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JGRnaut_aks Newbie 77 posts since
Jan 11, 2012
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Feb 1, 2012 1:36 AM

Final Stand is Bullsh!t

Final stand is bullsh!t, this death streak crap really needs to go, especially final stand. 2 minutes ago I was playing a match and using the spas-12 in Fallen, the back part of the map with the 2 walkways through a big building, one a long sniper spot up to the main building with 2 windows up top and the other walkway has a small car on one side, OK so I round the corner where the car is and what do I see, an enemy crouched with their back to me, so I ran up with my spas, one shot to the back of the neck and kept running because come on let's get serious for a second here a shot gun blast to the back of the neck is definite death but what happens....I run past, and OH SH!T they go into final stand and akimbo fmg my a$$. WTF are you serious, a shotgun blast point blank to the back of the neck and when I say point blank i mean that a$$hole woulda been burnt by my barrel it was so close, not only this time but it's happened oh god I don't even know probably a hundred or so times with people going into final stand while i'm using all sorts of weapons. I don't know about you guys but personally I know exactly how long to hold the trigger when i'm using certain guns for a definite kill I usually don't check if they've died cause 9/10 times I know for a fact they're dead and then I keep moving lookin for the next victim, but OH SH!T some a$$hole went into final stand I gotta stop, either turn if im right there or run back around a corner to get back to him, usually by that time they've got their dual wielding weapons out firing aimlessly in my direction. deathstreaks are retarded. It's like giving 5Th place trophies out...RETARDED!!!!! anyways that's my rant, cooled off a little gonna go twist one. peace

  • Newbie 83 posts since
    Jan 26, 2012
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    Feb 1, 2012 1:41 AM (in response to JGRnaut_aks)
    Re: Final Stand is Bullsh!t

    You should really wait for the points to pop up, but yea final stand is absolutely stupid.  Try dealing with it in hardcore, that's mainly all I play and between final stand and dead man's hand it really makes it stupid to even rush at all.

    • xXKingKongxX Novice 230 posts since
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      Feb 1, 2012 2:24 AM (in response to xWARxGreggerz)
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      It is BS, but it's really the only one to use, it gives you a chance to take 99% damage and then recover from it, the number of times I've gone into last stand and recovered is too many to count, so why wouldn't you give yourself that advantage.

       

      I'm not saying I agree with it, but to me if it's there then use it.

      • Newbie 83 posts since
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        Feb 1, 2012 2:29 AM (in response to xXKingKongxX)
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        It's rare that I hit a death streak.  I've never changed it from juiced and I don't really like using things that I consider to be overpowered or stupid against other players.  I just learn methods around them or an effective way to counter them.  However, getting panic knifed in the phase between them falling to the ground and sitting on the ground is stupid.  Either you need to pull out a secondary/pistol when you fall or you need to not be able to stand back up.  I completely understand the developers belief that deathstreaks are necessary, but I think final stand and dead man's hand are a bit over the top.

  • thebigb59 Master 8,237 posts since
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    Feb 1, 2012 2:34 AM (in response to JGRnaut_aks)
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    I feel your pain, it was the most complained about thing in MW2 (I would know, I deleted enough repeat threads about it) along with quickscoping, oma, commando and noobtubes

     

    yet only OMA and tubes where fix or removed from MW3, what does that tell you about this community

    • esmorgue Master 6,606 posts since
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      Feb 1, 2012 2:57 AM (in response to thebigb59)
      Re: Final Stand is Bullsh!t

      thebigb59 wrote:

       

      I feel your pain, it was the most complained about thing in MW2 (I would know, I deleted enough repeat threads about it) along with quickscoping, oma, commando and noobtubes

       

      yet only OMA and tubes where fix or removed from MW3, what does that tell you about this community

      Complete crap. Sissy Chance, the problem was the Sissy dropping down with his Primary...instead of pistol. They couldnt fix it. Yet they put it in the game fully, then they can get up.

  • jamesWHUFC Novice 22 posts since
    Jan 16, 2012
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    Feb 1, 2012 3:59 AM (in response to JGRnaut_aks)
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    Its the C4 explosion before they die that grinds my gears.

