Most people dont understand ballistic vests.  They give you 50 extra health, but shots that hit the vest do int overlap to normal health this means that it will take two hits to remove the vest with most guns before you even start doing normal damage.  This is why a ~200 damage sniper headshot still doesnt kill, since it only damages the vest.  For this reason it is much more useful in hardcore, since it nearly tripples your health, as well as making you impossable to one shot, except with shotguns, whch can damage both the vest and normal health in one shot.

wraithoverlord wrote:

 

I did notice that if I took a hit and survived in hardcore without a vest and then proceeded to pick one up my health would regenerate.

You still have less total health than someone who has not taken any damage and then puts a vest on. The vest adds 50 "shield" (think of it like halo) and 50 health. By adding 50 health after taking damage, you were healed enough to clear the blood off your screen but you still did not fully regenerate.

As to the argument, I am pro-vests in Hardcore and think they are fine, but understand the frustration. It would make sense if headshots were a counter to vests. I don't think the way they coded them would support that change, unfortunately.

to me, the ballistic vest is the biggest failure in mw3...

1. the vest is available too easy, 5 kills, no matter if you died or not

2. if the vest would be a "vest" would be less a problem, but played yesterday and one survived a DIRECT RPG-SHOT with it, so it's laughable to call it a "vest", as it's more a "tank"-top lol !!!

3. the vest is totally unbalanced, as sometimes a full clip shot is enough and sometimes not

4. as said above, it's ridiculous to say it shouldn't prevent from headshots, as this stupid thing saves you already from a RPG or even claymores !!! (IW, please, if there's a vest like this on the market, I WANT ONE !!!!)...also was sitting in an osprey and needed a 100000000 shots to finish off a vest-suited-enemy, what a joke :/

5. another point to me is, at hctdm it could be okay, but to me playing mostly s&d, it's annoying, as you can save your bullets for yourself to suicide, the round where vest shown up

so again for me vests are totally fail, how pity, that i can't upload my clips from vault to youtube, to give you a view and proof of the incredible, ridiculous things i experianced with vests...as said before, try always to take things as they are without criticizing, but the vest is a joke in my opinion, as it's surely made of kryptonite...

see, i don't care for every word clowns come up with, but i just think, that the vests are not what they should be...can't get 5 kills? hahaha lolololol, as said, you funny, a clown

yes, could use them too, and if someone throws them, i take one, but it doesn't change the fact, that in MY OPINION i don't like them, because  i believe a vest should protect body and not HEAD, and also think a vest  doesn't protect from RPG, OSPREY, CLAYMORE and also PAVE LOW...so i criticize the developers for not balancing the vest, if they want to include them, as i mostly just miss the realism on them...simple as that...

and as said, in a game-mode like s&d, where you have only ONE life per round, i simply think, it DESTROYS a little this gametype, as the vest takes TOO MUCH INFLUENCE in this game-mode...sure, everyone could equip vests and run around with them in s&d, but i doubt that this helps to balance a good competition, when vests can decide about a win or loss in a round, and especially when there's no normal killstreak needed to get them, as even a noob like you can get them, Got it? (to use the language you know best)

p.s. doesn't it make a stubborn of you, not to accept others opinion? or at least, read them, think about it and THEN responding  with a little MORE wisely talk instead of just filling lines with pure stupidity?

Have to agree if you get a head shot it should kill its a vest not a Jugg suit. Played Hc in the clan ops and dam got my ass handed to me lol I really rely on my mini map to much was even flicking the big map on and off lol I think I'll stick to core.