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CHRISSY Apprentice 339 posts since
Nov 29, 2011
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Jan 2, 2012 9:47 AM

RAGE QUIT ????

hey folks, my clan is The Majors and were a pretty good clan who play well together in hardcore modes but this is causing us problems as so many people cant take the fact were better than them and because were winning the whole other team rage quits, this happend 6 times in a row today and then another 4 times throughout the day, its shocking so many people just leave a game instead of trying to change there strategy and bring it back, dont no what could be done to fix this but its pointless just leaving a a shooting game because you're getting shot

  • WantedMan Novice 220 posts since
    Dec 4, 2011
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    Jan 2, 2012 9:53 AM (in response to CHRISSY)
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    The sad part of this is that untill they have a mercenary hc this will keep happening.Ther're are alot of people that play alone and when it comes down to it if you have 5 or 6 randem players going up against a full team (that play well together)there is no chance,or aleast very small chance of winning.

  • RedDog125 Newbie 13 posts since
    Dec 30, 2011
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    Jan 2, 2012 10:23 AM (in response to CHRISSY)
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    The problem is that most people are just joined randomly with others in the lobby.  If your clan is all miked and have played together, then you have an advantage.  Unfortunatally with all of the hackers, a lot of clans that dominate the matches are viewed as hacking.  I refuse to continue to play in a match where one clan is easily winning because it appears that they hack (weather or not that it is true).  Hackers have truely ruined the games and until something can be done this is what you will have to deal with. One soultion is to have a mercenary HC as well as a Clan vs Clan lobby.

  • trialstardragon Master 10,306 posts since
    May 26, 2011
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    Jan 2, 2012 10:36 AM (in response to CHRISSY)
    Re: RAGE QUIT ????

    Like the other poster said until there is HC Merc, this will happen and there is nothing they can really do to stop it. There is no honor or sportsmanship in this game as some like to think. It is all about if the player is having fun or not. And having your dead body handed to you every few moments is not fun for other players. So they will leave the game. Even the quit ban system in Halo: Reach did not slow this down. People will do what ever they feel is correct when their own level of fun is being hurt, regardless of how it affects the other team. It is just a normal thing for people to do. Since this is just a game and not that serious, and many play for fun; but dieing constantly is not fun.

  • rankismet Master 10,955 posts since
    May 23, 2011
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    Jan 2, 2012 10:51 AM (in response to CHRISSY)
    Re: RAGE QUIT ????

    CHRISSY wrote:

     

    hey folks, my clan is The Majors and were a pretty good clan who play well together in hardcore modes but this is causing us problems as so many people cant take the fact were better than them and because were winning the whole other team rage quits, this happend 6 times in a row today and then another 4 times throughout the day, its shocking so many people just leave a game instead of trying to change there strategy and bring it back, dont no what could be done to fix this but its pointless just leaving a a shooting game because you're getting shot

     

    Some games, we'll go through 2-3 full teams rotating through... no big deal.

      • rankismet Master 10,955 posts since
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        Jan 3, 2012 9:19 AM (in response to CHRISSY)
        Re: RAGE QUIT ????

        CHRISSY wrote:

         

        it is when no one gets re added to the game and we have to sit there doing nothing bored to tears untill it forefits the game, people always get put in on core but with hardcore u can sit there and wait for ages

         

        Not in my experience... all I play is HC KC...

  • Novice 410 posts since
    Nov 8, 2011
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    Jan 2, 2012 1:46 PM (in response to CHRISSY)
    Re: RAGE QUIT ????

    I think you have to look at this from a different perspective. A lot of people who play are CASUAL players. They don't have clans or plans or anything too elaborate because they just play in their free time.

     

    You and your clan would be HARDCORE players. You play constantly and love the game to the point that you sought out like minded people and have honed yourself into a fighting force to be reckoned with.

     

    So now in comes the casual player to kill some time and have fun only to be thrown into a game with your clan who systematically pick him apart and squash is fun in the name of your own version of fun.

