Jan 9, 2012 7:21 PM
Quickscoping needs to be severly nerfed and the Striker needs work!!
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Rob bowling I hope you read this damn post because I'm about fed up with quickscoping. Anything that gives another player an advantage over another is what...cheating! Not everyone can QS so that right there is a huge negative, If i get killed before I can even ADS there is a huge problem. You ban people for boosting, and for the token glitch (which by the hurts no one and does not give any advantage over another) but this is acceptable? QS'ers complain that "assault rifles need recoil, and the ump is overpowered" but lifting and accurately firing a sniper rifle likes its a handgun makes sense? If they had they own lobby where they could do that crap that would be fine,or a set of gametypes that did not allow QSing that would be cool too. Black ops had the right idea, it actually made QS'ers work for the kill just like the rest of us. The whole point I'm trying to make is if not everyone can do it, it's an advantage and not FAIR. The striker is just too damn overpowered, too much range and damage. You seemed to go o the other extreme from MW2 where the striker was useless. How about you try somewhere in the middle now.
You got quickscoped and it made you mad didn't it?
No & no.
yea dude quickscoping is so OP that's why everyone who plays CoD competitively whether in tournaments or on GB does it right? ![]()
Wow learn how too shoot if you cant kill somone who is QuickScoping then you must suck there arent that hard too point out
In black ops they gradually reduced the nerf they put on snipers in the first place, and even before then I could quickscope just fine. If you want snipers to be realistic make everything else as well, only 1 life, no perks, no kill streaks, no regaining health ect. So just because not everyone can do it makes it unfair? I can accurately aim at distance pretty fast and not everyone can do that, should it be nerfed as well?
I am well aware that it is a game so realism is not the point here. Theres plenty of individuals that feel the same, blackops snipers had to use skill to kill you it was not anywhere as easy as MW2 and especially not MW3. Theres no getting around the fact that its a broken system and no amount of QS fanboys can make a justifiable argument otherwise. I'm not saying remove it but make it FAIR for everyone, is that too much to ask? Why not make there own lobbies to do that in and leave the rest of us that cant or don't want to do it alone? I lived with it in MW2 but lets face it the whole game was bugged, hacked, modded so that was the least of the problems. I refuse to deal with it here when bowling stated he wanted to make it better than MW2 and fix issues, well heres a big one. So I'm not going to argue with individuals with no intelligent or constructive comments. This is my opinion and others share my view so I'm not alone, hopefully 402 will come to his senses.
That would be the case if it was unfair in the first place. In a 1v1 situation and the sniper killed you he probably could have done it with just about any other gun faster and more efficiently. Either its easy and everyone can do it, or it's difficult and not everyone can do it. If it's so effective and easy whats unfair about it? Im assuming that since it's easy everyone can do it right?
>Not everyone can QS
There are things in this game many people can do and things few people can do. I can jump around a corner, drop, and aim at the same time is that unfair because not everyone can do it? You seem to be forgetting that not everyone is at the same skill level and treating everyone as if they were wouldn't be fair.
Shikhee_ wrote:
In black ops they gradually reduced the nerf they put on snipers in the first place, and even before then I could quickscope just fine. If you want snipers to be realistic make everything else as well, only 1 life, no perks, no kill streaks, no regaining health ect. So just because not everyone can do it makes it unfair? I can accurately aim at distance pretty fast and not everyone can do that, should it be nerfed as well?
This game is based on realism with aspects added to make it playable and have entertainment value. I sniper rifle weilding ninja is not needed. Respawns are. Hardcore doesn't have regaining health. Perks and Killstreaks also add to the fun factor.
shankupotomus wrote:
Shikhee_ wrote:
In black ops they gradually reduced the nerf they put on snipers in the first place, and even before then I could quickscope just fine. If you want snipers to be realistic make everything else as well, only 1 life, no perks, no kill streaks, no regaining health ect. So just because not everyone can do it makes it unfair? I can accurately aim at distance pretty fast and not everyone can do that, should it be nerfed as well?
This game is based on realism with aspects added to make it playable and have entertainment value. I sniper rifle weilding ninja is not needed. Respawns are. Hardcore doesn't have regaining health. Perks and Killstreaks also add to the fun factor.
>Perks and Killstreaks also add to the fun factor.
The same can be said about quick scoping. You know what a quick scope is right? You zoom in find a target then fire as fast as you can. Why would you want to go intentionaly slow when you can get the kill much faster? Again am i supposed to aim on you then wait for you to get a few shots off at me because your slow?
First of all most kill cams I have ever watched never does the person zoom in on the target. They dont even see the person through the actual scope. I am sure if I wanted to QS I could, would it take time to learn of course, but it is all abnout timing and aim assist. Other than that it is cheap, and just annoying. That is why I play HC cause it doesnt happen as much on that mode. Dont act like you look all the way into the scope when you know that is complete horse manure.
yea i don't understand, if it's so easy and overpowered why don't i see QS'ers at the top of every lobby? an average QSer is usually struggling to go positive especially when playing aggressively
So your trying to tell me that because I can snipe you, whether quickscope or hardscore, its unfair because you can't do it. What about if I throwing knife you, and you can't do it? Is that still cheating?
