I'm trying to understand how prizes are being offered when this lag comp is affecting people's reaction time, hit marker recognition, and plain old robbing people of kills. To me, the better and higher ur connection is, the more lag conp u get. And having a 45 down/35 upload with an average 8ms ping, I get a lot of lag comp given to me. But again, how is it fair that I'm being punished because I get afford good internet? If I have a Lamborghini and u have Prius, I'm pretty sure I should win. But in this game, it's the opposite. Not my fault I have good Internet and it shouldn't be the game's fault that u cant keep up, so why I'm a being punished??

vims1990 wrote:

 

Yes, it sucks when you come across players with average to crappy internet. I've seen 3 & 2 bar players in my lobbies completely demolish our team who are ALL 4 barring off my host connection.

 

I've mentioned in previous posts that both theater & Elite are causing these sync issues.

Think about it...COD titles before Black Ops did not have all these added features but ran SO much smoothly.

 

For me, I've been playing much slowly than I normally do in previous COD titles.

Not by sitting in a corner of course but using Sitrep Pro, using Astro A40 headsets basically soundwhoring & pre-firing the shite out of players.

What's great about it is that alot of players run either Steady Aim or Stalker so it's easy kills for me.

Neither theater nor Elite have any measurable effect on in game performance. No client or host bandwidth is utilized in MW3 to perform these functions during a session.

Cheers,

G IH A IN ID II

Ugotstretched wrote:

 

Im always a step behind was hoping the net code tweak would help but it didnt.  Just go back to the mw2 setup.  Bottomline the better your internet the worse the lag comp.  i was talking to someone who i was unable to hit in a lobby and i asked him whats his upload download lol he said 2 down 1 up.  My connection is 35 times his.  How am i ever gonna be on the same level with that

Ugostretched,

RIght here you have hit squarely on the head the problem any online 'twitch' competetive game faces nowadays be it listen server or dedicated infrastructure based: the vast disparity between the quality of connection available to players. This is the problem all online game designers face nowadays. This disparity didn't exist to the same degree even 2 years ago and was virtually non existent in the MW1 era. Is it fair that those with high quality ISPs should win automatically? No. Is it equally fair that those with entry level ISP performance automatically win? Also no. The challenge we face is to ensure the balance between these extremes is equitable for all and this is a non trivial problem. This is what we continue to work on. Add to the problem that many people are artificially employing a more sophisticated version of lag switching by artificially throttling their upload bandwidth either via router settings or other means and the problem is exacerbated.

We have other fixes and optimizations queued up which we believe will help,and will continue to work on the problem.

Best,

G IH A IN ID II

G IH A IN ID II wrote:

 

Ugotstretched wrote:

 

Im always a step behind was hoping the net code tweak would help but it didnt.  Just go back to the mw2 setup.  Bottomline the better your internet the worse the lag comp.  i was talking to someone who i was unable to hit in a lobby and i asked him whats his upload download lol he said 2 down 1 up.  My connection is 35 times his.  How am i ever gonna be on the same level with that

Ugostretched,

 

RIght here you have hit squarely on the head the problem any online 'twitch' competetive game faces nowadays be it listen server or dedicated infrastructure based: the vast disparity between the quality of connection available to players. This is the problem all online game designers face nowadays. This disparity didn't exist to the same degree even 2 years ago and was virtually non existent in the MW1 era. Is it fair that those with high quality ISPs should win automatically? No. Is it equally fair that those with entry level ISP performance automatically win? Also no. The challenge we face is to ensure the balance between these extremes is equitable for all and this is a non trivial problem. This is what we continue to work on. Add to the problem that many people are artificially employing a more sophisticated version of lag switching by artificially throttling their upload bandwidth either via router settings or other means and the problem is exacerbated.

 

We have other fixes and optimizations queued up which we believe will help,and will continue to work on the problem.

 

Best,

 

G IH A IN ID II

Just tried playing MW2 this weekend, it was near perfect. I was host maybe two games, all good hosting or not hosting. No one had huge advantage or disadvantage.

Then i played MW3, i was half a clip behind, died behind corners. When hosting and when not hosting. Its unplayable.

I Would go back to MW2 but its full of cheaters / hackers. (on PS3) This is also another thing IW promised to patch, but they didnt. Is this lag comp the same? You say you are gonna fix it but do nothing? Did you get updates on the PS3 patch?

Thanks.

Here is how I see this issue. The Infinity Ward team is trying to balance out extremely good connections and poor connections by artificially giving the poor connection an advantage, while hindering the good connection. I understand the good intention behind this decision, but see how this is and will always be a problem.

     It is in everyone's best interest to obtain the most optimum connection they possibly can. They do so for many reasons outside of the Call of Duty gaming experience. Streaming videos, downloading large files, using Skype to communicate with friends- these are all good reasons to pursue a good connection. Now this game comes along that has many people feeling as if they are being punished for trying to make the gaming experience the best they can. This is the equivalent of making the games audio quality poor and only mono, because not everyone can afford an expensive 7.1 surround sound system or a nice pair of Astro A40s (perhaps this is why we cannot control the games volumes independently!).

     Players are now artificially dumbing down their connection in a vain attempt to level the playing field versus someone who does not strive to obtain a decent connection to be competitive in this game. Infinity Ward must now come up with elaborate methods to detect players who are throttling their connection. Is this not the exact opposite direction good development should go? Good players, who try their best to have the best gaming experience, and in turn provide the best hosting experience for the rest of the players in their lobby, must be punished- while those that play casually and could care less about their connection, are rewarded. Not just rewarded, but handed the game on a silver platter.

     I believe that Infinity Ward should approach this problem from the opposite perspective. They should give players an incentive to be host. Players should want to have the best connection they can get. Everyone would benefit in the end.

     Players would still complain about lag, they would complain about host advantage- but this wouldn't be because the game is inherently programmed to make them be at a disadvantage, it would be something that they could actually do something about.

     More importantly, why is the compensation that is received by the poorly connected player so much? It seems that Infinity Ward approached this fly problem with a baseball bat.