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  • WongKnife Novice
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    340. Apr 12, 2012 3:21 AM (in response to m337cr3a7iv3)
    Re: Shotgun balance thread

    If they're OP, we wouldn't get point blank hitmarkers with steady aim, try leveling one of the pump actions all the way to lvl 31 and tell me if you think they're OP after that.

  • Brick2urFace Master
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    341. Apr 12, 2012 6:24 AM (in response to m337cr3a7iv3)
    Re: Shotgun balance thread

    I have a sneaking suspicion that you may not have used the shotguns much.

  • bubbacake Expert
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    342. Apr 14, 2012 12:05 PM (in response to Brick2urFace)
    Re: Shotgun balance thread

    Man, I forgot.

     

    SIGNED!

     

    PSN: thxnet57

  • WongKnife Novice
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    343. Apr 15, 2012 1:19 AM (in response to Brick2urFace)
    Re: Shotgun balance thread

    Poop > MW3 pump action shotguns, honestly. XD

  • Brick2urFace Master
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    344. Apr 15, 2012 1:14 PM (in response to WongKnife)
    Re: Shotgun balance thread

    Heres an easy argument for why shotguns need a buff.

     

    This is easier and just as effective if not more effective...

     

     

    Than this

     

     

    But this can happen with shotguns...

     

     

    Smgs are just as effective up close as shotguns, but they are infinitely more forgiving because they are automatic, and they also have the ability to kill accross the map.  Smgs have infinitely more flexability than shotguns with all of their close range effectiveness and no reliability issues.

  • WongKnife Novice
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    345. Apr 16, 2012 12:13 AM (in response to Brick2urFace)
    Re: Shotgun balance thread

    Yeah that's the thing, shotguns have not a single advantage in close range over any SMG, they shoot faster, they kill in about 3 bullet. Shotguns shoot slow (except the striker and AA12 but that's another story) Usas doesn't really shoot that fast. I used the PP90 for 2 games and I almost got a MOAB and I got my Specialist bonus in my first life. -___- Can't do that with the shotguns, not saying the PP90 is OP, it's not, the shotguns are just so weak that there is not a single advantage for using it in close range.

  • Brick2urFace Master
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    346. Apr 16, 2012 8:01 AM (in response to WongKnife)
    Re: Shotgun balance thread

    That pp90 clip of mine wasn't even with rapid fire on.  Just red dot and extended mags.  It doesn't make sense for a gun that can shoot out to infinity to out perform a gun that can only shoot 700 inches in that 700 inch range.  But it is extremely clear from that clip that smgs are far easier to use and are just as effective if not more simply because the bs hitmarkers don't exist and your aim can be terrible with smgs and it doesn't matter.

  • Brick2urFace Master
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    347. Apr 16, 2012 8:20 PM (in response to WongKnife)
    Re: Shotgun balance thread

    Shotguns are crazy good fun when they work. 

     

     

     

    Specialist goes a long way to save shotgun, but even with damage and range and all the other proficiencies shotguns can still be inconsistent as hell.

     

  • Brick2urFace Master
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    348. Apr 17, 2012 12:01 PM (in response to Brick2urFace)
    Re: Shotgun balance thread

    If you know what you are doing the spas is capable of some crazy long shots even with only damage on. 

     

     

    But this is far more likely to happen.

     

  • WongKnife Novice
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    349. Apr 18, 2012 12:50 AM (in response to Brick2urFace)
    Re: Shotgun balance thread

    It's so stuupid, that's what I hate, I can go like 30-5 in KC with the Spas and the next game I'll go like 20-15, with the Striker I do well pretty consistant which is why I like it, you canrely on it.

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