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Menace1944 Newbie 17 posts since
Dec 5, 2011
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Jan 22, 2012 8:29 AM

Wall Blocking

there is a thing that people do when you steal there kill or something like that an what they do is wait for u to get in a corner an then they stand in front of you so you cant move an then your stuck there till they die or you die its stupid an the only way for you to fix it is to make us able to walk through your team an only your team it happened to me at least 5 times yesterday an has happened alot before. please fix this problem alot of my friends are getting annoyed too.

  • trialstardragon Master 10,285 posts since
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    Jan 22, 2012 5:17 PM (in response to Menace1944)
    Re: Wall Blocking

    No, you should not be able to walk through your teammates in these games. That is even worse then thinking that this game needs tanks in it like somone else posted. Or thinking that snipers should have an auto hold break function like another tool posted.

     

    Just do not get in a corner and you do not have to worry about it. Stop trying to camp in corners. For that is why they blocked you, for being a corner camper not because you stole their kill.

      • trialstardragon Master 10,285 posts since
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        Jan 25, 2012 5:03 AM (in response to Menace1944)
        Re: Wall Blocking

        You still should not be camping or hiding in a corner for any reason. Hide in a corner and get found and blocked it is your fault not the games.

        • zackyd665 Novice 358 posts since
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          Jan 27, 2012 12:38 AM (in response to trialstardragon)
          Re: Wall Blocking

          I see so using the map to your advantage to ambush enimies or to regain a bit of health is bad(or at least thats what i get from this post).

          • trialstardragon Master 10,285 posts since
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            Jan 27, 2012 6:45 AM (in response to zackyd665)
            Re: Wall Blocking

            You do not need to go to a corner to regain health, just drop prone behind something. There is plent of things on a map to not require a person to need hide in a corner to regen health or reload or anything else in the game.

             

            Corner camping to ambush a player is a slightly different thing, but if that is all you do all the game and someone decided to block you.. well stop camping the corner all the time then. Hug a wall, camp behind a car or truck. Some place you can not be trapped.

             

            Asking that the game allow you to walk through teammates is a backwards step in game design and just dumb really.

            • zackyd665 Novice 358 posts since
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              Jan 27, 2012 3:35 PM (in response to trialstardragon)
              Re: Wall Blocking

              how would it be backward?, it would stop the weird glitchy running at the start of rounds, stop teammates from blocking each other, and it would also be useful when a teammate is halfway in a door way but isn't competely blocking it off but due to clipping i can't pass through (like how high the prone clipping box is.)

               

              maybe tighter clipping boxes (maybe polygons instead of boxes). that would be a forward step in game design.

              • trialstardragon Master 10,285 posts since
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                Jan 27, 2012 5:21 PM (in response to zackyd665)
                Re: Wall Blocking

                pass through walking is a backwards step in game design because that is what games allowed in side scrollers. This is not a side scroller so you should not be allowed to pass through your teammate for any reason. The only time it is an issue is if there is a map wiht a room that only has one exit/entrance. But in MW3 there are very few if any of those.

                • Novice 166 posts since
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                  Jan 31, 2012 10:02 PM (in response to trialstardragon)
                  Re: Wall Blocking

                  So it gotta be a sidescroller to have that? I dont think this game should have it either but that is stupid thinking right there

                • RaggyFTW Apprentice 460 posts since
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                  Feb 2, 2012 11:30 AM (in response to trialstardragon)
                  Re: Wall Blocking

                  I really want to be able to check your theatre and see if you never go to a single corner in your entirety of games. should be humourous

                  • trialstardragon Master 10,285 posts since
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                    Feb 4, 2012 2:00 PM (in response to RaggyFTW)
                    Re: Wall Blocking

                    Yep been in corners before, but never where I can be trapped. Plus I do not stay in them long enough to be trapped. I dun use them for ksr though, no need too, or to regain health. I have camped corners before yes, for short time periods. And no I never have been trapped in them because I do not stay in them the entire match or long enough to ever get trapped for any reason. Plus should anyone ever try to trap my, I will suicide myself and not give a damn since I normaly run support streaks. So no fear about deaths for me.

