Jan 17, 2012 3:09 PM
What's going on? Pass this on to FourZeroTwo....
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Who on Earth thinks that giving someone credit for destroying friendly equipment is a good idea? How many times must I, we post to get this fixed.?Everytime I or anyone on my team would put down a friendly equipment down, this guy would destroy it and laugh. Now we have no way to retalliate because of Ricochet.
Speaking of Ricochet, you also ruined Hardcore with the friendly fire on airstrikes. They are totally useless without getting penalized for using them. You drop a precision and warn your team. They run into the bombing because they will not die. You die once, because a guy is in there. Because he does not die and is still in the middle of the bombing, you respawn and die again. Then he is still there yet, because he didn't die from the bombing, so you die a third time.
I totally get it, you hate Hardcore and the players that play it. This has got to stop. Give us a fix for these issues. Stop friendly destruction of equipment. Repair the Ricochet. Want an idea of how? If you team kill, that person must respawn. They do not get a count for death. They do not lose their killstreak. The teamkiller gets a point loss or a death. In airstrikes you only die once, not 3 "F"ing times. It is not that hard to figure this out.
Do you not play your own game and see that these things are so jacked up about it?
I really think that of all I post, this stuff rings the most true. Please help me out with this.
My only answer at the moment (and I KNOW you will hate it, so I say it in the nicest way possible) is to play core. Many of the reasons you stated are the biggest reasons I don't play hardcore modes. I have an itchy trigger finger (so I would richochet kill myself alot Lol) and I sometimes knife things before I see the emblem on top of the equipment. I have ventured in to HC here and there so I can only sympathize.
This is the only solution I see in the short term as well, until some of the aspects get addressed. I have not been a hardcore player since Call of Duty 4 when I played HC Headquarters often.
I do sympathize though, I am mainly a core Search and Destroy player. If there was some issue like the ones you have mentioned that I consider game mode breaking, I would be very unhappy with the state of the game. I hope they do listen to your concerns and find some way to address the issue.
I have not play any of the game type I use to play on cod 4 and WAW snice most map are to small for snipeing in I have just start the game so I play TD and KC manly now but I start to go back to SND and then hopely back to HCTD and HCSND wish it would go back to 3 team kill and that player kick out rether then have a death on dumb thing like some one walk out in front of they teammate as he shoting at someother play on the other team.
It is the itchy trigger friendly and griefers that made me think that Ricochet was a great idea. I changed my mind after a couple of games. The version we have now is a lazy fix. I would liek the suggestion that I posed implemented. I die way more now than I ever have before. Teammates have no regard or care when steping in front of you while you are firing. The teammates are slashing equipment intentionally as they are rewarded for it as if it were enemy equipment. For some reason peopel just can't stand when people enjoy anything. I cannot enjoy core either. I cannot stand shooting someone over and over to lose out because weapon is OPed, or a teammate gets the last bullet and I lsoe the kill. I want HC, without griefers.
I can see where your coming from. Even in core players have no regard for one another. Fortunatly for you AND them they do not die when they step in front of you. They lay in doorways, block you in rooms, etc...That will probably never change, so I learn to deal with it. Most of the time I don't think they realize they are doing it, if they know they are doing it then that's when I get upset. I try hard not to have an itchy trigger finger, (even in core) but if I don't see a name then they get shot at. Lol. There are also times when I get more assists then I can shake a stick at. That makes me rage a bit, but it evens out at the end of the day because I am sure I have stolen a few kills as well.
Dont use precision airstrikes, and definitely do not, ever, play core.
They don't care about your problems. They have your money. End of story.
It is complete horse **** that you can't use killstreaks because they will friendly fire kill you. It sucks that you can't use your equipment because some ass on your team is going to destroy it.....
I am seriously losing interest fast. Tonight I played HCDom and it was a bit of fun while we had a team together. When a few of them left it got old though.
shankupotomus wrote:
It is complete horse **** that you can't use killstreaks because they will friendly fire kill you. It sucks that you can't use your equipment because some *** on your team is going to destroy it.....
I am seriously losing interest fast. Tonight I played HCDom and it was a bit of fun while we had a team together. When a few of them left it got old though.
You can feel free to blame ricochet on the countless children that thought RPG teamkilling everyone in SND was the greatest invention since Anal Ease.
