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pokeshuriken Novice 142 posts since
Oct 8, 2011
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Feb 14, 2012 4:16 PM

Type 95, Striker, FMG9, and PP90

I just started this to see you guys thoughts on these guns. in my opinion, the t95 and fmg9 are cheap, but other ppl say striker and pp90 are also cheap

Dont start saying "oh another of these rants" this isnt a ran, i just wanna know what ppl think about them.

Does anybody know if ifinity ward is going to nerf any of these?

  • **FOOK ME RUNNING ** Novice 115 posts since
    Nov 7, 2011
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    Feb 14, 2012 4:19 PM (in response to pokeshuriken)
    Re: Type 95, Striker, FMG9, and PP90

    I think you should just use whatever weapon suits your style and not listen to the whiners. They only complain in an attempt to cover up their inability to adapt.

  • Thunderstrike75 Novice 174 posts since
    Feb 4, 2012
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    Feb 14, 2012 4:28 PM (in response to pokeshuriken)
    Re: Type 95, Striker, FMG9, and PP90

    i used the type 95 for a while and got called noob a lot of times, but to be sincere here its not really easy to use it, first of all you dont have auto fire you do have to pull the trigger several times, then the most common complain is that they kill you very fast with one shot, yeah like QS dont, compared there one of them definitely shouldnt be doing that from close range. anyway the problem is most people just wont like you very much if you use it because if you are already a good shot youll have a very easy kill frenzy using type 95.

     

    the striker...its good in small maps, if you play DZ youll hate it since people just run in the DZ no aim not even a hint of who is there theyll just run in and pull the trigger like crazy, most of the time theyll get you and youll end up wondering what the hell happened.

     

    pp90 very fast very popular you dont even need to put anything on that one. iron sights and maybe impact and thats it.

     

    and on the nerfing. i hope not, i dont think they should nerf anything, if theyre going to start nerfing guns and changing things just because people are whinning then they should start by taking out the QS first. and just to make it clear here, i used to not care about QS but lately there are to many. but not to worry they wont nerf that for sure. means money to them. lots of kids would just leave and controllers would stop selling (even if its not their businness)

  • Missing Snorlax Master 1,462 posts since
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    Feb 14, 2012 4:40 PM (in response to pokeshuriken)
    Re: Type 95, Striker, FMG9, and PP90

    I can't be the only one who finds it funny that these are all the guns found in Infected lol

     

    Hell, I thought this would be an infected thread.

  • SuperCook1eMan Apprentice 491 posts since
    Oct 13, 2011
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    Feb 14, 2012 5:42 PM (in response to pokeshuriken)
    Re: Type 95, Striker, FMG9, and PP90

    PP90M1 and Striker (nerf actually worked) is fine. T95 and FMG9 are  OP and a noob's best friend.

  • BenjyBangz Apprentice 518 posts since
    Dec 23, 2011
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    Feb 14, 2012 5:51 PM (in response to pokeshuriken)
    Re: Type 95, Striker, FMG9, and PP90

    All of them are good guns and should be left alone.

  • Esy Master 1,934 posts since
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    Feb 14, 2012 6:17 PM (in response to pokeshuriken)
    Re: Type 95, Striker, FMG9, and PP90

    PP90 isn't overpowered...plenty of people use UMP, P90, and MP7; the smg balance is excellent.

  • Gerbera Apprentice 909 posts since
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    Feb 14, 2012 7:25 PM (in response to pokeshuriken)
    Re: Type 95, Striker, FMG9, and PP90

    Out of the listed, I actually don't really have a problem with the Type 95. Not SO much a problem with the Striker. (More of a problem with how generally inferior most of the others, primarily the pump action, are since I DO want to level them up.)

     

    But as a user and on the receiving end, Akimbos of any kind and the PP90M1 are up there, despite also frequent use of the UMP, P90, and MP7. PP90M1 and MP7 are the most highly used ones I've come across anyway and always seem to "instant" kill people because of Rapid Fire and such.

  • TheMooses Novice 101 posts since
    Dec 13, 2011
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    Feb 14, 2012 8:12 PM (in response to pokeshuriken)
    Re: Type 95, Striker, FMG9, and PP90

         I think the only problem is the fmg akimbo, and only because its a secondary.  I am happy to use primarly my KSG and .44s against any gun in the game, even if theyre not the best, because I choose my weaponry based on its feel, not how good it is. 

