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5588 Views 43 Replies Latest reply: Apr 11, 2012 3:03 AM by ShankDaddyMack RSS
Newbie 44 posts since
Nov 26, 2011
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Jan 16, 2012 9:00 AM

GM: Screw Welfare Package

We need a gamemode to make it so Support can not be used.

 

It works like this:

 

All support packages auto go to UAV-Care Package-Predator Missle during gameplay.

 

8-12 players

 

Random gamemodes of below:

 

TDM

KC

DOM

HQP

CTF

S&D

DEM

SAB

 

Support Numbers: (Tallys)(5 in center means five)

 

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  • cryo70 Expert 1,054 posts since
    Sep 2, 2011
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    Jan 16, 2012 9:02 AM (in response to FPSChaotic)
    Re: GM: Screw Welfare Package

    Dude, why do you hate on Support? It prevents camping! If you don't like pointstreaks go play Barebones!

     

    I think we need a gamemode where Assault can't be used and everyone must use either Support or Specialists.  There will also be deathstreaks.  I would name this "Anti-Camper Barebones".

      • JetEye Expert 507 posts since
        Dec 22, 2011
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        Jan 16, 2012 9:18 AM (in response to FPSChaotic)
        Re: GM: Screw Welfare Package

        Without the Support strike package, MOABs would be far far far to easy!  Support is what balances everything out.  What are you talking about, "support makes it so people can play with no skill and get to much exp. "  Support streaks have to be earned just like Assault streaks...by shooting down air support, capping bases, destroying equipment, planting the bomb, etc.  You just want to be able to kill whore.   Suppor does exactly what it's designed to do.  It rewards those who actually focus on the objective and support their team.  People who are focused on the objective, not killing, are going to obviously be more succeptable to deaths.  They shouldn't be rewarded at all?  Those who only focus on killing and not the objective should be the only ones rewarded?  HAHAHAHAHAHA

        • BigHeadN Apprentice 486 posts since
          Nov 28, 2011
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          Jan 17, 2012 8:28 AM (in response to JetEye)
          Re: GM: Screw Welfare Package

          JetEye wrote:

           

          Without the Support strike package, MOABs would be far far far to easy!  Support is what balances everything out.  What are you talking about, "support makes it so people can play with no skill and get to much exp. "  Support streaks have to be earned just like Assault streaks...by shooting down air support, capping bases, destroying equipment, planting the bomb, etc.  You just want to be able to kill whore.   Suppor does exactly what it's designed to do.  It rewards those who actually focus on the objective and support their team.  People who are focused on the objective, not killing, are going to obviously be more succeptable to deaths.  They shouldn't be rewarded at all?  Those who only focus on killing and not the objective should be the only ones rewarded?  HAHAHAHAHAHA

          I use assault about 75% of the time and I completely agree.

        • ExtremistJoker Novice 60 posts since
          Apr 6, 2012
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          Apr 10, 2012 8:27 PM (in response to JetEye)
          Re: GM: Screw Welfare Package

          i agree with you 100%

      • avengedyesterday Master 3,962 posts since
        Sep 8, 2011
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        Jan 17, 2012 9:07 AM (in response to FPSChaotic)
        Re: GM: Screw Welfare Package

        FPSChaotic wrote:

         

        support makes it so people can play with no skill and get to much exp. Deathstreaks im fine with, assault takes more skill then support. I want you to try to get a osprey gunner faster easier then you can get a gay *** Escort Airdrop. I have used support before, but when i took assault i loved it. I try to get M.O.A.B's in domination and when im on a high pointstreak i get tagged! I do not camp it isn't anti-camping.

         

        Its like saying all people that use assassin camp, i use Blind Eye, and Assassin and i run around and kick ***, i use specailist and assault but never support. Support is welfare.

         

        Lol you are flaming people who use support because it takes no skill? Yet you run around with assassin and blind eye. Good one.

         

        You use carepackage too, lol okay.

         

        Either way any one can do well in MW3 it was made that way. Believe it or not the most people i see using support are good players.

  • TL_Bare_B_V2 Apprentice 874 posts since
    Jan 11, 2012
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    Jan 16, 2012 9:10 AM (in response to FPSChaotic)
    Re: GM: Screw Welfare Package

    I used support packages for my first 6 prestiges as an objective player these make sense as over half the time I'm the only one capping objective.

  • JEadz Novice 305 posts since
    Dec 28, 2011
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    Jan 16, 2012 9:12 AM (in response to FPSChaotic)
    Re: GM: Screw Welfare Package

    sounds like a great idea to me!........................

     

     

    wait no it sounds ******* retarded

  • justinsanev2 Expert 1,813 posts since
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    Jan 16, 2012 9:21 AM (in response to FPSChaotic)
    Re: GM: Screw Welfare Package

    What I'm getting from this thread:

     

    "Waaaah!!!  A no skillz Support user tagged me with a Recon Drone and prevented me from getting a MOAB!  BAN THE SUPPORT CLASS!"