Please Feel free to stop Wiggy when he lies...
Dear wiseman Wiggy how would you solve the problem with friendly fire in HC?
I don't play HC myself just wondering how you would solve the problem.
timeload33 wrote:
Dear wiseman Wiggy how would you solve the problem with friendly fire in HC?
I don't play HC myself just wondering how you would solve the problem.
Best suggestion, put HC back to normal and start banning little FKers that TK on purpose. But as well all know, that's not going to happen.
That is the best solution though, pretty sure no one will argue with Wiggy on this point.
I agree, too bad they can't be just banned from HC, force them to play core only.
timeload33 wrote:
I agree, too bad they can't be just banned from HC, force them to play core only.
Agreed, they won't do that, because they know their butts will be handed to them in Core and they will lose "potential" customers.
Wiggy totally agrees with you, but not sure it's logistically possible, but worth looking into.
What are your thoughts on the friendly destruction of equipment and the fact that you get credit for an enemy kill when you destroy the item?
The best solution, IMHO, is to remove Ricochet from all of the HC modes except S&D. Place the "three team kill kick" rule into all of the other HC modes.
IW has ruined hardcore with this ricochet nonsense.
#restorehardcore
The only problem with that is they will just move on to the next game and be a troll there, block them from HC for 1 hour if they get kicked out of a match for TK.
They're trolling either way... If they can't TK you directly, they jump in front of you while you are shooting or run into your kill streaks, what's the difference?
Trolls will be trolls will be trolls...
#restorehardcore
yarderdunes wrote:
The best solution, IMHO, is to remove Ricochet from all of the HC modes except S&D. Place the "three team kill kick" rule into all of the other HC modes.
IW has ruined hardcore with this ricochet nonsense.
#restorehardcore
I hated the 3 kill kick as well. Though it is better than what we have now. I can't tell you how many times I would get a chopper gunner on nuke town and get kicked while using it. This game would not bea as bad for this situation due to the fact that your team is bright and they blink a bit while in the air.
I propose they make HC friendly fire, kill the one that is TKd and not count it as a death in the tally. Don't end their killstreak. Give the TKer negative points and a spawn delay if the TK is from carried weapons, but no death if it is a TK from equipment or Killstreaks.
Am I the only one who likes Richochet, it's the only reason i started playing HC to be honest, sure you get morons who run in front of you on purpose, but that's a small percentage to people who TK. Just don't use stealth bombers or air strikes in HC, it's quite simple really.
Moon Head 92 wrote:
Am I the only one who likes Richochet, it's the only reason i started playing HC to be honest, sure you get morons who run in front of you on purpose, but that's a small percentage to people who TK. Just don't use stealth bombers or air strikes in HC, it's quite simple really.
You are the only one. Ricochet is for S&D, not the other modes. It is lame that you can't use killstreaks because they don't have ricochet set up correctly. I don't use stealth as it is, unless it is in a care pacage. It is a welfare perk.
when someone destroyes my equipment ill block them into a corrner untill either they kill there self or an enemy kills us both. it getts the point across
I tried to tweet Fourzerotwo on this, but cannot. I haven't set up the account properly or something.
He won't answer anyway... poor bastard gets a zillion tweets a day.
I tweeted him about #restorehardcore earlier and no response.
yarderdunes wrote:
He won't answer anyway... poor bastard gets a zillion tweets a day.
I tweeted him about #restorehardcore earlier and no response.
Well, if he gets enough tweets that say the same thing, he may do something. Especially if it is somethign that makes sense.
I think players that team kill, get in the way, destroy equipment are total jerks and should be banned from the game hardcore.
Sadly the only thing they can do right now to me is to make it ricochet.
You do have the tools to mark there rep as avoid for team killing. Its not much but it helps a little and I can tell you that MS and Activision would tell you the same thing. to use the tools that MS gives you.
Otherwise you can look at their gamertag and since they are acting like children I am sure you will also find they modded their Avatar or something so you can get the last word in.
when you are joined in with a entire world of people in the same room mixing it up you are going to get jerks regardless of how many times you reroll the dice.
In my opinion you cant expect the devs to refereee every ahole you come in contact with so take a few steps of your own.