Gerbera_Kai wrote:

 

Every single time I decide to pick it up and give it another try, I always end up dropping it not too long after, even when using it ways like trialstar said.

 

Sticking inside buildings and NOT auto-firing it all the time and such makes NO difference whatsoever, especially with all the SMG use there is. SMGs easily kill you with 3 individual bullets while it can take 2-3+ hits from the AA-12, even up close, to kill people and that's on a GOOD day with little to no lag inconsistency screwing with me.

 

If you fire a shotgun at hit a person, full body, nearly point blank and they don't die, then unless the damage is truly REALLY low, which I  doubt, then something is very wrong, lag or otherwise.

 

It's ironic. In real life, the AA-12 is one of the top shotguns in the world, Little to no recoil, very accurate with decent spreading with normal buckshot, effective range of up to 100 meters, and such, Yet that high power seems to made the devs SO paranoid about it that it's been made into one of the worst of ALL weapons in MW3. I mean, I may sound exaggerated, but I feel like I have more luck using non-Akimbo HANDGUNS (even the Desert Eagle) than I do the AA-12.

Yeah its funny how great rifles in real life, are translated into great weapons in CoD, but state of the art shotguns like the AA-12 are reduced to "spitting" range. Also don't feel surprised when someone with akimbo FMG's or even dual pistols kills you before you can kill them, it happens to me a lot, not all the time, but maybe once per occurence, they usually get me the first time, but only once, only that first time.

d8noped8b wrote:

 

Get it through your head, you should NOT need perks/proficencies/attachments to have a gun be worth using!

 

Does a Sub Machine Gun need Rapid Fire/Steady Aim to dominate in CQC? No.

 

Does an Assault Rifle need Kick to maintain accuracy at long range? No.

 

Does a 50. BMG rifle or LMG need Speed to avoid close engagements? No.

 

Does the AA-12 need Scavenger to have prolonged usage like the other weapons in it's category? Yes.
Don't say to not spray as most of the time the first shot will not kill, esspecially without damage (landing 7 out of 8 pellets is a bloody pipe-dream, even while aimed in knife range). The purpose of the AA-12 (Shotguns in general really, but this thread is focused on the AA-12) is to dominate every weapon (save SMGs) in CQC and it fails to do that.

 

It's not that hard to counter a shotgunner, all you have to do is stay away from them and avoid small areas, even with the hallway infested maps, as said hallways are more often than not longer than the range a shotgun offers.

I'm glad to see so many people supporting the cause and realizing that AA-12 is severly dependent on Scavenger to be used longer than a couple kills. Mission comes to mind when you mentioned "hallway infested maps", seems like it would be shotguns galore, but no, its predominately a SMG/AR game if you aren't careful. People will sit on the rubble or by the "B" flag and just puppy guard the corridors, its gets real annoying and thats about the only place on the map where a shotgun has any chance.

Giving the AA-12 some extra ammo would allow players more flexibility, especially those without the damage or range profficiencies. They wouldn't need Scavenger Pro to use it longer than a few kills. It would enable them more adaptability, they could use Blind Eye for taking out air support or Extreme Conditioning for more effecient travel on bigger maps. They could of course, always use Sleight of Hand, because any AA-12 user will tell you that it burns through the magazine really fast.