  • Thesandman Master 1,531 posts since
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    Feb 1, 2012 5:24 AM (in response to JGRnaut_aks)
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    Activision actually had a youtube video posted on their last night facebook page promoting a final stand user on Dome, who basically camped,went to final stand,recovered and camped even more!! this crap has ruined many a MOAB attempt for people or in my case gettin a pavelow. It needs to go or maybe a situation similar to Black Ops where you pulled out a smallish handgun,but def not AR,Smgs,C4 or akimbo machine pistols!!

    • X-Claws Apprentice 115 posts since
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      Feb 1, 2012 6:41 AM (in response to Thesandman)
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      Deathstreaks in general are just the biggest joke I've ever seen in any game, ever.

       

      Death mans hand is hands down an idea of the developers to troll, the fact that it explodes even when you shoot them before they detonate is further proof that they just want to p**** people off.

  • Snipingdbag Master 4,587 posts since
    Oct 19, 2011
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    Feb 1, 2012 6:51 AM (in response to JGRnaut_aks)
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    These lethal deathstreaks also always get people who have balls and play head on or with a pump-action shotgun. How fair. I love it when people say keep shooting, you do and thus get nuked as there is a nuke final stand version now as well that looks just like final stand, but hey "no second chance, F-ck you second chance" yeah right..

  • Newbie 29 posts since
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    Feb 1, 2012 6:54 AM (in response to JGRnaut_aks)
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    If the next CoD doesn't have that dead man's hand bullshit and the final stand i swear there sales would go up 2x more....I was one away from an moab and I died by a guy that had final stand. To this day I never seen how it feels like to make the sky all dark and orange =(. FU Infinity Ward

  • WiseguyFTL Apprentice 494 posts since
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    Feb 1, 2012 7:03 AM (in response to JGRnaut_aks)
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    Deathstreaks are B.S. Most of the time the guy who gets it is really bad (if he wasn't bad he wouldn't get deathstreaks) and you'll have plenty of time to still shoot him, however if you've already turned around / ran past him like you described, it's a certain death. Dead mans hand is even worse, if you're in a room and blow his face off with a shotgun, there's a 0% chance you escape. DMH seems to have a bigger blast radius than a predator missile... I only survived it a couple of times, and that was because I had the specialist bonus with Blast shield.

    • dalger22 Apprentice 378 posts since
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      Feb 1, 2012 7:43 AM (in response to WiseguyFTL)
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      I really hate dead man's hand or whatever the c4 deathstreak is.  Quite annoying because you can't tell the difference between someone in final stand or the dead man's hand.  Also, the range for that DS is ridiculous.  I've had plenty of times where I am a good 15 feet away and it still kills me. 

      • JamesTori Novice 42 posts since
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        Feb 1, 2012 7:49 AM (in response to dalger22)
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        A few days ago I was playin Team Defender, my team had captured the flag and had it held up in a room. Spawns had shifted so I ran through the centre room where my team was to patrol that side and all of a sudden an enemy runs in, I shoot him - OH SURPRISE!! Nuke hand comes out and that guy kills my whole team and me (6 people).

    • Novice 116 posts since
      Jan 21, 2012
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      Feb 1, 2012 4:58 PM (in response to WiseguyFTL)
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      Most of the time they are inferior players going up against people with good fps skills, but I cannot count how many times I have had on a random death streak and gotten it two or three kills before it is supposed to take effect. Final stand is a mid-range death streak and I have gotten it after dying twice in a row...just goes to show that there is one more thing wrong with the game. I have even gone into final stand at two deaths. got back up and killed three or four people, died, got two more kills, and dropped right back into final stand. Now, whenever I see someone go into a death streak I never assume it's because they are bad. And to be honest I find those people who run like cracked out meth freaks and knife me using juiced to be more annoying. Just a personal opinion there.

