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Currently Being ModeratedRe: Petition to buff spas, ksg, and 1887
They only gave a slight buff to the spas 12, the rest were nerfed or unchanged in the case of the 1887. And the spas "buff" was really a mix of nerfs and buffs. The spas now is a lot weaker up close now and better at range. Its a trade off but it is definitely less reliable up close now. You get a good amount of bs hitmarkers. And if the dude has ballistic vest on you will die.
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Currently Being ModeratedRe: Petition to buff spas, ksg, and 1887
We finally got done with our testing so here is the real stats for all shotguns post "buff"
spas 12= 30-14 base damage.
1887= 30-20 damage was abosolutely unchanged.
ksg12= 28-15, 9 pellets made standard. Damage unchanged.
usas12= 25-5 9 pellets standard. Damage unchanged.
aa12= 15-5, slightly faster raise and drop time and reduced recoil. AA12 has been nerfed really hard with the removal of emags.
striker= 25-15, can only shoot 6 pellets, increased recoil, firecap lowered.
In summery the spas 12 was the only shotgun that recieved any damage buff. The increased damage at range is nice but at the cost of close range reliability its not a great improvement. The rest were nerfed or unchanged from their fulley leveled versions pre patch. We want IW to re-examine shotguns. The "buff" has done nothing to help people who had already leveled their shotguns. We are upset at IW with how they handled these so we are bringing the topic back up now that we are done. Please post ideas and opinions to help spread shotgunner's plight.
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Currently Being ModeratedRe: Petition to buff spas, ksg, and 1887
so there are no shotgunners on the mw3 forums anymore. Sad day.
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Currently Being ModeratedRe: Petition to buff spas, ksg, and 1887
I have been using the 1887 for some time now in HC TDM.
I'd show you a vid of it having no effect on the enemy half the time but why bother.
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Currently Being ModeratedRe: Petition to buff spas, ksg, and 1887
I thougt the 1887 was okay in hard core. What happened spacificly?
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Currently Being ModeratedRe: Petition to buff spas, ksg, and 1887
Up to a week ago it was very good if your aim was good that day. The last few days though it seems to shoot gummy bears.
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Currently Being ModeratedRe: Petition to buff spas, ksg, and 1887
Must be lag. They didn't even change it in the buff. its still 30-20 base.
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Currently Being ModeratedRe: Petition to buff spas, ksg, and 1887
Ive seen so many strikers its sad. I went back to MW2 and i tried it. the spas owns everything, and now look at it. I hope they nerf it
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Currently Being ModeratedRe: Petition to buff spas, ksg, and 1887
you mean "buff" right?
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Currently Being ModeratedRe: Petition to buff spas, ksg, and 1887
shotguns are fine. the pump actions are not the easiest to use, but you just gotta make sure you actually try to aim good with those things. the rest are fine too, except the aa-12 since i haven't used it post-patch.
i think they made shotguns pretty good in this game making sure they were not too op and used too much (except striker)
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