     

         Many people will pass over weapons that arent the best, but my suggestion to all of you who are crying about OP s*** is to just try using some of the rarer weapons.  When you do well, it is much more gratifying than getting that same pp90/FMG/MP7/Striker killkam everyones seen a million times already.  A win is much greater in my opinion if your opponent respects you even after losing to you, which isnt the case if your using the most powerful weapons in the game.  Stop worrying about gun balance and use whatever the f*** feels most badass.  Leave the powerful guns to the lesser players and challenge yourself.

  • NJTRJ27 Newbie 69 posts since
    Dec 11, 2011
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    Feb 14, 2012 11:18 PM (in response to pokeshuriken)
    Re: Type 95, Striker, FMG9, and PP90

    The type and fmgs still bother me sometimes, the striker doesn't bother me anymore. The mp7 and pp90 both get on my nerves a lot. They both just hose me down with their superior fire rate. That's how they're supposed to be though, it's just that they do so well since most maps are small. The larger maps I almost never get killed by them.

  • GeneralZap1 Novice 48 posts since
    Jan 29, 2012
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    Feb 14, 2012 11:43 PM (in response to pokeshuriken)
    Re: Type 95, Striker, FMG9, and PP90

    I can honestly say nothing wrecks an Assault Killstreak like Striker noobs, Type 95 noobs, or persons using PP90. The PP90 is rather annoying with the MP7 also being similar in nuisance, because the UMP45 and P90 have stats I like, yet their recoil ruins the experience absolutely! Also the PP90 doesn't just have fire rate, it only takes 3 bullets to kill. It's not ONE factor, it is several factors... FMG9 isn't OP at all at this time. I have the Emblem for the MP9, but not for the FMG9. That should tell you something. Both as Akimbo and Extended Mags, I prefer MP9 EVERY time.

     

    The Type 95 is inherently overpowered. It's a 3 burst per trigger pull which only requires two bullets to kill. You can literally put steady aim on it and act as if it was as SMG! I've seen it done, and I don't even use the Type 95 anymore because it is so overpowered. As if that were not enough, it will still one-burst with a silencer (not sure if 100% of the time, but quite, quite often I believe...)

     

    Humans do not think on an "overall picture" basis in combat. We think about one target at a time, dispatching one, then the next. Our brains are much more easily hardwired to a burst mode than auto-matic. This is why kills become so much easier for type 95 users... You don't have to consider your ammunition, it is pre-calculated for you in a burst, and an overpowered burst at that. As stated before, two hits kill in close engagements.

     

    My problem with Modern Warfare 3 weaponry is it keeps attempting to have some bizarre "balance", and yet also be realistic, when the Type 95, Striker, killstreak-blockers and overly used PP90/MP7 show an obviously hardcore tending towards these weapons. There will always be some bizarre persons that just like the "feel" of this or that gun regardless of it's performance because on some consious or subconsious level it just syncs better, requires less effort, etc.

     

    If it doesn't feel right in the middle of those, we should go towards the real world or the balance world, not a crapilly thought out middleman dictatorship of weapons.

  • JustinNH Novice 96 posts since
    Dec 2, 2011
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    Feb 15, 2012 6:57 AM (in response to pokeshuriken)
    Re: Type 95, Striker, FMG9, and PP90

    I hate the striker but If I get ravaged by it a few times, I will pick it up and almost always kill the original owner at least once with it. 100% satisfying.

     

    Every gun has it purpose. None are OP because all have a counter.

    • DaCleric Newbie 51 posts since
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      Feb 15, 2012 7:15 AM (in response to JustinNH)
      Re: Type 95, Striker, FMG9, and PP90

      The only one I dont really like is the striker since people using steady aim can hip fire you from longer than effective smg range and kill you rather quickly.  But, I dont let this bother me but so much because I should still be able to kill them quickly with a different gun.  Im also not a fan of the akimbo FMGs so when I see people using those, I stay in long range areas and mow them down.  There are ways around all of these guns, and none are truely overpowered if you can just adjust your style to counter them.

       

      (meant to respond to OP, not sure how to change this)

       

      Message was edited by: DaCleric

  • CowboySr Master 3,765 posts since
    Jan 24, 2012
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    Feb 15, 2012 7:07 AM (in response to pokeshuriken)
    Re: Type 95, Striker, FMG9, and PP90

    If theyre so good, use them. The end.

  • Novice 117 posts since
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    Feb 15, 2012 7:32 AM (in response to pokeshuriken)
    Re: Type 95, Striker, FMG9, and PP90

    I think a big problem with the pp90m1 is that it hip fires too well. It's other properties are strong, so I think the spread should be wider, but that's just me. Hip-fire in general is a little too accurate, but you just gotta roll with it.

     

    I'd say most of these guns are pretty cheap, but if that's what you're liking, then use them.