                    • nuttin2say Expert 2,533 posts since
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                      Feb 4, 2012 9:30 PM (in response to trialstardragon)
                      Re: Wall Blocking

                      I know what you're saying, trialstar. I've only been corner trapped a couple of times in all. Usually I have to deal with some tard running around dry-knifing me because I stole his kill or just being stupid. And even that doesn't happen much. I get around too much for teammates to keep up. Those that do usually get picked off because they just have to double check an area I already scanned and I'm already about to finish crossing.

                       

                      As far as the suicide idea, I've done that in other CODs but havent felt the need in this one yet. I did the shooting my non-silenced gun in the area to create a red dot recently and it was hilarious how it worked out.

                       

                      I don't get too tight into corners because doing so makes it hard to call in certain KSRs and if you call in a care package, you chance the damm thing getting caught on a roof or out of reach somewhere.

                       

                      Not really on topic, but I don't get the "stole my kill" thing with MW3. Using HL Pro, you're more than welcome to finish off a kill I left laying around. Two of them count as a kill toward my streak. Get 200 assists using HL pro and there's an achievement bonus that's a bunch of points. Easy XP for people wanting to rank up.

      • vTc__Goose Apprentice 479 posts since
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        Feb 5, 2012 5:30 AM (in response to Menace1944)
        Re: Wall Blocking

        Play Hard Core. Enough said.

        • nuttin2say Expert 2,533 posts since
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          Feb 5, 2012 10:37 AM (in response to vTc__Goose)
          Re: Wall Blocking

          vTc__Goose wrote:

           

          Play Hard Core. Enough said.

           

          Because you can just shoot your teammate to get him out of the way, right?

           

          You do realize that the ricochette in HC modes causes the bullet to do a magical 180 degree u-turn ... and that you are in your own bullet's path after that u-turn ... right?

          • vTc__Goose Apprentice 479 posts since
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            Feb 6, 2012 4:35 AM (in response to nuttin2say)
            Re: Wall Blocking

            nuttin2say wrote:

             

            vTc__Goose wrote:

             

            Play Hard Core. Enough said.

             

            Because you can just shoot your teammate to get him out of the way, right?

             

            You do realize that the ricochette in HC modes causes the bullet to do a magical 180 degree u-turn ... and that you are in your own bullet's path after that u-turn ... right?

            You do realize that you'd in essence kill yourself and be out of that corner right? Please don't come off as condescending without thinking about the topic at hand.

             

            The person is complaining about not being able to move or get out of a corner because of another teammate. Do you REALLY think that person's going to cry over a death? I'd rather get myself killed and go on about my merry way, than sit behind some idiot who's clearly exploiting a 'game flaw'? 

  • Newbie 83 posts since
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    Jan 28, 2012 12:26 AM (in response to Menace1944)
    Re: Wall Blocking

    I personally will temporarily block people in a corner when they are sitting there and have been sitting there for most if not all of the game.  If you're camping in a corner in any game mode, especially if it's something objective based you really should not be in the lobby.  There are many people that would enjoy legitimately playing and supporting the team.  You provide no real support to the team when you only sit in a corner.  There's a difference between corner camping and patrolling an area, if all you're doing is waiting in some low traffic area to get kills that you don't deserve then I'm all for people corner trapping you.  Also, the only way you'll spawn in corners is if you're placing a tactical insertion in one, so just move it so it's not in one.

    • Calculating status... 12 posts since
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      Jan 28, 2012 5:45 PM (in response to xWARxGreggerz)
      Re: Wall Blocking

      Menace, your 100% right its absolute crap that teammates can block you in a corner and there is nothing you can go about it! I am far from a camper and actually dispise them, but when using killstreaks (like every other player) will at times use corners as protection. Is walking through teammates the fix? No they should just make it so you cant be blocked! Trialstardragon - your an idiot!

