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  • dean66s Apprentice 204 posts since
    Aug 24, 2011
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    30. Apr 17, 2012 5:57 AM (in response to ShankDaddyMack)
    Re: Matchmaking Changes - Lag Compensation

    I agree shank the lag comp or whatever they want to call it is why to aggresive in favour of poor pings. Also I have no beef with Americans or Europeans but from a basic connectivity issue you are just to far away period! It only takes 1 high ping to have all other players artifcially slowed to match the one bad ping, this is very evident when you play on BF3's UK dedicated servers, Americans in these games 99% of the time top the leader boards followed by Europeans. Matchmaking should default to local region first then go by ping within that region, if you want to connect to players outside your region this should be an option you manuallly disable.

     

    I recently upgraded to fibre (bad move gaming wise) so my ping to most parts of the world is ok, so the game for me now is completely unplayable, over the past 3 days I have had one complete game and 5 disconnects after my first death, as you can tell what the game will be like after your first death.

  • gallp13 Master 6,489 posts since
    May 28, 2011
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    31. Apr 17, 2012 6:00 AM (in response to dean66s)
    Re: Matchmaking Changes - Lag Compensation

    Any idea why it disconnects?

  • ShankDaddyMack Expert 195 posts since
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    32. Apr 17, 2012 6:04 AM (in response to gallp13)
    Re: Matchmaking Changes - Lag Compensation

    like i said...its pretty much a buffer between the host and the other players...the comp just attempts to slow the better internet down to make it fair to other ppl with slower connections...problem is that its at the cost of those of us who pay good money for internet...its basically weak upload speeds not download speeds that affect it...also one thing that ppl always forget is that as ur xbox gets older u will notice that it will start to take longer to load dashboard or games or whatever ur doing...those of u who see freezes frequently with loading games or even the elite app or anything else have a failing xbox which will contribute to ur laggy experiences as well...and fyi i have tested my theory out and it is pretty much correct...try this...go into your router page...go to ur qos settings and make it so that ur upload speed for ur xbox does not exceed 250k per second...i will kiss ur ass if u dont benefit from the lag comp in almost 90% of the matches after that...i have multiple xboxes here and have had 2 tags in the same lobby with different settings and ALWAYS the slower connection has better response times as far as in game playing...pay no mind to the green bars in the lobby (ive noticed that whether it says u have 2 bars or 4 u can never use that to judge how ur experience will be). and before someone else wants to correct me I HAVE PUT MY HRS IN ON THIS GAME AND HAVE SEEN JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING U CAN IMAGINE IN ONLINE GAMEPLAY...i have had 2 bars and not been able to buy a kill...i have had 1 bar and absolutely destroyed everyone else and they all had good connections...the problem with the lag comp is that it is SO INTERMITTENT that its sickening...if it was always laggy or always good it would be fine cuz then u could tweak ur own setup to get it under control but unfortunately u cant...about the only thing u can do is decrease the upload to ur xbox to no less than 250k per second and see how it acts for u...if that doesnt help u out at all then u have some other issue than lag comp goin on...those of u with multiple xboxes try this...put both in a private match...just the 2 tags and noone else...run around all game and dont shoot...just run...when its over u play the game from theater on both consoles and watch the same player , make sure u start both at the same exact time and watch and learn...even in the same house and on the same network U WILL SEE LAG COMP AT WORK...try it and be amazed how horrible it is...remember not to use system link...do a private match so that u are usin live to connect both xboxes in the lobby

  • gallp13 Master 6,489 posts since
    May 28, 2011
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    33. Apr 17, 2012 6:09 AM (in response to ShankDaddyMack)
    Re: Matchmaking Changes - Lag Compensation

    Thx for the post

  • ShankDaddyMack Expert 195 posts since
    Feb 17, 2012
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    34. Apr 17, 2012 6:12 AM (in response to capp00)
    Re: Matchmaking Changes - Lag Compensation

    gallp my guess is lost packets on their end...i know my connection runs at about 99.5% efficiency most of the time which means very few dropped packets and i have tested it randomly when i have lag issues on this game and it has been within that range so it has to be on their end...my guess is this...the lag comp has a hard time buffering connections to the host for ppl with horrible pings so what happens is this...the better ur ping the faster they can register hits to u...and if they have horrible ping THE SLOWER U REGISTER UR HITS...which is why u will get killed first then see them die immediately after sometimes...and i hear ya dean...i feel the same way u do...i could care less where u are as long as the gameplay isnt laggy...but yea if ur upload is at the bare minimum of 250k per second it seems to benefit u...tested it enough and it worked that way for me...got the idea from this video and he was correct in that respect...all in all i think they really wont ever do anything to totally fix it cuz of one simple fact , THEY ARE TRYING TO GET MORE AND MORE PPL TO PLAY THIS GAME AND IF THEY CATER TO THOSE OF US WITH GOOD INTERNET THEY WILL LOSE CUSTOMERS...just my thought and im sure some will disagree but i dont think they really care at all..they just wanna find a happy medium to shut us all up and rake in all that cash :-|

  • gallp13 Master 6,489 posts since
    May 28, 2011
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    35. Apr 17, 2012 7:02 AM (in response to ShankDaddyMack)
    Re: Matchmaking Changes - Lag Compensation

    Thx once again, I appreciate your time and effort in posting.

     

  • dean66s Apprentice 204 posts since
    Aug 24, 2011
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    36. Apr 17, 2012 6:16 AM (in response to gallp13)
    Re: Matchmaking Changes - Lag Compensation

    Should make that clearer it does not disconnect me, I leave the game because you can get a general feeling of how the game is running by the why you die the first couple of times.

  • ShankDaddyMack Expert 195 posts since
    Feb 17, 2012
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    37. Apr 17, 2012 6:16 AM (in response to capp00)
    Re: Matchmaking Changes - Lag Compensation

    and just an fyi , im on 14 meg download and 5 meg upload with 99.5% packet throughput so I SHOULD NOT SEE ANY LAG EVER...wired connection...and i worked in the field with high speed data connections for 6 yrs roughly so i know how it works from 1 end to the other...frontwards and backwards...mind u some of it is hardware issues (xboxes being ready to red light) but most of this i think is just what i said...they could care less about any of us...they just want that cash!

  • nickpeck36 Expert 519 posts since
    Sep 6, 2011
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    38. Apr 17, 2012 6:29 AM (in response to capp00)
    Re: Matchmaking Changes - Lag Compensation

    All I know is, is when I'm running around by myself, half the time I'm running ok and the other half I'm having the "1 sec behind issue".  However, when I'm in a party with my friends the game is damn near unplayable.  We are all in the same damn state and not really that far apart.

     

    I love my scores, solo I do pretty well (but not always) and when I'm with them I can't kill anyone at all as I have rubber bullets loaded.  I really love playing this game and look forward to it every nite but most of the time I just get ticked off and not want to play.

  • acrididae Apprentice 194 posts since
    Aug 4, 2011
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    39. Apr 17, 2012 6:36 AM (in response to capp00)
    Re: Matchmaking Changes - Lag Compensation

    I actually listened to the whole thing. ha ha.I liked the points you guys raised, and enjoyed learning something a little more. Like the other day, I knew Ping had a big deal with things, but I didn't know that having High Ping practically ruins a majority of the experience. Ping tests on desktops are worthless. too bad you couldn't do a ping test on your xbox to get a more well rounded idea on what you're abou to  get into when you get on. ha ha.

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