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  • ilikedbomore Novice 102 posts since
    Jan 27, 2012
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    2,610. Jan 31, 2012 3:27 PM (in response to gioboom)
    Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Notes

    that looks really weird

  • ilikedbomore Novice 102 posts since
    Jan 27, 2012

    -baddress

    well that s awesome explanation

     

    but explain this, why in year 2012, we cant have good multiplayer gameplay on what is suppossed to be best FPS of year at least, with all of corporation s resources and money....

     

    something stinks here

  • dedicatedserversplease Master 6,422 posts since
    May 23, 2011

    For anyone who didnt know, I had the mod in MW2 that allowed you to view the FPS and the ping rate of everyone in the lobby.  What I noticed during that time was this.  When you were host, the FPS were a consistent 52-57 FPS on PS3. 

     

    The ping times were as follows and these are estimates as I did not write these down.

     

    Host:    Generally was between 30-50ms and a four bar connection.

     

    4 bar connection: was from about 80-150ms on average, normally 100ms+ the host ms would be the maximum for 4 bar connection, if that makes sense.  I never saw a secondary player other than the host on less than 75ms.

     

    3 Bar was generally 150-250ms if the host was 50ms.

     

    2 bar was generally 250-350ms if the host was 50ms

     

    1 bar was 350ms+

     

     

    This info is from firsthand witnessing the in game ping levels of players on MW2.  Take it as you will.  On average, most players in the lobby were between 130-230ms.  This is the reason why developers wont ever show gamers the ping they play on as player with three bars and 250ms would be like WTF!  I know I would which is why I still believe dedicated servers would be an improvement over the current method.

     

     

    P.S.  For everyones record, this is what I experienced running host on a DMZ, wired connection with my speedtest results being 65Mbps download, 15Mbps Upload and a 8ms ping to a server 50-75 miles away.

  • decisiveblow Expert 1,308 posts since
    May 24, 2011

    I believe the working day is starting to come to a close 'over there'...?

     

    Still no update/ETA on patch.

     

    (Getting bored whistling the same tune, but eventually something will come of it)

  • bo2000 Apprentice 872 posts since
    Jun 10, 2011
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    2,614. Jan 31, 2012 4:02 PM (in response to maccabi)
    Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Notes

    maccabi wrote:

     

    oh theres always got to be a smart ass to go ruin a perfectly flawed generalised statement hasn't there

     

    but agY is absolutely correct *note to self sometimes generalisations arent a good idea

    For some understanding how things "should be" generalised statements are just fine. Exceptions to the rules make things thrilling though. Sometimes even annoying. Me and 4 friends came over from BF3 (EAs dedicated servers suck bit time) to find out that the .3 hotfix shows no improvement to finding good matches when in a party (we all live closeby) and got matched to 150ms lobbys with frech guys (we're from germany) and it was spray & pray. 4bars were players were ok but hitting 2 3bar players required extended mags. We won a few rounds and eventually they left and more german players entered and that's when things really got awefull. Frameskipping and teleporting all over the place and really strong fluctuation in ping. One started with a red bar and after the countdown he was on 4bars and nearly invincible. They thought we were foreign players since we kept quiet in the lobby and talked about software that introduced lag. Of course they got reported but I guess whatever devs are doing doesnt mix well with selfbrewed remedies. I hate such guys.

  • Novice 111 posts since
    Dec 20, 2011
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    2,615. Jan 31, 2012 4:23 PM (in response to bo2000)
    Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Notes

    bo2000 wrote:We won a few rounds and eventually they left and more german players entered and that's when things really got aweful. Frameskipping and teleporting all over the place and really strong fluctuation in ping. One started with a red bar and after the countdown he was on 4bars and nearly invincible. They thought we were foreign players since we kept quiet in the lobby and talked about software that introduced lag. Of course they got reported but I guess whatever devs are doing doesnt mix well with selfbrewed remedies. I hate such guys.

    Unfortunately, this exists in MW3 as well. According to Ghandi it's possible to detect and they may start banning for it. Fingers crossed...

  • baddress Apprentice 153 posts since
    Jan 18, 2012
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    2,616. Jan 31, 2012 4:29 PM (in response to bo2000)
    Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Notes

    Yes this is why I posted previously that I fear we may be past the window of opportunity for any real fixes, now that people are gaming the compensation system.

     

    The sad thing is that while I'm sure there would always be a small number of folks gaming the system, there would never have been such widespread use or public knowledge of this type of cheating had the system simply worked properly from the get-go.

  • ondsnap Apprentice 351 posts since
    Sep 22, 2011

    @ GHANDI....You said you would find out about the PS3 patch and give us some type of ETA today, Monday.  Please let us know what is going on.  I have never heard of a patch taking 2 weeks to get approved by Sony.  Or is it not going to come out until the DLC is released for the PS3 Elite users?

  • ondsnap Apprentice 351 posts since
    Sep 22, 2011

    By the way, also let us know what is going on with a patch for the PS3 version of MW2.  It's hacked all to hell and since it's my favorite game of all time, I can't play it anymore due to UAV hack, etc.  To tell you how much I love that game, I have over 58 DAYS of online play....if you can't fix MW3's lag issues.  Please for the love of GOD, fix MW2.  Thanks in advance for your reply.

  • maccabi Master 11,769 posts since
    May 31, 2011

    just going to threw this put there...

     

    EMP in the support package.. lasts way too long and is too easy to get

     

    if you play an objective mode especially you can find half the game is emp'ed if a couple of people have support equipped.

     

    imo emp should be 30 secs max and while im here stealth bomber should not be in the support package at all you want to kill things equip assualt or specialist, or if it is right at the end as it enables the user to get the remaining points needed to get the last killstreaks easily. support end killstreaks should be really 20-24 points not the high teens .

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