  • josh1073 Expert 1,063 posts since
    Jun 23, 2011
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    Jan 16, 2012 9:23 AM (in response to FPSChaotic)
    Re: GM: Screw Welfare Package

    i got a idea why dont we take out guns ,perks,kill streaks,equiptment.,multiplayer there the perfect cod but wait there is still grass fuk just sell a blank dvd that says mw4 the thing is people will ***** about anything from the mini map to guns

  • jwaller123 Master 2,753 posts since
    Aug 9, 2011
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    Jan 16, 2012 6:53 PM (in response to FPSChaotic)
    Re: GM: Screw Welfare Package

    You keep talking about getting a M.O.A.B. and that the support package keeps you from doing that, well...I don't know what to tell you. There are only four lethal streaks in support and they are all totally avoidable.

    Airdrop Trap...Simple, don't take anyones care package

    Remote Turret...I personally never see these used

    Stealth Bomber...You can hear it coming from miles away and there is plenty of time to get to cover

    Escort Airdrop...Don't go near where they are dropping the care packages and it won't shoot you.

     

    Appears to me you are just irritated because someone killed you.

  • jwaller123 Master 2,753 posts since
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    Jan 16, 2012 7:04 PM (in response to FPSChaotic)
    Re: GM: Screw Welfare Package

    I just had to laugh when I read this. I took this quote from another thread. You should learn to take your own advice OP. I liked the last line inparticularly.

     

    FPSChaotic wrote:

     

    You have a point. This is the BEST CALL OF DUTY EVER though. Stop complaining and start understanding the fact all games have flaws and when those are fixed the game is near perfection. This game is easy to kill because you never mastered it. How do people get M.O.A.B's huh? By not dieing! Learn to play and stop complaining.

  • obzi Expert 1,045 posts since
    Nov 5, 2011
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    Jan 17, 2012 7:18 AM (in response to FPSChaotic)
    Re: GM: Screw Welfare Package

    OP, I think you just got OWNED by jwaller123!  (At least I think that's what you kids call it these days, I'm old and I loose track)

  • ShmanKs Novice 35 posts since
    Dec 21, 2011
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    Jan 17, 2012 7:44 AM (in response to FPSChaotic)
    Re: GM: Screw Welfare Package

    they award people for being bad at the game....i love getting my pavelow destroyed by someone who is 18-32 and detonated an emp, but there is no point in getting to mad over it, it happens all the time. They just wanted to make the game noob friendly

  • Esy Master 1,934 posts since
    Jan 16, 2012
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    Jan 17, 2012 7:53 AM (in response to FPSChaotic)
    Re: GM: Screw Welfare Package

    Agreed it would make MOABs a little too easy if it were not included.

     

    First thing is, where would the support killstreaks go? Especially the likes of EMP and EA? Merging them with assault wouldn't really work imo.

     

    Secondly, it would really encourage camping. New players who don't get many killstreaks would be frustrated with not getting them, and would be driven to sit somewhere they could guard the only way through.

     

    I realise these wouldn't be problems in a game mode, but I think making a game mode for everything people don't like is a terrible path for this game to take. Soon you'd have people calling for anti-camping lobbies, lobbies with certain weapons banned, deathstreaks disabled, etc.

  • mjw3786 Apprentice 619 posts since
    Sep 22, 2011
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    Jan 17, 2012 8:12 AM (in response to FPSChaotic)
    Re: GM: Screw Welfare Package

    think he comes back after that callout? LoL

     

    support is fine. assault encourages camping, which is a MUCH bigger problem than giving people with slower reflexes and less COD/FPS experience a chance to contribute to their team.

     

    if you want to play ultra competitive you can always go to the organized leagues where they remove a lot of the fluff. but then you won't have all the pub scrubs to shoot for your MOABs

  • scolia5044 Expert 1,366 posts since
    Jul 20, 2011
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    Jan 17, 2012 8:25 AM (in response to FPSChaotic)
    Re: GM: Screw Welfare Package

    Well i guess i treat my support package like its an assult because i seem too never go negative and yet im earning my stealth bomber and then Emp im atleast getting two of each a game back in mw2 i ran with the stealth bomber i beileve it took 8-9 kills too get

  • Tomnician Novice 211 posts since
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    Jan 17, 2012 8:45 AM (in response to FPSChaotic)
    Re: GM: Screw Welfare Package

    "Why can't I be even more of a kill whore!?" Seems like every other post is about some half-great twerp wanting to make it so that he doesn't die ever. With recommending how the game should make it so whatever does kill him is removed.

     

    I don't run support package.

     

    Alot of people want to play COD but quit cause of us, and how it's no fun to get washed out every time they try to play. Support has really giving them a chance to TRY and have fun. They still go negative and I still go positive why so many people complain?

  • Moon Head 92 Expert 1,021 posts since
    Oct 18, 2011
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    Jan 17, 2012 8:49 AM (in response to FPSChaotic)
    Re: GM: Screw Welfare Package

    I use Assault and Specialist when i play TDM, then i have two classes totally focused on the objective, seriously people the only thing i disagree about the support is the stealth bomber, then again i use the stealth to help defend them flags if i can't get to them in time.

