Too many people dont PTFO, and instead will finish with 10 kills, 2 deaths, 0 caps. How is that helping your team? If you can play the objective, get kills and get the win, I see nothing wrong with that.

People who play KC and either kill someone CQC and dont move the five feet to pick up the tag, or worse the ones who will run PAST tags, are a different story entirely. Your job is to pick up the tags to win. In KC you have to continually play the objective.

I find it funny that people cry about other people crying.

But seriously. Its not the people who cap a flag, and defend it. Its the people who run past all flags tos et up a spawn trap.

Or my fav (like last night) we won 5 games in a row while one guy on the other team kept saying "I have a beter KD than you whole team". This was teh guy who sat in a corner and went 20-6 with just under 1500 pts while every1 on my team (was only 5 of us) had over 3k and the win.

When we said "This is Dom, not TDM. You lost. Again." he came back with the usual. "Well I dont care, Im just here to finish my guns." Those are the peopel every1 hates. Non team playing jackoffs who dont care about the game but only join for themselves. The people who camp an enemies flag waiting for them to spawn on it while his team has 1 flag and is losing 100-30. Those are the people who are complained about.

Not the people who kill and play the objectives. Nothing wrong with them.

Exactly Salemln said, I don't care about people who get lots of kills but aim to win

As I said in my post an hour ago, its the people that only want to take advantage of people trying to win by just sitting in corners not caring about the objective, just as long as they can say to their friends at the end of the night....My K/D ratio is xxx and better than everybody on my list

I agree with the premise that there are too many people who care more about K/D in objective games rather than securing/defending the objectives themselves. I am, admittedly, new to the game. And when I started playing MW3 and got into Domination, I was confused, since I am a "random" and it seemed that Domination was a fun game, provided you actually played to the spirit of the match type.

The truth is, as I see it, is you need people on every team who know how to get kills. I am not one of them. I have a paltry K/D, so I currently stick to trying to offer support, both literally with my class selection and also with my method of play. That means to secure/defend two objectives and try not to die a million times each match.

However, I do have an issue, a little bit, with being on randomized teams where a fair % of the squad is there just to camp and boost their K/D. I've been on several teams/lobbies where I'll finish something like 12/19 k/d but 2nd or 3rd in points for my team, while the dude with the most kills goes 45/5 and we lose. This seems to happen semi-often, in fact. Objective-based games lend themselves to campers very easily, obviously, since they know a general vicinity where to be. I don't have a problem with that if they are supporting the cause, but too often, they are just parading around the maps looking for kills, securing one objective, the first, and that's it. That I do have an issue with, noob or not.

Until devs learnt that they need to remove k/d completely from objective games then people are still going to get their k/d up by playing them.

And by completely remove I mean completely. Not even have it count towards their overall k/d.

The problem with this game is that the scoreboards only show k/d rather than captures/bomb plants/bomb defuses etc.

what's ASSHATTERY?

Listen, as long as fpses like cod, campers will be around.  I've said this before; IW attacked camping like SOPA attacked piracy.  It didnt solve the problem and it introduced a lot more, in the form of shoddy maps and (synonym for bad) spawns.  You cannot kill camping, it is viewed by many (perhaps not by you guys, but by many campers including me) as a legitimate gametype, and we will continue playing this way as long as people try for objectives.

most COD players don't have any skill so they resort to hiding in corners to get easy kills and then they have the nerve to call it skill, lol.  Most are very afraid to hurt their K/D ratio.  Most of the people on my friends list will not play anything other than HC deathmatch because they say playing Dom or HQ or whatever will hurt their K/D, even though as a team together we would win 99% of the time, but they are too scared to hurt their K/D. 

It's pretty pathetic.  Why I hardly ever play this game, well besides the lag, that killed it first.

I assume the archives hold many gem-like threads and posts like this one.

Payback is a b*tch, huh?