't be stupid! Adding players after the fact is stupid as it would skew the results from the op. Do you start a basketball game and then during halftime go out and find some guy out of the stands for a substitution? No you don't because it isn't allowed. Use your freakin head!
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Currently Being ModeratedApr 29, 2012 8:43 PM (in response to Lescnet)Re: Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!!
Im okay with it, because you know there WILL be people out there that just recruits for the ops and then kicks them, its not a good thing to do, and if your clan does it...it should be deleted.
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Currently Being ModeratedApr 27, 2012 9:56 AM (in response to Lescnet)Re: Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!!
I dont see a problem. A clan is supposed to be a roster of about 6 people that you actually know, not large groups of randys.
I wish they would have actual tournaments like Game Battles has, a lot better than the system they set up.
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Currently Being ModeratedApr 27, 2012 11:39 PM (in response to iGet HeadShotZ)Re: Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!!
Well my clan is a small clan. I know all 16 of my clan members. Been playing with them since MW2. So all clan members are important and I would like their kills to count during a 3 hours clan ops. It shouldn't matter when the clan leader enlist. People should be able to be added to participate in the clan ops even after the clan leader enlist in the operation.
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Currently Being ModeratedApr 27, 2012 10:48 AM (in response to Lescnet)Re: Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!!
consider this one of the few things beachhead got right with clan ops, although i would assume its more by accident than design
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Currently Being ModeratedApr 28, 2012 2:21 AM (in response to Lescnet)Re: ((XBOX)) Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!! Beachhead is wrong again.
Quite simply get a better clan leader that will enlist in all the ops. Do it your self, then you will never miss an OP.
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Currently Being ModeratedApr 28, 2012 7:24 AM (in response to smokesdope)Re: ((XBOX)) Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!! Beachhead is wrong again.
That's not the problem buddy. I am the clan leader. We never miss the clan ops. The problem is when you enlist your clan, the roster locks when enlistment. Which is very dumb.
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Currently Being ModeratedApr 28, 2012 11:32 AM (in response to Lescnet)Re: ((XBOX)) Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!! Beachhead is wrong again.
then you are the problem.. get your roster lined out PRIOR to enlisting... as I said in a previous post.. you don't find people out of the stands to fill your basketball roster at halftime.. it's not allowed and nor should it be allowed for you to add people to your roster AFTER signing up for the op.
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Currently Being ModeratedApr 28, 2012 3:46 AM (in response to Lescnet)Re: ((XBOX)) Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!! Beachhead is wrong again.
actually the way they explain it is vague , i will clear it up for everyone...when the enlistment is completed anyone in the clan counts towards it...no matter if its days or hrs before the enlistment period ends...noone who joins after the enlistment has been completed by the clan leader will count...a solution u ask? up until the actual time the event starts the clan leader should be able to unenlist and then reenlist to ensure the roster is up to date and everyones stats count towards it. this shouldnt be rocket science for beachhead to understand. i will say this much tho...im sure i understand why they havent gone to this yet...as glitchy as they know their own site to be i will take a guess and say that they are just saving themselves a huge headache before it happens by not changing it at the moment. im a clan leader and i do this...if i have guys pending to add i do not enlist in any ops at all until I COMPLETE MY NEW ADDITIONS. it ensures that all my guys count in the enlisted op. feel free to flame away if by some chance u are a "waterhead" and cant fathom what i just typed making sense , trust me im used to the idocy that these online competitions brings to us all ;-)
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Currently Being ModeratedApr 28, 2012 11:27 AM (in response to Lescnet)Re: ((XBOX)) Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!! Beachhead is wrong again.
May feel like BS... but here is a hint. It is their service they make the rules regardless if you like them or not. You want to particpate you have to follow them. They are doubtfully ever going to change just to make players like you happy about it.
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Currently Being ModeratedApr 28, 2012 10:55 PM (in response to trialstardragon)Re: ((XBOX)) Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!! Beachhead is wrong again.
Yeah I guess. If people complain enough they will change. Nothing is set in stone!
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Currently Being ModeratedApr 28, 2012 11:02 PM (in response to Lescnet)Re: ((XBOX)) Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!! Beachhead is wrong again.
Lescnet wrote:
If people complain enough they will change.
Not true. They could shut multiplayer off on MW3 tomorrow and everyone could complain all they want and there is nothing any of us could do to change anything. Complaining does nothing more then lets them know about someone. It does not make them change that something though.
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Currently Being ModeratedApr 29, 2012 8:55 AM (in response to Lescnet)Re: ((XBOX)) Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!! Beachhead is wrong again.
That is where you are incorrect. You can complain until you are blue in the face or even purple and they do not have to change a damn thing about the game or the serivce if they chose not too.
People complain every day here about things they do not like and either want added or removed or buffed or nerfed, and very seldom does any of it ever make a difference. The developers chose what they feel is right for the game, and then only use the feedback here if it fits within their ultimate game plan and design for the game. Not just to keep everyone happy all the time.
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Currently Being ModeratedApr 29, 2012 11:01 AM (in response to Lescnet)Re: ((XBOX)) Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!! Beachhead is wrong again.
I'm tired of all the clan spam, so I'm happy the clan operation enlistment works that way. Karma.
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Currently Being ModeratedApr 29, 2012 6:57 PM (in response to twenty620)Re: ((XBOX)) Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!! Beachhead is wrong again.
Yeah I'm tired of clan spam too. Read my clan spam on clan hub. lol
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Currently Being ModeratedApr 30, 2012 6:04 AM (in response to Lescnet)Re: ((XBOX)) Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!! Beachhead is wrong again.
Be it plan or divine intervention the present system is perfect.
