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Feb 1, 2012 8:08 AM

How to Win Operations

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSnfRV116e8&feature=related

 

Long video by oTradeMark but if you have the time I found this to be very insightful, especially if you're the kind of person who trolls comment boards with the word "impossible". Watch this mofo score caps.

  • PSNSniggler Novice 100 posts since
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    Jan 30, 2012 1:58 PM (in response to VancePants)
    Re: How to Win Operations

    At 1:56 in the video he gets +37 points. This isn't even an obtainable score. Right there should tell you something is fishy about the gameplay.

     

    150 points for capping

    50 points for kills

    10 points for assists

     

    Also, when he is talking about his strategy and how he won the Jeep, he states "we won the jeep". He wouldn't use the word "we" unless he was doing these competitions with a partner in the terms of boosting. At 14:58 in the video he says the adjusted "our strategy" again highlighting the fact that he was doing these competitions with partners. Then, goes on to say how "we lost by nine defends." Essentially the strategy is getting a bunch friends together to let him get all of the kills, defends, etc. He would not being using "we" and "our" if this was not the case.

      • PSNSniggler Novice 100 posts since
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        Jan 30, 2012 3:37 PM (in response to VancePants)
        Re: How to Win Operations

        Obviously he won't show gameplay where his teammates don't do anything and let him get all the defends, kills, tags, etc. According to Beachhead, that is a form of boosting and should be reported.

         

        Anyway, you completely ignore the biggest problem with the video which is him getting a mysterious +37 after capping a flag. This happens not once, but twice in the video. Makes me wonder if he has some sort of hack where capping one flag counts as multiple caps.

          • PSNSniggler Novice 100 posts since
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            Jan 31, 2012 9:15 AM (in response to VancePants)
            Re: How to Win Operations

            VancePants wrote:

             

            And never mind the "hack" you're thinking about - you can SEE him score about 50-60 captures in a single Arkaden game. At that rate, It would be easy to rake in a thousand caps in an Operation period.

            I did not SEE him get 50-60 captures in the Arkaden game. Did you watch the same video I did?

              • PSNSniggler Novice 100 posts since
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                Jan 31, 2012 1:35 PM (in response to VancePants)
                Re: How to Win Operations

                VancePants wrote:

                 

                300mins (op duration) / 7 min games = (approx) 25 games x 20caps per game = 500 caps

                 

                this is generous, and you can see in operation 588 https://elite.callofduty.com/compete/operations/view/588 oTradeMark scores only 341 and takes 2nd.

                To be exact he got 21 captures in 10 minutes. About 20-30 seconds of the video he stops showing the game and shows how to report cheaters. So the game time is closer to  9:30, however, it takes 20-30 seconds to gather your group together and get into another lobby. Who says that next lobby won't have the intermission timer/ be in the middle of a game? So I am going to say it is 10 minutes per a game for the numbers. Personally, I think finishing games in 12 minutes would be more resonable based off lobbies and intermission.

                 

                180 mins (most ops are only 3 hours long)/ 10 min games = 18 games x 21 caps = 378 caps under ideal situations

                 

                Remember this is under the most ideal situations where you are getting into a lobby that is just about to start game (hard to do with a full party often times you will be stuck creating your own lobby with a full 1 minute timer.) Secondly, 21 caps every single game is hard to pull of consistently because from my experience when my team takes a huge lead the enemies will stop going for captures and just go for kills. Not once during the entire video did a player on the enemy team decide to break the circle flow. B is the most important on almost all maps and thus enemies would tend to go for that over constantly following the patter of C, B, A, C, etc. Often times enemies will go for C, then try to cap B and hold those two. They won't even go for A as it will lead to screwing up spawn points.

                 

                On a side note you need to learn math. 300/7 = ~43 not 25.

    • Calculating status... 1 posts since
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      Mar 3, 2012 3:31 AM (in response to PSNSniggler)
      Re: How to Win Operations

      Considering you guys are all talking about me I felt I would join in on the conversation... I don't know why the +37 points happened on that dom cap...  but now I know where all the comments asking about it in my video came from.

       

      I lost that operation by like 40 captures.  I was just posting games from different operations so people could start thinking "outside the box" on what is actually required to win these operations.

    • otrademark Newbie 18 posts since
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      Mar 3, 2012 3:36 AM (in response to PSNSniggler)
      Re: How to Win Operations

      Considering you guys are all talking about me I felt I would join in on the conversation... I don't know why the +37 points happened on that dom cap...  but now I know where all the comments asking about it in my video came from.

       

      Besides, I lost that operation by like 40 captures.  I was just posting games from different operations so people could start thinking "outside the box" on what is actually required to win these operations.  Also the "numbers" you are spitting out are completely false and based upon nothing but assumptions.  That game was one of my best during that operation, not the average.

       

      In regards to all of this talk about "WE" yes I play certain operations with a team.  This is not anything I have ever tried to hide.  It is in the elite FAQ's that playing with your teammates is allowed.