  • scratch_1_more Apprentice 1,001 posts since
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    Feb 1, 2012 8:05 AM (in response to JGRnaut_aks)
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    This Cracks me up everytime. *Bowling on stage saying "No Last stand" (croud cheers) "Fu*k you last stand!" (with glorious fist pump)*

     

    Launch day comes...Enter "Final Stand" XD

     

  • ghamorra Master 8,691 posts since
    Sep 17, 2011
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    Feb 1, 2012 9:16 AM (in response to JGRnaut_aks)
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    Final Stand is everywhere and it sucks. It seems like every third or fourth person I kill is on that deathstreak

  • RAMBONER Expert 1,066 posts since
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    Feb 1, 2012 9:20 AM (in response to JGRnaut_aks)
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    Wow....first time I had seen that vid.  Dam on what planet does someone have to be on to say something that they know is completely false.  I was 2 off a MOAB for the second time and got whacked by dead mans hand.  I get my deathstreaks some but have also left them all on juiced as the old saying goes , "do to others as youd have done to you" and I think they are ****.  they should be stuff that minimally helps you get a kill not stuff that kills for you.  Focus for a kill, heat radius on your map for 1 kill etc.  I have read other better ideas but ya get the point.

  • rlbl Master 6,042 posts since
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    Feb 1, 2012 9:19 AM (in response to JGRnaut_aks)
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    Death Streaks are kinda dumb... but what is the bigger problem:

     

    Deathstreaks or;

    Lag

     

    Even the best players can get totally lag raped and have a 4-20 game. Often I would not change my death streaks, but now I have used some because I hate getting shot by people who were not there on my screen...

    • ghamorra Master 8,691 posts since
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      Feb 1, 2012 9:22 AM (in response to rlbl)
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      Yeah, I call these people the invisibles. You run straight and BOOM! dead. You watch killcam and here comes this guy who gets right up in your face and kills you. You didn't even see him but he sure as hell saw you

  • Novice 103 posts since
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    Feb 1, 2012 10:23 AM (in response to JGRnaut_aks)
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    Respectfully, I am gonna disagree with the majority of opinions on final stand or dead mans hand. But only because I die often as a result of lag, and, only until the lag problem is corrected.

     

    DMH or FS is the handicap I need to offset the lag advantage some gamers get.

     

    I (conservatively) estimate that half of my deaths are a result of lag. 

    • ghamorra Master 8,691 posts since
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      Feb 1, 2012 11:19 AM (in response to IslandGo4R)
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      Lag might result in half of your deaths but you also have to look at how many kills are a result of lag. People forget of the converse. There are many times I have openly acknowledge that a man should have killed me when instead I killed him.

       

      "With every action there is an equal and opposite reaction"

  • BuddyVA Apprentice 664 posts since
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    Feb 1, 2012 11:23 AM (in response to JGRnaut_aks)
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    I love final stand! Make sure I'm dead and you won't have a problem.

  • mike030270 Apprentice 801 posts since
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    Feb 1, 2012 11:24 AM (in response to JGRnaut_aks)
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    I hate it. And now there are people who actually die on purpose just so they can get dead mans hand and run into someone on a streak and use it.

  • rankismet Master 10,982 posts since
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    Feb 1, 2012 11:27 AM (in response to JGRnaut_aks)
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    JGRnaut_aks wrote:

     

    blah blah blah

     

    massive wall o'text

     

    blah blah blah

     

    Final Stand... get used to it... it's not going anywhere.

     

    Try and take the soap out of your mouth for a second and edit your post... before the mods edit it for you.

  • cranium2001 Master 2,568 posts since
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    Feb 1, 2012 11:32 AM (in response to JGRnaut_aks)
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    I've never used it. I get killed by it occasionally. Usually, if I do, it's one time and then if I see said final stand user I aim low and complete the kill on the ground. It's really not that OP.

  • Apprentice 861 posts since
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    Feb 1, 2012 11:36 AM (in response to JGRnaut_aks)
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    Let me correct you...

     

    The deathstreaks suck. Period.

    • sml7285 Master 2,098 posts since
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      Feb 1, 2012 11:48 AM (in response to gamehub-thethird.)
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      If I'm ever really really really really.... really really bored and I'm playing alone against a clan of wannabe MLG players playing extremely defensively near the objective, I'll run around playing Desert Eagle only until I unlock dead man's hand, at which point I run directly at the largest group of people I can find.