How about if I riot shield you, and you can't do it? I must be cheating.
Get better, stop complaining, or if you choose to not do any of the above: QUIT. Nobody is forcing you to suck at a video game.
The_Mctavish wrote:
Anything that gives another player an advantage over another is what...cheating!
Explain to me this then. I am a 2nd prestige and I get into a lobby with a bunch of level 2 non prestige players. Does that mean I am cheating because I know the maps better then them? I think not. Quickscoping has been around for a while now and believe me, I dislike it as much as the next guy. Doesn't mean he's cheating though. He has to try to kill you with 1 bullet while you are sparying 30 bullets into his face. (unless he is across the map and in that case I would say he probably wouldn't be able to QS very accuratly) I say the QS's are at a disadvantage in this case. If they beat me, then they beat me. I will whine to myself and move on. You should try doing the same.
Ok, You all have valid points, so I guess the only recourse I have is to dashboard. Works for me.
Dashboarding COULD also be an advantage though. It doesn't count your kills and deaths and such. So that too COULD be looked at as cheating.....Just sayin....
I agree that quickscoping needs to be fixed. When people are putting ACOG's on sniper rifles and running around using them like an Assault rifle, there is a problem. I thought I saw a tweet from Bowling saying that it was being looked at though, so the fix may be on the way.
I could have swore that my buddy said Rob Bowling Resigned his position with infinity ward.
why people moan about QSing is beyond me and it doesn't take skill? well it takes more than a hard scoping sniper that sits in a couple of different areas throughout the entire match.
I know the latter is more realistic, but CoD isn't really that realistic tbh
Answer me this quickscopers; if quickscoping is so uber skillful, then why do most of you use quickdraw with it? If it took any skill at all, surely you wouldn't need that perk to boost how effective it is.
Black Ops had quickscoping right; there were no perks that made it easier, and it did *shock and horror* take a degree of skill to get kills by doing so, but as it stands in MW3, it is easier to do than properly sniping, Or using an AR, it's ridiculous.
Using the MSR I can quite easily go positive by quickscoping, and if I can do it, with NO experience of it whatsoever, then there is a serious balance issue.
I never said it was skillfull, I find it quite easy. And just so you know I don't use quickdraw pro. In mw2 I used marathon so don't go there either. And quick scoping is certanly not easier than using an AR or SMG, with a sniper you have 1 maybe 2 shots, an AR or SMG you just pull the trigger till experiance pops up.
have you ever tried quickscoping?
If in doubt dashboard out, quickscoping takes no skill, all u gotta do is shoot near someone and their dead, why put up with such bs
If in doubt dashboard out, quickscoping takes no skill, all u gotta do is shoot near someone and their dead, why put up with such bs
Elfalconio wrote:
If in doubt dashboard out, quickscoping takes no skill, all u gotta do is shoot near someone and their dead, why put up with such bs
now there's statement from someone who's clearly never actually quickscoped. That is pure nonsense. If it was that easy, the everyone would be doing it. There's a reason you see more people running around with ACRs, MP7s, PP90M1s than almost any other gun. It's because they are the easiest to use and be successful
If in doubt dashboard out, quickscoping takes no skill, all u gotta do is shoot near someone and their dead, why put up with such bs
If you find a quickscoper at the same time he finds you, and you have a SMG or AR and shoot first, he will most likely not be able to kill you, the recoil when hit when using a sniper is really hard to handle.
QScopoo is botty, and always was.
im shore robbert bowling resinged because of people like you how about asking and no to moaning
My guess is he resigned because everyone tried to blame him for the problems and because Activision is all about making money and not keeping people happy.
i QS all the time but i dont rake in the kills like an assult or sub even shotguns its harder for ppl to QS than you think.. an black ops? they went to far you get hit markers like crazy.. an ill agree to that idea of a sniper lobby but i doubt they'll do it.. it would be easier for us not getting sprayed all the time
Quick scopeings a skill, just because other people are better at it then you dosnt mean the hole game has to changed to your standards that would ruin it for everyone.
To be able to turn quickly aim and shoot on target is a skill and practise is needed something people like you need to learn, Unlike noobtubes where you just pull the trigger in any direction and it will kill you and others instantly.
People complain about this game 24/7 everyone has different problems and most of the time its just the rage quiters that get one lucky shot pulled off on them and complain and dashboard, Enjoy the game and shut up moaning for once thats all this game is really just full of moaners lol.
Also quick scopings been around for years I used to play a game called Counter strike source really old game and people back then used to quick scope but noone moaned its part of the game Deal with it!.