Mar 5, 2012 9:29 AM
Open Letter to Beachhead regarding Elite Clan Operations
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Dear Beachhead,
Thank you for finally getting clan ops up and running. Although they were rife with cheaters and boosters, they're the reason I paid $50 to become a Founder (not the DLC). (Four months ago.) I enlisted my clan in each and every clan operation posted, even though most of my guys (out of 90+) don't like core at all. We weren't given a choice. If core was the only option, then we were going to play core. We just wanted to compete for something meaningful (which is XP, for now). With you deciding to "remove" the Co-Op Warriors event because it was a "mistake," you are committing an even greater injustice. Not counting ANYONE's stats for a three hour competition (which was bloody early, by the way) just makes people who are thin on faith to begin with even thinner. I have taken the "keep the faith" mentality through these last four months, when it didn't look like we'd ever get clan ops. How did you reward my faith? By TRICKING me into getting up at 5:30am for an event that didn't count because it was a MISTAKE. Really? Really? THAT is how you repay faith? Betrayal?
I recruited for my clan, trying to get those who preferred pretty much every gametype and mode. I was successful in filling our ranks to 100 a couple of times (losing members for various reasons). However, when I did that, I believed that eventually you would provide the service I paid my money for and told my guys exactly the same. "Be patient... they will get this squared away and it'll be awesome." Ah, but I was a fool. If you decide to remove even ONE of the competitions for clan ops that YOU posted, then you are voiding the last portion of faith I have in Elite. There is ZERO reason to say it doesn't count. If that's the stance you have on enlistments, then why are there enlistments in the first place? People compete to prove themselves against others. That MW3 is rife with cheaters does not matter to a competitive gamer. That gamer knows there are cheaters and boosters out there, but that he can still acheive gold with a maximum effort. When you yank the rug out from under their feet, who is going to stand anywhere near you again? Do NOT take that competition away, or else you are throwing away what little bit of patience left we have.
The easy solution: Bite the bullet, and give the clans the medal/XP you said they earned. Don't name a winner. Don't post the results page. Fine. Just give the medal the initial finish that was shown on Elite. Simple. And it's done and over with. No one complains. Don't give a blanket XP reward for everyone. Give everyone what they've been expecting and shut up about it. Else you lose MORE face and appear to be less competent. Coming out ten days after an event and saying it doesn't count and that posting it was a mistake? It took that long to figure out? Just shut up about it and give the XP you owe to the people who competed and earned medals. Sticking your head in the sand and saying it didn't happen is only going to make you look foolish. If your company is made of gamers, then do this for the gamers who pay your salary. Give us the XP and medals we are owed for YOUR mistake.
I know you were handed a dog's dinner with this job, and you've made progress. But it isn't enough to progress. You need to take care of those paying for this service. And taking a competition away is anything but. If you are gamers, you'll know what I mean.
Sincerely,
SilentDeath HBI, leader of HeadBusters, Inc
Also waiting for an answer.
I agree, they made the mistake and people woke up early to take part in this clan op. I woke at 4:50am to do this on a Sunday! I did this during coverage of the Daytona 500 which means the world to me! Granted it didn't run that day but I was super tired throughout the day and even more so Monday morning as I dragged myself to work. My clan got Silver, which isn't a big deal but we want those 500XP points that we earned. We don't even care for the medal but when this is the only way to level up clans, judging by participation, a lot of clans did the same.
Please give us our points. We already lost our money on Elite, please don't make us lose sleep over it too for nothing.
Why in the world would you get up that early to play a video game?
I've accepted the fact that MW3 and Elite are total jokes. The people that worked on these should be ambarrassed. The sad thing is this will all happen again when Black Ops 2 is released. Activision is laughing and they could care less about your rants.
i cant come on elite why
It's one thing, rediculous as it was, to take almost four months to provide clan ops. Not to mention that all clan ops ended up being was lone wolf ops. Simply adding scores of clan members for the final out come! But now they blatantly lie about the posting of an op, that they clearly can not handle, or do not want to handle, the work required to verify. As a result, we are being robbed of three hours of our life, pure n simple. This is by far the biggest and most unacceptable thing Beachhead has done to us yet!
I can't express my, and my clans disgust.
What about the next op? Are you willing to play a game mode that you do not care for,....for three hours straight.....and HOPE, you get XP?
I completely agree with you. I was trying to be positive about things as they stand. Beachhead is overwhelmed with the scope of the job they took on, and I just hope they'll curb the instincts they have to compound mistakes with larger ones. Hopefully, they'll take this into account. (I have learned that holding one's breath for anything regarding Elite is a poor choice.)
Well said my friend you speak for many!
It sounds to me that a lot of you are being very irrational. Yes we have not received our clan xp. No clan has, so everyone is still on the same playing field. So stop actig as if your special. Nothing has changed. So you cannot yet complain because they have not awarded any clan yet.
When they are ready they will award it.
