I like it.

Agree. Love it. Lets lobby to get it done. I liked the idea of a two hit knife, and this is kinda the same thing except you do get a small reward for that initial stick by putting them down in that more vulnerable position. A two hit knife would be pretty hard to pull off most of the time as most folks would turn around pretty quick and shoot you, but this allows for the knifer to still have the advantage and get the stealthy kill. The person should be able to get out of last stand if he fought you off. This would be cool and allow for some pretty funny moments that will add some character to the game. Like Last Stand or not, it does add some of that character and this would retain that while eliminating it as a perk or deathstreak. Hope this thread gets seen by the devs.

There are sooo many annoying things in the game, but knifing is not one of them.

why do you care if some one panic knifes you, all that basically means the pressed the button faster than you.

Dead mans hand, now thats annoying!!!!! last stand is too quick but i would still keep it in to help people out, just slow down how quickly you can shoot.

Ban Noob tubes in hardcore

But most of all fix the lag, mothing else is important until the lag is fixed...........

And the point about the spawns, if you play as a team and don't run around like headless chickens you can very easiily control the spawns.

instead of knifing we should just bash enemies with our guns. like in halo.

Azure I agree with your ppl not being rewarded for playing poorly. Ive been trying to get this through ppls heads since the blops forum days.

Knifing should be a 1 hit kill though... to the back. But their are 2 options I think will truely fix the panic knifing proble.

Yes 2 hits from nonback or you cant knife while being shot.

IW caters to much to the scrubs who buy the game and play it like 1 days worth of time. Then us players who will play this game till the next CoD title get screwed with all the crap thrown in.

Give us an "express" type playlist.

No Death streaks

No Heartbeat Monitors

No Assasin

Mid to small sized maps.

Im so tired of dead mans nuke!

I cant believe this made it in. Cause someone dies 6 times I have to die cause I won the 7th gun fight this kid lost. NOT FAIR!!!

Lol @ panic knife, only the tactical losers use that term. So it's reflex to drop to the ground when you see someone, but it's panic when you see someone at melee? Right...

I like last stand, but i do think that they do need to sort out a few things with it ie, it should pull out a pistol not your main wepon,

Also last stand should be based on how you were hit ie if you get shot in the foot you should be able to turn around and shoot but if someone empted a clip into your head then your dead.

panic knifing, i personaly dont find that bad, it happens every now and then, and when it does happen i would mostly blaim myself for letting someone get that close to panic knife me, i should have shot them or stick it in them first.

People say the lunge is bad but you also have the same lunge as them so try just stick it in them first.

i find that i get alot of head shoots when people try and panic knife me.

Plus you should be trying to back off from people if they are to close, if i meat some and we are face to face, open up with the gun but taking stepps backwards as well, reducing the chance for "panic knifing".

dead mans hand, now thats one taht always gets me no matter what.

hast anyone ever managed to not get killed by dead mans hand(can you get away from it) or have i just had bad luck it it killing me every time some one has it.

i played one game over xmas were a xmas noob had dead mans hand, he was easy to kill but had me back nearly everytime with it, unless i was half way across the map and i run round a corner.

I admit the knifing sucks... it never works for me (lag) but always seem to get knifed through a hail of bullets but I think that has more to do with lag. Saying this, I firmly believe if they fixed the lag issues the knifing would be better and acceptable for all.

I hate getting knifed, I like using shotguns (I stepped away from easymode Striker, the aa-12 is my fav shotgun now) or SMG's and I play on tactical, so I get knifed quite often. I tried using the "claw" technique for holding your controller, which basically means you use your index finger to jump / reload / switch weapons / knife and use your middle finger to shoot, so you can keep your thumb on the stick all the time, but I couldn't get used to it, I kept accidentally switching to my .44 magnum =P

Knifing shouldn't be completely countered, there are a lot of people out there who like to run around knifing only. I made a post earlier suggesting knifing should only work within the crosshairs of your weapon, so the knife would take some kind of aim and be more effective on LMG's and less effective on SMG's and handguns, that way you wouldn't get knifed when the knifer is standing next to you not even looking at you. I don't care when someone gets in my back and knifes me, that was my mistake I should have been paying attention, but I do hate it when I get 180-knifed...

About deathstreaks: Shouldn't be in the game. At all. Maybe only deathstreaks like Juiced, Copycat, hollow points. No lethal deathstreaks like Martyrdom or Dead mand hand, and the guy who thought giving someone 2 lives and a free dropshot would be a good idea should be fed to sharks immediately.