  • otisman666 Master 9,040 posts since
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    Jan 31, 2012 7:56 AM (in response to VancePants)
    Re: How to Win Operations

    This is just another lack of insight on both IW and Beachhead's part.  When the lone wolf operations were taking place back during the B.O. BETA, we had opened a support ticket (the only way to communicate with the Elite guys) suggesting that Lone Wolf operations should be run in a Mercinery playlist.  Obviously, like many other suggestions this was discarded, ignored or just plain never read or understood.  We had two guys win "Golden Tickets" to the COD:PROM and quickly acknowledged that the system was indeed broken.

     

    So what they have now is a joke of a competitive structure that promotes a form of somewhat legal boosting.  But it is not honorable, simply because every competitor is not afforded the opportunity of doing what guys with willing teams can do.

     

    I would like to think that Beachhead is being prudent with holding back on Clan Operations at this point because they attempting to develop a better structure for these competitions to run under, but I am skeptical to say the least.

    • otrademark Newbie 18 posts since
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      Mar 3, 2012 3:38 AM (in response to otisman666)
      Re: How to Win Operations

      It is not honorable?  Are you serious right now?  Don't push some imaginative moral code upon me because I play an operation with a team which isn't against the rules.

       

      I will be the first person to admit that Lone Wolf Operations should move to a locked mercenary playlist with join in progress disabled, but until BHS & IW/SH decide to do that I will play to win... and do that within the bounds of what BHS has deemed fair.

  • Novice 230 posts since
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    Jan 31, 2012 8:24 AM (in response to VancePants)
    Re: How to Win Operations

    It is like listening to my old High schoolfootball coach!!!! LMAO.

     

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  • Calculating status... 1 posts since
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    Jan 31, 2012 9:10 AM (in response to VancePants)
    Re: How to Win Operations

    What should really be introduced is a competition playlist. In this playlist the intermission can be reduced to 15 seconds instead of 60 seconds. Also tac inserts can be disabled during this time. Mercenary rules or team rules doesn't matter after you take away the tac inserts. Plus people playing in the competition can report players that are boosting/cheating while playing against them. And it would be easier for the reviewers to go through the videos and catch the cheaters.

  • Newbie 38 posts since
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    Jan 31, 2012 9:59 AM (in response to VancePants)
    Re: How to Win Operations

    If he "supposedly" won this jeep then why is he talking about winning wicked defender matches when he mentions it? Seems how the Jeep was for core tdm that makes no sense...

    • otrademark Newbie 18 posts since
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      Mar 3, 2012 3:39 AM (in response to Dead636)
      Re: How to Win Operations

      Actually, the COD XP Jeep Showdown in the beta was a Domination Defends event... and this video showcases many different gametypes because I have won operations related to several different gametypes.

  • Killuminati622 Newbie 12 posts since
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    Jan 31, 2012 11:59 AM (in response to VancePants)
    Re: How to Win Operations

    As PSNsniggler brought up, is there any explanation as to why he gets +37 in the game? There is no combination of anything that happens in the game that would give you an odd amount of points like that. It also makes me feel like everything is not on the up and up.

  • PSNSniggler Novice 100 posts since
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    Jan 31, 2012 5:53 PM (in response to VancePants)
    Re: How to Win Operations

    It should also be noted that this guy uses scuf controllers which is a modded controller that has extra buttons. That right there, although technically is not illegal (mainly because they cannot catch you using it), tells me he essentially cheats for his rankings in competitions.

  • otrademark Newbie 18 posts since
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    Mar 3, 2012 4:14 AM (in response to VancePants)
    Re: How to Win Operations

    PS... I thought this thread was longer... I see that it is pretty much just PSNsniggler hating on me post after post.

     

    I don't know what I did to upset you so much... but your assumptions about me are off based...

     

    Keep drinking your haterade.

  • mccul1701 Apprentice 447 posts since
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    Mar 3, 2012 5:55 AM (in response to VancePants)
    Re: How to Win Operations
    • Boosting/Collusion - Working with other players to artificially elevate a player’s or group of players’ score.
    • otrademark Newbie 18 posts since
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      Mar 6, 2012 11:41 AM (in response to mccul1701)
      Re: How to Win Operations

      Cool, I can quote information too:

       

      Info: Playing Lone Wolf Operations with Friends

      Yes, you can play with your friends in Lone Wolf Operations; however, competitors must not undermine the spirit and integrity of the game mode. Please be aware that only your stats will count towards the Operations and we will be checking for any collusion or cheating with your friends.

       

      Artificially elevating a player's score by having players on the other team let you get kills, defends or caps is boosting... Working with players on your own team with everyone going for an objective is not.

       

      Considering I have won 6 championships and dozens of prizes I'm pretty sure I'm not doing anything they classify as Boosting.

  • sabitoh Novice 28 posts since
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    May 14, 2012 5:11 AM (in response to VancePants)
    Re: How to Win Operations

    Respect for you(r) team gameplay!

    Only strange thing is the 37 cap points u got ?

     

    But know they changed the Terms and you cant win anymore 1000k price's  only 1 once a year, what do you think about that?

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