There already is 2 counters to assassin as it stands. The perk was already split into 2  because of moaning red dot chasers. Ive always said that there would be no need for assassin if there were not UAV spammed every game. People ask, why do you need to be invisible?, well i ask why do you have to see me on your mini map?

Not knocking your suggestion btw but i would have BE and assassin still in 2 different perks but maybe with the counters that you suggest.

This is not directed at the OP just my general thoughts on the subject as it comes up so much.

I prefer to not chase red dots and rely on my mini map as my counter to assassin. Check your corners/camp spots and move forward. If you are camping and complain about assassin users sneaking up on you then I dont feel sorry for you.

I just dont see what all the fuss is about assassin I mean the people using it still show up as actual people on your screen It is not like it gives them a chamelon like apperance that blends in with what is directly behind them.

To the OP

I do like the idea of making Blind Eye and Assassin in the same perk slot to make people choose which one they want to use.

To me blind eye is more frustrating than assassin, nothing like calling in a predator against a full party and not seeing one red square.

I don't see how "Stopping Power ruined CoD". That is the dumbest statement I've read so far about the perk. Stopping Power balanced the Cold-Blooded element of the game, because it created a level-field - because more than everyone was using the perk. How can something be "overpowered" if everyone is using it and it creates a balance in gun fights? Also, saying that the SCAR-H or the TAR-21 is "overpowered" is ridiculous, because last I checked, the guns in MW2 killed at about the same rate, so... don't know where you guys are getting that information from.

Anyways, regarding the thread, there's a few ways to balance out Assassin:

• Bring back Stopping Power, and place it in the same tier slot as Assassin
• Split the perk in half, as Blind Eye did, but keeping Blind Eye in the same tier slot as Assassin
• Reduce the effects of Assassin

I personally would love to welcome juggernaut back into COD.  Imagine the rage and crying from quickscopers when they get the + sign lol.

I didn't call Stopping Power overpowered. This is directed at bubbacake. Although I agree with you. To say that killing in one less bullet is overpowered is ridiculous, despite the fact that Cold-Blooded made you immune to air support, sentries, and thermal. Also, redx165, I can say the same thing about MW2 or Black Ops, in comparison to perks. You're pushing it when you say that players didn't camp in Black Ops for Attack Dogs, you're crossing the line there, especially since the Combat Card viewed the type of player one was.

Here is a fix for assasin and stopping power haters, Play Hardcore. The more people that play it, the more game modes the devs will make for hardcore.

In HC Stopping power is a wasted perk, guns are already 1-4 shot kills,

Unless there is a UAV Assassin is useless, for the most part.

What would specialist be like with ..

SP, Jugg, and assasin??

I thik theres your problem.  Guys running specialist would be on beast mode all of the time.