Mar 26, 2012 7:41 AM
A 50 CALIBER SNIPER RIFLE SHOULD BLOW ARMS AND LEGS OFF!!!!
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I AM JUST WONDERING WHY IT TAKES MORE THAN ONE BULLET (SOMETIMES 3)WITH A 50 CALIBER SNIPER RIFLE TO KILL SOMEONE WHILE I HAVE SEEN A LITTLE PP 90 KILL ME WITH 2 BULLETS IN THE KNEE WITH A SILENCER ON??????WTF..............
Uhhh...
1. No way a PP90M1 could kill in two bullets to the knee with a suppressor. Base damage is 42. All a silencer does on anything except for a sniper is decrease rage for max damage.
2. Having the .50 cal or any sniper get a OSK to the limbs would be ridiculously overpowered.... the .50 cal already has a good fire rate and low enough recoil, so if you could get a OSK to the limbs it would be ridiculously OP.
3. Turn your caps lock off
yes the pp 90 killed me with 2 bullets in the knee........unless it was a lag or the player was cheating im not sure but....a 50 cal. bullet is bigger than my finger so when i shoot a guy in the chest or even the stomach it should only take one shot
It's not possible for a PP90M1 to kill you with two shots unless you were headshot or you were already damage...there is no way for it to get above 42 damage and you have 100 at full health...note that kill cams aren't perfect (if you notice, type 95 doesn't sound like a 3 burst shot in killcams).
Sure it would suck to take a .50 cal bullet in real life, but their nature in this game has entirely to do with balance. Hell, even an SVD could kill you with a shot to the stomach or chest, but it doesn't for balance, because it has 90% mobility and semi automatic feeding. If you add more OSK areas to the Barrett it would become OP, and if you add more OSK areas to all snipers they would all be OP...think of how easy it would be to quickscope.
all i am saying i when i shoot a guy in the chest with a 50 cal. sniper rifle he should not be able to shoot me and kill me by the time i fire another shot
Well if you're getting killed by a PP90 you're way to close to your target to be using a sniper lol...if you're quickscoping at least use a bolt action...
a 50 cal rifle should take longer to ADS as it is heavy and monsterous. It should also kick as hard as a 12 or 10 guage shot gun. That is of course if you really wanted to get modern and realistic about it.
Has anyone shot a 50 cal before? It is very punishing. I myself own a Smith and Wesson 500 4.5 inch and kicks much harder than me DE and my 12 guage.
Barret should be a one hit kill no matter where it hits. What ever that 50 cal would hit in terms of the body, that body part would disappear. Blood loss , etc..... Its a one hit kill. There would be no recovery from that.
yeah right dude my uncle has been to iraq i have seen cellphone vids a sniper rifle doesn't need 3 shots in real life. if call of duty wants to be better then battlefield 3 lmao make a osk sniper its only basing off real life isn't that what there aiming for? why make a game that is completely fake and cal it real? hypocritical out the ass if you ask me. ive had kids online tell me that call of duty mw3 is so real it should be the "number one" warfare game *cough* my ass. if a pp9om1 can kill people in two shots with a silencer but a sniper get asteriks? sign up call of duty to fight our real life battles with there 3 shot snipers lmao
You both make valid points. I agree that the snipers should realistically all kill in one shot, but they won't do that because of how easy they have made it to snipe in this game. Esy was right about the balance issues. They could make the sniper rifles realistic in one shot kills, but then they would have to change how sniping works in the game for balance. They would have to incorporate lead, lag, drop, cold bore, etc.... Otherwise, all anyone would use would be sniper rifles because they kill in one shot.
Exactly. It's all about balance. It's bad enough there are quickscopers running around getting OSK's with sniper rifles up close, but at a distance to mangled by such a weapon (in a video game) doesn't seem fair.
It is just a video game, after all, so balance is more important than reality.
I'M JUST WONDERING WHY ALL CAPS!?!?
YEAH WASTE YOUR TIME TRYING TO READ THIS!
Fun > realism in my opinion. That being said, I would like to see dismemberment following lethal shots like in WaW.
Indeed, what happend to the good days when i got to blow someones arms or legs off. It was more rewarding when I landed a long shot with the PTRS. Bettys and Nades too, red mist everywhere. Sigh.....
It was either
A: Some kids mom got mad because of it
B: The dev team cried when they thought of dismembering their precious, calculated 3d models.
Im guessing A. Although this game is rated M, im sure that parents would be hesitant to buy their kid this game if a limb fell off every now and then. We all know that money talks, and a huge portion of the sales are from parents buying their 12 yr old mw games. Activision goes where the green is.
Go play hc if you want to land a osk everytime. Otherwise these guys are right about the balance issue. But in my opinion A strategic unbalance makes the game better, Not in this case but with stopping power. I miss that perk.
WE ALL KNOW YOU ARE UPSET BUT CAPS LOCK WONT HELP ANYTHING.
I think that the gore from World at War didn't add to anything...just that the little kids thought it was cool.
As for the OP...realism is not really something that should be discussed in a FPS...if so, we would only be able to play until our first death, and then we would have to sell the game...because in real life, you don't respawn.
lmao this guy hit the nail on the head. agreed 100% people cant talk realism in call of duty if it has 3 shot snipers. forget balance equality cold bore and all the other stuff make the game how it is presented to the public. just like mcdonalds you see there food on t.v. it looks delicious but in reality its sloppy proccessed fat fake beef and poultry
well if a weapon is to strong maybe they should replace it and not put it in the game?right?
If he had rapid fire on the pp90 in kill cams shoots 2 bullets at a time. And cod isn't about realism at all. Hit marker problems exist on other weapons as well (see shotguns for more details) If they used nameless unpopular weapons then it would be harder to sell.