      • trialstardragon Master 10,285 posts since
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        Jan 28, 2012 9:17 PM (in response to Zubby83)
        Re: Wall Blocking

        You are an idiot to assume that they should not prevent clipping in this game. You should not ever be allowed to walk through a teammate even if blocked. Stay out of the corner. there is no reason to even go to them when using a ksr. There are plenty of other things in ever map to duck behind for cover while you use the ksr.

         

        If you go hide in a corner and get blocked it is your fault for going to the corner and hiding. Never go anywhere that you may get blocked plain and simple. Do not expect the devs to give you some magic escape from it like clipping through a wall or teammate to be able to get away.

          • trialstardragon Master 10,285 posts since
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            Feb 1, 2012 9:01 PM (in response to Menace1944)
            Re: Wall Blocking

            Your a wanker for needing to hide in a corner when using a ksr or to ambush players. And 9-10 they can not block you on a flat wall unless your just stupid and let them both get in the right spot to do that. Again your fault for not moving when they started to come near you, not the games fault at all.

             

            Oh and yes I will block people in corners especially in hardcore when I find them. Or I will stand there and fire my gun in their general direction to let the enemy know where they are.

             

            The only game mode where it is strategically advantageous to go to a corner is Team Defender and you have the flag and are using a riot shield.

  • Newbie 37 posts since
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    Jan 31, 2012 9:56 PM (in response to Menace1944)
    Re: Wall Blocking

    I block kids in corners all the time. It's funny! I kill myself and use dead man's hand, a lot. That's funny too! I used to kill everyone with an RPG at the start of HC Search and Destroy but they made me stop.

  • josh1073 Expert 1,063 posts since
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    Jan 31, 2012 10:07 PM (in response to Menace1944)
    Re: Wall Blocking

    how about not stealing peoples kills?? just a idea!!.

      • nuttin2say Expert 2,533 posts since
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        Feb 4, 2012 10:18 PM (in response to Menace1944)
        Re: Wall Blocking

        Gotta agree with Menace1944.

         

        Use HL Pro and then this  ...

         

        josh1073 wrote

         

        how about not stealing peoples kills?? just a idea!!.

         

        ... is not only no big deal, but actually a big plus to you.

  • Calculating status... 2 posts since
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    Feb 2, 2012 11:40 AM (in response to Menace1944)
    Re: Wall Blocking

    this game used to be team basedd now its just for the kills! no fun in that -.-

  • Novice 215 posts since
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    Feb 4, 2012 10:56 AM (in response to Menace1944)
    Re: Wall Blocking

    theres also the advent of in game trolling now. i was playing s n d with the clan on resistance 3 of the other team were being corner blocked in the garage/ lock up by enemy no4 i got the easiest quad ever and you shouldve heard the other team rage in between rounds. ive no doubt thats found its way onto youtube now

  • nuttin2say Expert 2,533 posts since
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    Feb 4, 2012 11:44 AM (in response to Menace1944)
    Re: Wall Blocking

    Trialstar ...

     

    I gotta disagree with you on this one. "Corner" camping is too often a misused, wrongly used term to describe what someone is doing.

     

    You know, there's something to be said for teammates - teammates, mind you, who have a better feel for how much you're moving around a map than the other team does - accuse you of camping ....

     

     

    ... then when the match is over you get the "Most Traveled" accolade.

     

     

    There's a lot of reasons I may duck off into a crevice or corner. If you want to stay out in the open, solely out of principle, to call in kill streaks ... that's your opinion. For me, its an easy kill.

     

    I'm not knocking you, I'm just saying I'm not going to stay out in the open and get killed while calling in a kill streak or reloading or getting a fresh read on the map because someone thinks doing so is camping.

     

    You know what's really annoying ... no, I gotta admit, I kind of find one thing people with this corner blocking do is pretty pathetic. Playing Domination, I'm shaking my head because every time my team caps a point, they run to cap another one and leave the first one unprotected. Next thing I know, we've capped another point ... but we lost the one we just capped previously.