If you need to have last minute additions to your clan just don't enlist in the Op until just before it begins. Your problem would be solved.
Some people just don't have a brain cell left.
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Currently Being ModeratedApr 30, 2012 8:19 AM (in response to tallowby)Re: ((XBOX)) Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!! Beachhead is wrong again.
What a genius solution to such a simple problem. You just won the entire interwebs for a day!
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Currently Being ModeratedApr 30, 2012 1:59 PM (in response to trialstardragon)Re: ((XBOX)) Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!! Beachhead is wrong again.
::takes bow::
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Currently Being ModeratedApr 30, 2012 12:25 PM (in response to Lescnet)Re: ((XBOX)) Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!! Beachhead is wrong again.
Just isnt a huge issue. The new recruits miss one clan op? who cares.
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Currently Being ModeratedApr 30, 2012 1:19 PM (in response to Lescnet)Re: ((XBOX)) Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!! Beachhead is wrong again.
Typical IW, things just aren't getting fixed, and you aren't getting ur moneys worth.
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Currently Being ModeratedApr 30, 2012 1:27 PM (in response to MLGTWISTED)Re: ((XBOX)) Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!! Beachhead is wrong again.
IW don't run elite it's beach head it's in the title.
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Currently Being ModeratedApr 30, 2012 8:08 PM (in response to MLGTWISTED)Re: ((XBOX)) Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!! Beachhead is wrong again.
Typical mlg wannabe player that does not know what they are talking about, not even knowing which company is responsible for how elite works...
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Currently Being ModeratedMay 1, 2012 5:11 PM (in response to Lescnet)Re: ((XBOX)) Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!! Beachhead is wrong again.
Stop using the sport's team analogy. It's not the same thing. When the schedule comes out; their roster does not lock. Sport teams are able to change the roster/lineup right up to start of the game.
Elite locks when you enlist in the clan ops. Which sucks! It should let you add people to your clan right up to the start of the clan op.
It's doesn't even matter at the moment because beachhead sucks. Once again no clan ops.
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Currently Being ModeratedMay 1, 2012 5:03 PM (in response to Lescnet)Re: ((XBOX)) Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!! Beachhead is wrong again.
Lets look at it like this. It is Beachhead's rules. They have it so you can not sign up a ringer in the middle of a clan op to help you out. It is not a big deal. No matter how much you whine and complain nothing will change. Is it really hurting not having clan ops for one week? Patience is key.
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Currently Being ModeratedMay 1, 2012 5:12 PM (in response to Rednecksniper39)Re: ((XBOX)) Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!! Beachhead is wrong again.
Smart guy.... I'm not talking about the middle of the clan op. I'm talking about before start of the clan op.
Do you work for beachhead because you sure do defend them??!!!
Yes, it hurting our clan if we don't have a clan op. Our clan is not ranking up. lol If they can have lone wolves.. they can have clan ops.
Do you like paying for a product/service that doesn't deliver??
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Currently Being ModeratedMay 1, 2012 5:13 PM (in response to Lescnet)Re: ((XBOX)) Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!! Beachhead is wrong again.
But if you sign up then that's it you cant add other players they will have to wait till the next one .What's so hard to understand its their rules.
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Currently Being ModeratedMay 1, 2012 5:15 PM (in response to smokesdope)Re: ((XBOX)) Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!! Beachhead is wrong again.
Because he is a little kid who wants attention. He doesn't want to follow the rules that are right in front of his face.
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Currently Being ModeratedMay 1, 2012 5:14 PM (in response to Lescnet)Re: ((XBOX)) Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!! Beachhead is wrong again.
I'm getting my DLC. I've competed in Clan and lone wolfs ops so it is working. I can still do everything else that was promised with Elite. No where did they say they were going to or had to have a clan op every week. Just because you bought it and it is not what YOU think it should be does not mean that it is not delivering the right service. You are trying to make a big deal out of nothing. They should lock your roster when you sign up for the game. That way (as I and others have said) You don't go out and get a ringer just for that op only to kick him after. If is that big a deal to you then stop signing up for the ops so early. Wait till a few hours before.
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Currently Being ModeratedMay 1, 2012 5:21 PM (in response to Rednecksniper39)Re: ((XBOX)) Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!! Beachhead is wrong again.
I don't add random people to our clan. My clan has about 20 members. I have played with these people since MW2.
I understand the rules smart guys. I just disagree with them.
I'm sure Redneck you are receiving a paycheck from beachhead. haha
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Currently Being ModeratedMay 1, 2012 5:45 PM (in response to Lescnet)Re: ((XBOX)) Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!! Beachhead is wrong again.
Lescnet wrote:
I'm sure Redneck you are receiving a paycheck from beachhead. haha
Ignorance my friend. That right there makes everything you say invalid if you think that just because I am telling you that there is nothing wrong with the rules that I am paid by them.
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Currently Being ModeratedMay 1, 2012 6:00 PM (in response to Rednecksniper39)Re: ((XBOX)) Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!! Beachhead is wrong again.
Right!!! Not going to argue with you man. Go work on your truck buddy.
P.S.
I have the right to disagree with the rules.
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Currently Being ModeratedMay 1, 2012 5:59 PM (in response to Lescnet)Re: ((XBOX)) Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!! Beachhead is wrong again.
Till you become a little more mature I'm done with your post.
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Currently Being ModeratedMay 1, 2012 6:02 PM (in response to Rednecksniper39)Re: ((XBOX)) Did you know this??? I got an email from Elite/Beachhead and it's EFFING BS. Must Read!! Beachhead is wrong again.
I am sorry I'm not mature enough for you buddy. I'm sure you'll find other post to input your intelligent comments.
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