Jan 6, 2012 10:37 PM
Is anyone else getting tired of akimbo Machine Pistols?
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I sure as hell am. They promote camping more than any other weapon as of right now, since you don't have to constantly be in ADS. They also take ZERO skill to use effectively, since, again, you don't have to ADS, just spray and pray.
I would love to start a petition/poll on removing Akimbo machine pistols, and possibly dual handguns as well, but the forum doesn't give me an option to set up a poll. So, I'll leave to the opinions of my fellow forum-goers.
Agreed. Accuracy at longer distances is insane.
I like them.
thats because your a noob
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Message was edited by: codblackice
I never used them from the off, but I was made aware of just how effective they were and have been using them ever since.
I can see where you are coming, as whenever I use them I certainly spray and pray because taming them is insanely difficult - for me, anyway.
Not sure they should be removed, or even nerfed though. To be honest, I only use them because I know I will make plenty of kills with them through each prestige meaning I'll max out the proficiency with it and make more XP than I would with the other Seconday Weapons. I much prefer using pistols.
I just despise the lack of skill they take to use. ANYONE can run into a room and clear 2-3 saps with a pair of FMG9s; it takes true skill to do it with a single P99, even with extended mags.
Akimbo is really the ONLY attachment I've never approved of throughout the CoD series; the worst had to be the akimbo shotguns from Black Ops.
fallenshadow000 wrote:
I just despise the lack of skill they take to use. ANYONE can run into a room and clear 2-3 saps with a pair of FMG9s
Agreed! It's a nube weapon.
rainmaker6 wrote:
Agreed! It's a nube weapon.
So, noobish you can't even spell noob when calling others a noob, n00b.
That was fun.
Surely I would expect you to have something to contribute other than this...
fallenshadow000 wrote:
Surely I would expect you to have something to contribute other than this...
Why?
Complaints about akimbo are played out. They aren't removing them. They really aren't hard at all to deal with.
You want change...? Focus on COD 2012
as far as im concerned the only akimbo weapons should be pistols and even then when using them you shouldnt be able to knife and have a slower reload
Just as Sandy Ravage said - "try 'em out they're fun"
I love 'em and hearing people cry in-game is hilarious because really they aren't OP. Some people lack the creativity to counter and keep using the same class over and over again. That's their fault...
Using creativity and CoD i n the same sentence is impossible, for one. For two, it's stupid that a dinky little machine pistol can have about the same average range as an ACR, just because you're carrying a second one.
Lastly, if you can't shoot outside of hip fire, you don't need to play.
The same average range of an ACR? Are you serious? Think about what you write as that's completely moronic...
I won't even dignify the hip-fire comment by responding as I can see the very narrow scope of thinking there. Farcical if you ask me...
Honestly, the only ones that are really an issue that I've noticed are the FMGs. The ones I use on my class (Akimbo MP9 I think) really aren't all that great unless you're sitting on the person already. At any distance, you're not putting anyone down very fast.
The problem isn't that they're hip-fired and don't take any skill, it's that some of them have such high fire rates combined with moderate hip-fire accuracy. Others, such as the MP9 (at least in my experience) don't let you do that to the same degree.
Mp9s are beast, they have More range potential than the fmgs, no doubt. Much easier to control. They also beast cqb as they are near 2000 rmp (not fast? lmao) I believe, fmgs are just overkill, overkill cqb, but clearly less mid.
I was obviously exaggerating, you twit. That's how stupid I think the range on Akimbo MPs really is. If all you can do is spray and pray w/out actually aiming your weapon, then don't play.
Wahhhhh! Akimbo machine pistols! Wahhhh!!! Do you realize how pathetic that is?
Okay look, I'm done... but you sulk and whine about what people use and how they play it'll get you nowhere. In fact the striker is far more OP than ANY of the machine pistols plus add-in modded controllers and it's unstoppable - PERIOD!
Some people sound like egalitarians of gaming!
Good riddance, you tool. I've NEVER liked Akimbo weapons in any game, as they're impractical and promote absolutely NO skill. It's not my fault if you get your ass handed to you without using them.
If you can't have a response that contributes to the discussion w/out trolling, then just leave.
Your ignorance runs deep...
no help for you I see.
I hip-fired a few times and used akimbo machine pistols; maybe I shouldn't play(?)... "TWIT" huh?
