So to start off, i like to use weapons like sniper rifles and shotguns. My Model 1887 and AS50. Single fire weapons are probably the hardest to use in this game because if you miss your first shot.. your dead. Well i was sniping on bootleg with my ninja AS50 class, yes actually sniping and not quickscoping for easy kills, and i saw an enemy across the map just standing still so i pulled up my sniper rifle and popped him in the head... Nope doesn't kill him because he has a stupid ballistic vest on. Why would you add juggernaut(perk) into the game in the form of a killstreak? I don't mind taking on a BV when i have a fully auto weapon but when i am using a sniper rifle and i have to make the first shot count... nope doesn't matter.
Because of him surviving that shot, him and a few of his teammates rushed me and i died. If i would have killed him then i would have been able to run away before he respawned. I took the time to make my shot count and i am no longer rewarded for such things? I used a stealth sniper class in CoD4 and the worst problem was that if they had juggernaut then my headshot wouldn't kill them. Now i have the same problem in MW3 but with a stupid killstreak. It was a great idea on paper but now when i go to shotgun someone or snipe them, their immune to my first shot if they have BV on. If i could cancel out BV with a headshot then that would be perfect because then at least i could stand a chance against them.
I wish they would just remove it from MP but i know that won't happen. Hopefully IW will tweak it so it doesn't always over power single fire weapons. I love that its a way to use teamwork in this game but it seriously wasn't a good idea. I don't see how anyone could put up with this. Sure, the people with the BV are going to say to keep it how it is but seriously? It would have been a fair kill, regardless if i was sniping or not. Legitimately sniping is hard enough in this game as it is but now there is a killstreak that is pretty much anti-sniping. I will never run around like a panzy quickscoping because of how easy it is. I prefer to actually use a sniper rifle how it was intended to be used and take enemies out from afar.
ballistic vests are fine tbh sometimes i fire about 10 shots in to someone with a ump and just about kill them but your problem there is you have a suppresor on your sniper rifle.... if you had played on any other cod you could puty a suppresor on a sniper you would realise you can barley get a one shiot kill with ANY sniper ...
Your problem is that you're using a suppressed sniper. I think the damage modifiers for suppressed snipers are lower than unsuppressed sniper. The Barrett can kill in one shot to the stomach and above without a suppressor. With one equipped it needs to be chest (mayber upper chest) and above to get a single shot. Ballistic Vests simply give the player 30 more health until they take damage. Not everybody uses or even picks up the Ballistic Vest so this will rarely be a problem.
Well considering that the AS50 silenced is still a OHK with a silencer if you get a headshot.. thats not my problem. Its a VEST for the body, not the head. I just went horribly negative in TDM because they kept getting ballistic vests and i was using my 1887. Even a point blank shot from my model wasn't enough to kill them. BV is very OP in its current condition. There is no way to combat it except with fast firing weapons. But that means people who like to use precision are out of luck.
No, because i dropped two people from that same range in that same spot as they were trying to rush me to kill me. The suppresser was not the problem. Its the fact that something you put over your body somehow still protects your face.
doesnt matter if it doesnt cover their face. i found that out in BO. its basically the same way with Flak Jacket. i shot an RPG straight to a players face and i just got hitmarkers for it and the vest was on his chest.
so like i said, where the vest is doesnt matter. the vest counts for the whole body. plus the fact you used a suppressed rifle makes the damage lower. and it doesnt matter if you dropped other people from that range cuz that would most likely mean they didnt have a ballistic vest on.
The AS50 normally does 98 damage per shot, while suppressed it does 70. If you silence a sniper rifle it reduces damage and range. That's another thing that can reduce damage, you were pretty far back so even with a headshot you couldn't kill him. The vest adds 50 points of health so even if you got a headshot and you were closer you still wouldn't have killed him. Suppression is just an issue for sniper rifles, it really makes it hard to have that "Actually a sniper feel" if your damage is severely limited by using a silencer. In closing, the vest was doing it's job, but I do understand where you're coming from. I also think vests are a stupid KS.
what makes them stupid? i find that they work and work well. say you are getting ready to attack a bomb site in demo and you just happen to have vests in your pocket. you alert your squad, drop them in a strategic location, your squad rallies to that point and you all go in with an extra 50 hp each. what's stupid about that? and don't say "it throws off balance."
The only thing that needs to be fixed about the BV is the fact that sometimes I throw one down and no one can pick it up.Like I throw it into a box (with lid open) or under a desk and they cannot be picked up.