We need the gore we had WAW. That was awesome.
I miss that part of the game too. Added authenticity in what you were doing. My best memories when thinking about W@W were with the MG42. That thing was a beast! Getting into those situations when a group of enemy soldiers are charging you and boom, you open up with the 'buzz saw'. Now that was gore!
I would rather deal with the realities of a real sniper rifle dealing with lead and drop off then quickscoping. But here, a knife is stronger than a .50 cal round.
Yes, but then they shot you with the other "good arm".And... a 50 cal rifle shouldn't be able to be quick scoped! A real barret is only fired prone, period.
You are forgetting a very important fact:
This is a video game, not real life.
actually a real barret can be fired crouching or "cougard" position but the recoil is enough to knock you unconcious so goodluck but other then that i agree 100% a real barret cant be quick scoped? lmao the guy would kill himself off recoil before he raised the fuckin scope hahaha
i saw something about high velocity bullets years ago, instantly killing people shot in the arm or leg due to hydrostatic shock. look it up. a .50 cal is not a sniper rifle but an anti-materiel weapon, which should be ohk no matter what. but of course, there is nothing realistic about cod, never was.
its way to comic-y hence they should regret comparing it to battlefield and any other game thats considered warfare like medal of honor. the old call of dutys were the **** not compared to these mw3 and black ops now a days kids break these games down like candy for what extra points? get laid, esp whoever created map spawn points on mw3 ive never seen so much spawn camping/killing in my damn life
Oh, how i miss the flying body-parts from World at War. THAT was realistic.
Loved the part at Khe Sahn where Mason pulls the pins of the VC soldier that tries to kill him, he blows up, and leaves his feet and ankles behind still standing, lol.
I am with you about the sniper rifles I get a center mass shot and some times I have to put two in the chest not quit right. they should find a way to balence them out and allow for more 1 shot center mass kills "even slower movement or what not...", but that is the least of our problems if this isn't dealt with soon!!!! -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caY0_jVGOQ0
well now every sniper but the rsass is a OHK as long as your not me
It should kill in 1 shot, but then you will have those QuickScopers...
It's the trade off for being able to run around with that thing. Saw a video of someone shooting it from a standing position on youtube. Took him about about 30 seconds to lift the gun to the correct position, brace himself and aim before he took his shot. Imagine if you had to do that in this game. Not to forget that you are able to spam it from the hip and quickscope with it. More than fair trade off for a few hitmarkers if you ask me.
WKMMS i agree it is a trade off i have stated in other post this is not a simulation game. If it were the amount of people playing would drop off dramtically. No bullet drop,wind caculations, picking which rounds to use in the Barret. etc.
yeah it should blow your limbs off, but also shouldnt be able to hit you when you are less than a foot or so close to the guy, the rifle itself is bigger...and how bout the scope? it shouldnt be able to get a hit if he barely looked in to it, as far as i recall snipers stay even days waiting for a mark and they have someone to help with the calculations and so on...i agree compleatly with Monty here, not a simulation. if it was we wouldnt have that many 13 years old running like lemings with a .50cal tossing flares everywhere.
You cant run around with a 50 cal shooting it like a sub, games not realistic, wish it was.
COD 4, the .50 cal with steady aim pro was almost like a shotgun, but more powerful...Strangley accurate as well.
An AA-12 should blow arms and legs off...
definitely... but could you imagine if that gun was more true to life in this game.... the nerf cries would be deafening!
LOL it would be definatly interesting to read the forums.
You can shoot someone in the face with a shotgun and they can just walk away.
No headshot multiplier is homo :/ And really doesn't make sense
Yeah ive thought about the outrage of a true to life AA-12 in this game lol.
Ive noticed that there is no headshot multiplier, I constantly shoot headglitchers right in the face and get 2-3 hitmarkers with a USAS. The even flinch 3 times and there screen gets more red with each hit. The only explaination is there is no etra damage from a shotty headshot and I only hit the dude with one pellet on each shot lol.
Exactly. Shotguns don't have headshot multipliers. Maybe they thought it would be OP to 1-shot someone in the head every time. I'd like it though.
They should. Every gun in the real world has its pros and cons which is why the world doesn't have 1 gun. I think they should make it more realistic keeping those pros and cons in mind. A .50 cal should be a 1 hit kill but you should not be able to quickscope with it. That's the trade off. No fast action but it's going to defeat anyone in a single shot.
Shotguns have limited range and accuracy with buckshot but up close it's one of the most devastating things on this planet. No one should survive a point blank shotgun blast. They certainly would not be able to return fire or knife you. They should make weapons more realistic in this sense and leave it up to the player and the way they play to determine what is best for them. Everyone has access to the same weapons. Everyone gets to choose what they want. Slow and powerful up close. Fast and good range. Slow and all powerful. Pick your poison.
Were there really flying body parts in previous CoDs?
I'd love to see a bit of gore...
The kill cams on Sniper Elite v2 are insane...
OT, I'd like to see 1HKs from the 50 cals, but I'd like to see them as a more static gun. They should make you go prone and remove qs from them...
Jus_call_me_J wrote:
Were there really flying body parts in previous CoDs?
I'd love to see a bit of gore...
The kill cams on Sniper Elite v2 are insane...
OT, I'd like to see 1HKs from the 50 cals, but I'd like to see them as a more static gun. They should make you go prone and remove qs from them...
Bingo. I'd gladly accept a higher OHK rate from sniper shots in exchange for vastly degraded QS hit rates/kills. Scope in, put the CH on me... torso/head = alwasy dead. Arm/leg... with Barrett.. 50% dead. Others a little less, but definitely in the "red" when you connect.