     

    I really only get frustrated with the akimbo-FMG-as-primary crowd. Very annoying.

    • Newbie 10 posts since
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      Feb 15, 2012 7:53 AM (in response to topherlive)
      Re: Type 95, Striker, FMG9, and PP90

      People need to man up an quit crying about guns being over powered. I think a bigger issue was the quick scope,  Black Ops did not have that issue and I think it was a better experience.  I hear type 95 users taking crap.  how come people who use Automatic guns are not given a hard time because they can just hold down the trigger and spray. Sure there are things that annoy me as well.  Akimbo accuracy is a little more accurate than I think it should be, but im not going to cry about it.  Quick Scoping to me is totally ridicules. when a guy shoots someone while the screen is still completely black because he has not even gotten the scope up yet?  retarded.  I would rather have a sniper camp and get me. at least that is the nature of a true sniper.  not running around using it like a shot gun.  Sniping should be harder to do, due to the powerful nature of their weaponry.

    • Newbie 23 posts since
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      Feb 15, 2012 9:28 AM (in response to topherlive)
      Re: Type 95, Striker, FMG9, and PP90

      no gun in the game is cheap.its a game if you get butt hurt when you die in it.then quit playing.

  • Newbie 32 posts since
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    Feb 15, 2012 7:58 AM (in response to pokeshuriken)
    Re: Type 95, Striker, FMG9, and PP90

    "They only complain in an attempt to cover up their inability to adapt." That pretty much sums it up. Being Cod is very competitive, no one likes being beat by other players with guns that are used the most. Abd beating a player using a gun everyone uses (type 95, striker, fmg's) with a gun that is not popular is definitely possible, they just cant, which takes my whole point back to what I quoted.

  • Newbie 23 posts since
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    Feb 15, 2012 9:26 AM (in response to pokeshuriken)
    Re: Type 95, Striker, FMG9, and PP90

    i love using the type 95 then watching people cry when i kill them.im supposed to use a gun that i suck with so they can kill me..to bad i use what works for me.go ahead call me a n00b ill do the same to you because you use a gun that you are good with.

  • nickpeck36 Expert 519 posts since
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    Feb 15, 2012 9:50 AM (in response to pokeshuriken)
    Re: Type 95, Striker, FMG9, and PP90

    I love the ppm90 with fire rate, it's fun but you have to wield it correctly.  Also, why shouldn't the type 95 be powerful?  Kind of the point of a 3 round burst vs. full auto, no?  If you can only squeeze off 3 at a time you better be accurate and dropping guys or you won't stand a chance.  I'm getting better with it and enjoy it but there are many times people with the faster gun nail me every time.

     

    I think all of the guns are balanced pretty well other then the akimbo pos guns, for just shooting via no scoping they are way to accurate.  But other then those I don't have to many complaints so far.

    • NJTRJ27 Newbie 69 posts since
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      Feb 15, 2012 6:27 PM (in response to nickpeck36)
      Re: Type 95, Striker, FMG9, and PP90

      The m16 cannot compare to the type95. They are both a 3-burst shot but the type95 does 55 damage and fires 1000rpm. It does 45 damage and fires 780rpm. It is easier to land hits on someone when a gun fires faster since the bullets are closer together. I just don't see an argument that could support the m16 as being the better gun statistically. Slower firing guns should be more powerful and the faster firing guns should be less powerful. It seems to be that way with the other weapons. The cm9 and the ak-47 have high power but slower fire rates. The FAD shoot very fast, but has low damage. The type95 seems unbalanced to me with it's high damage and high fire rate.

  • Novice 340 posts since
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    Feb 15, 2012 9:52 AM (in response to pokeshuriken)
    Re: Type 95, Striker, FMG9, and PP90

    Not all guns are created equally.

    Some guns kill better at close range,

    Some guns are better at long range,

    Some guns have wonderful attachments,

    Some guns do not,

    Some guns shoot really fast,

    Some guns do not,

    Some people complain about anything,

    Like a throwing knife against the Type95,

    Some games have given years of fun,

    Some gaming communities are garabage,

    Guns Kill in many different ways okay,

    If you don't like it...

    Don't play the CoDDa*n game!

  • fisheadz Newbie 81 posts since
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    Feb 15, 2012 10:32 AM (in response to pokeshuriken)
    Re: Type 95, Striker, FMG9, and PP90

    mp7 across map 5 bullet kill, lsw across map 5 bullet kill, with the lack of mp7 recoil whats the point of lmgs ?