  • Jallic Newbie 2 posts since
    Dec 16, 2011
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    Jan 17, 2012 8:55 AM (in response to FPSChaotic)
    Re: GM: Screw Welfare Package

    I don't agree, but I do agree than EMP needs to be 20 kills or higher, EMP is a game changing support streak. it is WAY to ******* powerful to be only at 18 kills and the ability to die 100 times inbetween those 18 kills. I think it should either be moved to assult, or make it require 20+ kills

    • Moon Head 92 Expert 1,021 posts since
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      Jan 17, 2012 9:06 AM (in response to Jallic)
      Re: GM: Screw Welfare Package

      18 for it is fine imho, just needs the time toned down, 60 seconds is too long.

    • trialstardragon Master 10,285 posts since
      May 26, 2011
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      Apr 11, 2012 3:00 AM (in response to Jallic)
      Re: GM: Screw Welfare Package

      You forget its not kills in support its points and those can be gained by kills or other things. So even moving it to 20 or even 25  would still make it very easy to get for most players.

       

      If I play kc or dom I can get a emp almost every game when I want to. Because instead of trying to whore kills, I kill anything, including equipment, and uavs and helis which earn points towards my emp, and so does caps, defends.

  • Toninn Newbie 20 posts since
    Dec 7, 2011
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    Jan 17, 2012 8:59 AM (in response to FPSChaotic)
    Re: GM: Screw Welfare Package

    Almost never use support, only classes on my profile that has support are classes that my girlfriend plays (basically a strike package for sissies), though escort airdrop and stealth bomber might be a good idea to remove, at least put the stealth bomber in assault... Everything else there is just helping your team and is good for people that don't do that well..

  • Newbie 15 posts since
    Nov 11, 2011
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    Jan 17, 2012 9:25 AM (in response to FPSChaotic)
    Re: GM: Screw Welfare Package

    Support is a great addition to those that are not as skilled as many people are. The issue we run into are the people that are skilled are using this to their advantage by doing remote/bomber/emp. They then go and defend themselves by saying they are helping the team....which yes is true, but you know that it isn't the real case.

     

    My suggestion is simple, make it so the Support Package is only allowed from levels 1-50 on each Prestige. Once you get to level 50(ACR unlock) the person should be more comfortable using Assault or Specialist. They setup Specialist so we cannot use it till level 20....so why not when you hit level 50 that you lose the ability to run Support.

    • Moon Head 92 Expert 1,021 posts since
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      Jan 17, 2012 9:44 AM (in response to Schenko7)
      Re: GM: Screw Welfare Package

      No they shouldn't do that for the simple reason, why shouldn't i just be as awarded for going for the objective, that means there is a probability i will die, but i'm being a team player, as the same person who can sit in a corner and rack up kills?

       

      The only thing i can think of to balance support, is remove stealth bomber, and ban it from TDM and Free 4 all, wouldn't you agree that's more fair?

  • SalemInChains Apprentice 907 posts since
    Oct 7, 2011
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    Jan 17, 2012 9:18 AM (in response to FPSChaotic)
    Re: GM: Screw Welfare Package

    I think camping for MOABs in objective games is more of a problem than some1 who plays the game correctly and is rewarded for it.

  • Newbie 13 posts since
    Jan 9, 2012
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    Jan 17, 2012 9:54 AM (in response to FPSChaotic)
    Re: GM: Screw Welfare Package

    Screw support and assault , hardline + specialist = **** ton of points

  • ExtremistJoker Novice 60 posts since
    Apr 6, 2012
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    Apr 10, 2012 8:36 PM (in response to FPSChaotic)
    Re: GM: Screw Welfare Package

    So basicaly you want someone on your team on dom. kill whoring not capping more then 1 flag then someone that could care less and always pushes the objective..

    Your one great COD player

  • deucedouglas Master 1,526 posts since
    Aug 15, 2011
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    Apr 11, 2012 1:16 AM (in response to FPSChaotic)
    Re: GM: Screw Welfare Package

    FPSChaotic wrote:

     

    I try to get M.O.A.B's in domination

     

    Ahhh. Now this thread makes sense.

  • infamy96797 Apprentice 238 posts since
    Jun 10, 2011
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    Apr 11, 2012 1:28 AM (in response to FPSChaotic)
    Re: GM: Screw Welfare Package

    they should take out uav from assault package

  • trialstardragon Master 10,285 posts since
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    Apr 11, 2012 2:55 AM (in response to FPSChaotic)
    Re: GM: Screw Welfare Package

    Not ever going to happen just so you can kill whore and feel special about doing so. You are not special you do not need or deserve a specal game mode just to make you happy. So either get over it or play barebones or quit playing the game.

  • ShankDaddyMack Expert 195 posts since
    Feb 17, 2012
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    Apr 11, 2012 3:03 AM (in response to FPSChaotic)
    Re: GM: Screw Welfare Package

    support and specialist makes it so u corner humpin object campers cannot just sit there all game...if u dont like it do as the others have told u and go play bare bones, or go cry...your choice

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