     

    So if I see this happening a lot, I'll stop rushing and start moving between two of the points. I won't try to cap either of them until I feel confident the opposing team is not paying attention. I do this because my team is running all over the place and not holding any point nor are they controlling any area of the map. In fact, they are getting steam rolled in kills.

     

    Then along comes Mr. I'm3leet teammate pyssed off that I'm not helping rush the opposing team.

     

    Me - "Come on, man. Hop outta the way."

    Teammate - "FU man. You're camping and messing us up!"

     

    Me - "No, I'm trying to hold down at least one point and actually could use some help."

    Teammate - "No you're not! You haven't capped anything in three minutes!"

     

    Me - "Right. And every point you've captured has gone right back to the other team immediately. Why are you trying to cap more points when you can't even hold the first point?"

    Teammate - "FU camper!"

     

    Me - (aiming into the air and emptying all my ammo as I become a bright red dot on the other team's mini-maps)

    Teammate - (as he goes down in flames) Why did you do that?! You effing tard! You got me killed!

    Me - I needed your gun.

     

    Another reason I'll duck behind a corner - and this probably the # 1 or # 2 reason I duck into corners - is because I've run out of ammo but I've managed to convince an opponent to come after me. Usually the very first corner I round I immediately put my back against ... two seconds later, there he goes ... running as fast as he can cuz ... he gownna git me ... huh huh hehehe. Not. Knife to the back. "Oh, that's BS!"

     

    There's a lot of reasons to duck off into a corner. Just because someone is in a corner, that does not mean they are "camping."

    • trialstardragon Master 10,285 posts since
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      Feb 4, 2012 2:14 PM (in response to nuttin2say)
      Re: Wall Blocking

      There may be a few vaild reason to duck in to a corner but none that would leave you long enough to get trapped. As towards using ksr, I have no problems using them in the open and not dieing when doing so. To regain health? There are plenty of places on every map you can duck behind and not need to go to a corner to regain health. There is only a few ksr in the game that would need you to hide somehwhere to use them. And even then there are plenty of places on each map to hide with out the need of a corner.

       

      I am not a true team player I am a lone wolf when by myself. I do not care if other team mates do not like how I am playing at that point because I do not know them, nor care what they think. when I play with friends I somtimes play lone wolf, other times as support and they know this and accept it.

      • trialstardragon Master 10,285 posts since
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        Feb 6, 2012 9:51 AM (in response to Menace1944)
        Re: Wall Blocking

        There are only 10 prestiges in MW3, unless your saying you went to 10th and started over again. And no there is not over a 1000 valid reason to be in a corner in this game and never was.

         

        And no I do not try for the moab because I think it is stupid and never should have been added to the game, just like the nuke was stupid in mw2. I have been playing CoD since WaW, MW, MW2, BO and now MW3. So yes I have played this game series before quite a bit.

         

        In BO I went to 15/50 just for the hell of it, not because it was hard or required any skill to do; but because it was easy to do. Prestigeing means nothing to me, for they mean nothing at all other then some playercards or emblems.. which are useless as far as I am concerned.

  • mrbob3 Calculating status... 20 posts since
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    Mar 1, 2012 9:25 AM (in response to Menace1944)
    Re: Wall Blocking

    Stealing someones kill so they block you in a corner? my god theres some mardy children around. If i want to hide in a corner and camp/shoot i will, i dont really give a monkeys ass what people think of my tacticts. One idiot stood in front of me trapping me in a corner stabbing me so i used a non silenced gun to attract an enemy who arrived, shot him dead and then i shot the enemy and carried on lol

  • SalemInChains Apprentice 907 posts since
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    Mar 1, 2012 9:55 AM (in response to Menace1944)
    Re: Wall Blocking

    Wait, some1 in our fine, upsatnding COD community would act like a child and block you in a corner or doorway?

     

    Say it aint so.

     

    BTW, this has been happening since COD4.

     

    Id report them and send a PM to bancandy explaining exactly what happened as it probly wouldnt be easy to figure out by looking at elite numbers.

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