Way to miss my point. I'm getting at people who ONLY use the Akimbo MPs because they can't shoot with anything else. You have a sight on your gun for a reason; I can understand firing your main weapon from the hip in close quarters, that's fine. What pisses me off is when people get you solely because they're carrying a second gun, and can spray more bullets.
It's stupid when you clearly start shooting someone with an MP7 before they even look at you, and they still kill you just because they happen to be wielding a second FMG. Anyone who has to use them on a consistent basis and cannot kill with other weapons doesn't need to play.
There is NO skill in hip firing akimbo weapons; you don't have to aim, and they put out twice as many bullets as any SINGLE gun.
It's all good, no hard feelings. I personally don't have a problem with the guns. If anything, the Striker w/rapid fire and modded controller bothers me, but if they limited the RPM it would be all good... same goes for the M14. Do I want them to nerf them - No.
As for the FMG9's? Trust me, half the time they DO NOT reload... there have been times I've tried to reload 4-5 times and others I think they've reloaded and I go to shoot someone and I fire 1 bullet and I'm dead.
My main issue with the game is by far, connectivity and dashboarding (lately there's been a lot). I have 100meg service and I'll have games where I'm playing with a red bar and/or playing with people in Britain.
Understandable; I've seen a LOT of modded controllers with the Striker, but not so much with the MK14.
I agree that Akimbo machine pistols are pretty stupid. Machine pistols are by their very design intended to be great close combat weapons. Having 2 of them is not only stupid, it opens them up to be abused in situations they weren't meant for, such as FMGs becoming more deadly at close to mid range than basically any other gun simply by virtue of how many bullets they spit out.
Akimbo pistols I really don't have a problem with. If you want to try and kill me from mid range using 2 semi-automatic weapons that you can't even aim properly, be my guest. Even at close range they aren't that good because most SMGs just dunk all over them.
Agreed. Akimbo pistols are terrible. They are too strong and takes to skill to use. Any gun that doesn't force you to ads to land hits shouldn't be this strong.
Anyone else want to weigh in?
For all of the people so angry at akimbo machine pistols, did you play MW2? I ask because I played a lot of MW2, and had to deal with the Akimbo Model 1887s. Prior to their patch, they were ridiculous. Then the lovely Akimbo SMGs were fun, thank goodness the masses never caught on to how deadly those things could be.
As for the Akimbo Machine Pistols being such an issue in MW3, not really. You can adapt and counter them, just like anything else in COD. If you run into them often in a match, take note and keep out of close combat. The range on the FMG9s in particular after patch isn't as much as everyone would love to have you believe. They can be countered effectively and you can punish the enemy for trying to use them past their effective range.
To be honest the only michine PISTOL which is a PISTOL is the G18. The Scopian is actually a Submachine gun. Then if you look at the MP9 and the Mac 11 or PM-9 in MW3 they look exactly alike. So same can also be said with the FMG9 that looks like the MP7 if you take a good look. I think its ridiculas i can hib fire my ACR get 4-6 hitmarkers and stil get F****d over by FMG Akimbo! Absolutaly Stupid!
The main issue I have with them is that they can outgun pretty much any gun at close range and they're a secondary.
Don't you think its a little messed up people rock with a SMG as primary and akimbo MPs as a secondary, when subs are pretty damn good a close range anyway.
I love people saying "learn how to counter them" and then not providing any ways or means on how to do that.
I roll with the model, which on a good connection, will stop dual MPs in their tracks, but if my connection is slightly worse than theirs, they **** all over the shotguns, also you don't get punished for being inaccurate with akimbo MPs, you can spary side to side and get a kill. Miss with model / spas / ksg you get punished royally.
Also have you seen how insanely akimbo FMG9s destroy juggernauts? its completley crazy.
I agree; I just had a game on Seatown a short time ago where I was up 22 and 9. Then EVERY PLAYER on the enemy team pulled out akimbo FMGs, and started whoring every corner on the map. I shot a guy in the face through a window, and he whips around and sprays me. Score goes to 74-74, I get sprayed through the staircase wall by Akimbo FMGs, by someone who COULDN'T EVEN SEE ME.
Went 24-17 that game, all because of a bunch of skilless n00bs swinging their damn crutches at me. Reported one for cheating (there was NO WAY he saw me through the wall) and the rest for exploiting the game.
Akimbo MPs need to go; they take what is essentially CoD 101: AIMING YOUR GUN, and throw it out the window.
Anyone else? Akimbo FMGs are starting to get worse than the AK74u from Black Ops in terms of usage, and are ten times more powerful. Something needs to be done.