My clan Mi7 won 2 gold and 1 champion badge on the ps3 clan operations and you don't see me insulting Beachhead. Give them time.
Joker, Elite launched in November. It's now March. They've had more than enough time. I wouldn't be surprised if more and more people demand refunds and file complaints with the Better Business Bureau.
What OP did you win Champion on? I hope it was the TDM Op, because that Op was mistake, NO XP NO BADGE NO CHAMPION.....Chew on that!
I'm not happy waiting over 11 days for the results of the first OP. I have every right to "*****." BUT what about getting up early on Sunday morning, the whole clan, playing for 3 straight hours and then being told it was all for NOTHING! As I see it, there was a promise made, and implied reward for said action, they owe us all 3 hours of our time. Maybe for some that is 3x minimum wage, but for me it is more that most make in a week!
They aren't telling the whole truth anyways about the whole boosting thing.
It doesn't take 1 1/2 weeks to run through the first few hundred clans to find someone not boosting.
There's something else going on they won't tell us.
I'm sure boosting plays a part, but they aren't telling us everything.
exactly i have been waiting for the xp and telling my clan it will come and i also won gold which gets me mad and everyone else mad.so tell me why we wake up at 6 in thhe morning thats a shame activision.
What I would also like to know is why NO ONE in the media is talking about this? G4TV? Millions of people watch the game shows about new games and gaming news,...yet nothing! Try to find a gamer web site that is popular and doing stories on this!!!!!! NONE! Why, because if they do, they get black listed!
One story in the popular media and this will explode!
One thing we can do is go to every online retailer and describe the service and what we think of it. If enough of us do it may actually get back to activision is lack of sales figures, if people are dissuaded from buying elite.
As we've updated in this thread where information regarding rescheduled operations is posted:
The Co-Op Warriors Clan Operations 910 & 911 listed below do count. Winners have been verifiied and prizing is being distributed. For certain users who have have not received their Clan Operations prizing, we're pushing a hotfix later today to address this issue and will update here in the forums and on Twitter as soon as it's live.
Co-Op Warriors, 360, 2.26, Start time: 4:00am
https://elite.callofduty.com/compete/clan/events/view/910
Co-Op Warriors, PS3, 2.26, Start time: 5:00am
https://elite.callofduty.com/compete/clan/events/view/911
Co-Op Warriors Clan Operations 893 & 894 were the test Clan Operations that were inadvertantly published and do not count. This was due to an admin level issue and we've taken measures to ensure that it doesn't occur again. Our apologies for the inconvenience.
Co-Op Warriors, 360, 2.26
https://elite.callofduty.com/compete/operations/view/894
Co-Op Warriors, PS3, 2.26
https://elite.callofduty.com/compete/operations/view/893
Beachhead
on my computer the 3 clan operations appear blank and i cant click on them
My Clan received its XP a little while ago.. Thank you
i cant post comments on my clans page but i can on other forums plz help
Until stats can be accurately tracked, these competitions are skewered and pointless anyway. You guys complain about not getting XP won, atleast your stats show up on the leaderboard.
i am having the same problem clan ops is blank whats up with that and some other minor issues on i.e while creating ebmlems or posting a comment will not save or send.
if clan ops is fully functional hows come i can not see or click on or hover over it to see if i can click on it.
Can somebody please fill me in about whats going on thanks.
Im currently still waiting for my xp on mw3 for my clan. I got two gold medals and it hasnt done anything
I lead a clan of 50, which could easily be 150 the way we have to turn down members for one reason or another and it's garbage. We play HXC and all we get is core challenges (if any at all) I paid my 60 bucks for the clans, honestly I wouldn't have probably bought the maps by this point because all my friends are playing ME3, times up, they failed to provide, no one is taking responsibility, talking publically or offereing refunds/compensation. Stop trying to brush this under the rug we are OWED honesty, you took our money and didn't deliever.
The whole entire setup of Elite is a complete fail. When i first heard about Elite I was expecting Clan VS Clan ****. Instead there competitions are not Clan VS Clan and they score the ops by taking the 6 best players scores. That's not team play at all. I basically spent 4000 points on early map releases. Can't wait for Halo 4 now! **** Beachhead and **** all the future COD titles.
we got trolled by admin issues
uuuuunbelievable
Over two months ago, I started this thread. Since then, Beachhead reversed its position and actually gave the clans the XP and badges they earned. However, we're back to the same situation all over again. Why is it that they learned not to do that to us then, but are going to go ahead and do this to us now? I hate to say it, but this isn't going to get better. I had hopes that things would improve, but Beachhead has proven time and again it is incapable of providing the service that many of us paid hard earned money for. Damn shame. ELITE could have been so incredibly awesome had it been done correctly. Oh well.
Will there be any more options for Clan Ops besides KC, TDM and DOM? Will Team Defender, Drop Zone, Headquarters or Demolition become Clan Ops?
I had forgotten all about this thread. I doubt that this would be the place to post those ideas (although I think they're great ideas). You might have better luck starting a new thread.