     

    lmgs should have no damage drop off

    smgs should have a max range

    striker is proper annoying, needs something doin

    machine pistols should be put in the bin, all of them

    deathstreaks should be put in the bin

     

    jobs a goodun

  • highfeet Newbie 41 posts since
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    Feb 15, 2012 10:36 AM (in response to pokeshuriken)
    Re: Type 95, Striker, FMG9, and PP90

    im full prestige in every cod since cod 4 so i know what i say

     

    fmg :  op for live with akimbo

    type 95 : op for live

    pp90 : just f.. you

    striker : a weapon for the baddest of all because you dont need to aim

                     every good player playing it is a jfz7584w982qhfhdsi

    Acr : complete op

     

    but know listen                       MP7 is comlete from the ground up over powered and suck in                                               so much ways. i can kill a sniper with full automatik shooting                                               over the intire map .

     

    but hey i love the game and dont care about these weapons or campers. i play my support killstreak and got my 18 streaks every round so it still makes fun to me.

     

    my favorite weapons are :   Mp5 sd , modell   ,  cm90blabla  ,  L96          blindeye ghost                                                                                                                   steady aim

    • Novice 340 posts since
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      Feb 15, 2012 10:47 AM (in response to highfeet)
      Re: Type 95, Striker, FMG9, and PP90

      Highfeet is not your gamertag then.

      Highfeet's custom classes are setup to be

      Striker with Dual FMG9's

      Roit Shield with MP9 EM

      ACR silencer & red dot with Dual FMG9's

      MP7 silencer with Dual FMG9's

      Scar-L with Stinger

      MP7 Silencer with Stinger

      PP90 EM with Stinger

      ACR EM with Stinger

      M4A1 Red Dot with MP9 EM

      Assasian and Support Streaks

      That cannot be you.

  • machine2011 Master 2,976 posts since
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    Feb 15, 2012 3:58 PM (in response to pokeshuriken)
    Re: Type 95, Striker, FMG9, and PP90

    im past caring what guns people think are over powered il use whatever gun gets the job done whether its the type95, striker or acr

  • Snipingdbag Master 4,587 posts since
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    Feb 15, 2012 4:12 PM (in response to pokeshuriken)
    Re: Type 95, Striker, FMG9, and PP90

    T95 Yep fun op gun cqb to mid when the connection is on your side it feels like a HC gun in core.

     

    Fmgs yep OP cqb, they make jugg users look silly as a job

     

    Striker - half a boner now, was definitely a beast with extended mags and damage, though a beast shotgun is a great thing imo

     

    PP90, best smg cqb, but there are better guns all-round in the game.

  • Thunderstrike75 Novice 174 posts since
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    Feb 15, 2012 6:30 PM (in response to pokeshuriken)
    Re: Type 95, Striker, FMG9, and PP90

    well they nerfed type 95, now the spread on hip fire each bullet goes on different directions. i think this was a bad move, i mean they have QS no one is doing anything to correct it, but they nerf other guns? sheesh anyway i guess people will have to just settle for what the majority likes so they dont end up nerfing it...

  • gallp13 Master 6,466 posts since
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    Feb 16, 2012 1:10 AM (in response to pokeshuriken)
    Re: Type 95, Striker, FMG9, and PP90

    Bullet are cheap...who cares just kill em....surely ;)

  • monkianolog Novice 130 posts since
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    Feb 16, 2012 3:40 AM (in response to pokeshuriken)
    Re: Type 95, Striker, FMG9, and PP90

    Tbh, the whole game is OP!

  • bigjon00 Apprentice 510 posts since
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    Feb 16, 2012 4:47 AM (in response to pokeshuriken)
    Re: Type 95, Striker, FMG9, and PP90

    ive used the type 95 for a whole prestige trying to get 2500 kils with it and its pretty amazing gun i love it , its not cheap at all if your accuracy is good then you've got a kill every time , FMG9  are way to powerful they do need to be put down abit or take akimbo of them , no gun is overpowered so i dunno why people say that for  they might just cant handle the gun or summit

  • HAAMMER Newbie 7 posts since
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    Jul 23, 2012 6:55 PM (in response to pokeshuriken)
    Re: Type 95, Striker, FMG9, and PP90

    -T95 was banned by GB/MLG...cheap

    -PP90M1 cannot stand against MP7 or P90...not cheap

    -Striker is for kids with Down's who cannot kill anyone with "more skilled" weapons...cheap

    -FMG9 is a good spray and pray with AKIMBO but with a single it is still a spray n pray...cheap

    -sidenote...ACR is a weapon that assclowns use because everyelse uses, kills like crazy at all lengths and challenges the MK-14...cheapest gun in the game

     

    G36C and M4A1...BOAT

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