  • Newbie 50 posts since
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    Feb 1, 2012 11:46 AM (in response to JGRnaut_aks)
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    I probaly have been killed once or twice by final stand. Big whoop, it is not hard to kill someone in final stand, for ***** sake you can throw a concussion grenade and he will die. It is not that diffcult. I get killed by dead mans hand all the time, It isnt bullshit, It's funny to me espcially when its the round ending kill. Lmao looks awesome. On a more serious note deathstreaks need to be in the game to give opposing sides a chance back in the game. I can see points how you should not be rewarded for dieing, but really its in all fairness. I hardly get them and hardly die by them. Deathstreaks are like whatever to me.

    • ryanjm58 Novice 213 posts since
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      Feb 1, 2012 12:48 PM (in response to QuickscopingChild)
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      If you've only been killed once or twice by final stand then you probably haven't spent enough time with the game. Or you never pull host. Pull host and empty a clip into some guy who is skipping all around your sights as you drop frames, then have him drop and fire immediately as you're switching to your sidearm/reloading/chunking a grenade, then you'll realize why so many people hate that ****. And dead man's hand is bullshit. If you're an smg or a shotgun user and you happen across a guy who has been getting his ass kicked, he's almost guaranteed a kill for doing nothing.

  • TheBeastlyDude Master 2,319 posts since
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    Feb 1, 2012 12:54 PM (in response to JGRnaut_aks)
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    Final Stand is never going to go because the community uses it quite often. As long as the number of users outweighs the number of people who complain (not the number of times one complains), it will never go away.

     

    I personally use Final Stand with Hardline Pro (3 drops and I am in Final Stand) because I know how much it annoys people. Same with Deathhand. As long as it is a way to grief people and people keep allowing it to give them grief instead of getting over it, it will keep being a dominate deathstreak.

  • TheBeastlyDude Master 2,319 posts since
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    Feb 1, 2012 12:56 PM (in response to JGRnaut_aks)
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    JGRnaut_aks wrote:

     

    2 minutes ago I was playing a match and using the spas-12 in Fallen, the back part of the map with the 2 walkways through a big building, one a long sniper spot up to the main building with 2 windows up top and the other walkway has a small car on one side, OK so I round the corner where the car is and what do I see, an enemy crouched with their back to me, so I ran up with my spas, one shot to the back of the neck and kept running because come on let's get serious for a second here a shot gun blast to the back of the neck is definite death but what happens....I run past, and OH SH!T they go into final stand and akimbo fmg my a$$.

    Thanks for reiterating the stereotype that if someone gets killed by something, they run onto the forums and complain about it.

  • supersayia Novice 178 posts since
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    Feb 1, 2012 4:48 PM (in response to JGRnaut_aks)
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1_giiN31_cQ

     

    2011: **** you TreyArch I'm going back to MW2, IW are better

    2012: **** you IW I'm going back to Black Ops, TreyArch are better

    See you all in MW3 next year, idiots.

    The guy on youtube who wrote this comment is saying the truth I for one will no longer be giving my money to Activision.

     

    The video shows how much Rober Trowling is a liar and ***** all he cares about is money he lied to so many people.

    • mike030270 Apprentice 801 posts since
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      Feb 1, 2012 5:13 PM (in response to supersayia)
      Re: Final Stand is Bullsh!t

      Remember

      Last Stand:

      -Applies any time you're about to die.

      -Starts off with Secondary weapon.  Pro allows Primary.

      -But you die anyway.

       

      Final Stand:

      -Have to have triggered the deathstreak to get it.

      -Allows Primary weapon at all times.

      -You survive long enough and you heal fully.

       

      They got rid of last stand but kept final stand.

  • Calculating status... 2 posts since
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    Feb 1, 2012 4:46 PM (in response to JGRnaut_aks)
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    its the worst finalstand yet though , now they have main weopen we see one handed , while they really two handed still so can aim easy and everything thts wats annoying , the one handed scoped sniper makes me laugh everytime

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