     

    What recourse does he have if he wants to find a game that isn't stressful and frustrating? Rage quit and hope he finds a better game.

    • Novice 109 posts since
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      Jan 3, 2012 5:00 AM (in response to PencilDaddy)
      Re: RAGE QUIT ????

      I agree. I am one of those casual gamers and I have no interest in joining a clan (and don't have the time anyway). It is frustrating and annoying to go against a full clan in a game as you know you're going to get kicked from one end of the map to another.

       

      Back in the days of Quake 3 when I was in clans, we would not play public servers and always arrange private matches. Then again that was back in the day of IRC et where it was easier to arrange matches etc.

       

      OP - I'm not saying you do this but I dare say some clans deliberately go to a "public" server to hand out beatings to make themselves feel better against a load of random players and probably improve their stats on Elite.

  • Calculating status... 10 posts since
    Dec 16, 2011
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    Jan 2, 2012 4:26 PM (in response to CHRISSY)
    Re: RAGE QUIT ????

    HQ seems to be the gamemode where i see the most rage quits. People with the 1337iQS gamertags are always the first to leave. I usually play with 2 or 3 friends most of the time and even then people rage quit against us, when there is a full team of us we hardly ever get a full game.


    People take this game too seriously. My friends and I used to take CoD seriously to but that was in GB and tournements etc, never in pubs. When we play pubs its just for fun. No strategies etc.


    People may quit against you alot if you play as a clan and go proper serious face. If you want to play competitively i would recommend signing up for gamebattles or decerto. Leave pubs to people who play for fun (yes i know its fun winning but winning most games with little challenge isnt lol)

  • bo2000 Apprentice 872 posts since
    Jun 10, 2011
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    Jan 3, 2012 1:47 AM (in response to CHRISSY)
    Re: RAGE QUIT ????

    Playing alone or with my friends we usually don't ragequit playing against a full clan but wait how they are playing. If they're good we can learn a thing or two. Most of the time they are not good though and ragequit on us. Especially in gamemodes where there's not much points for the losing team. I guess there's too much clans by name but not by heart

  • nuttin2say Expert 2,533 posts since
    May 24, 2011
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    Jan 3, 2012 5:29 AM (in response to CHRISSY)
    Re: RAGE QUIT ????

    I can understand your frustration when you're playing against other clans. When I play with my friends, if we lose we lose. No biggie, like you say, just adapt and come back the next round.

     

    In previous COD titles, though, I could play in regular lobbies and mostly play against other randoms. What's more, even though in Black Ops teams could organize their kill streaks in such a way that they could tear up an opposing team, few did.

     

    For whatever reason, though, Activision wanted to make MW3 a "social" game. They succeeded very well  at that. Now if you have a team of decent players you can dominate randoms. Pluse the strike packages can be more easily arranged to work together.

     

    What I don't understand about the matchmaking is why the game consistently puts teams up against randoms. Unless your team is a bunch of total idiots, you should easily win.

     

    In any case, I won't play against a clan/team unless I'm with my clan/team. Period.

     

    Sadly, the Mercenary lobby that is out there has few people in it (I think most people don't like the varied game play) and even worse, there are people that "Join Session in Progress" to their friends in a Mercenary match. This is worse than being up against a group you know is working together because now you're assuming there will be a lack of communication and there isn't.

     

    I think they need to make a clan lobby. Force teams to go up against teams.

     

    Also, there's several ways to identify organized teams. The obvious is when a group has the same clan tag. Second, yes, if their gamer tags are all similar in some way.

     

    If there are six people in the lobby with mics, odds are there is a clan in the lobby.

     

    When all else fails, if I suspect people are a clan/team, I go to their gamer cards and check their friend's lists.

     

    They really need to adjust the matchmaking so that teams are playing against teams, not teams vs randoms.

    • W7PSK Expert 639 posts since
      Dec 1, 2011
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      Jan 3, 2012 9:12 AM (in response to nuttin2say)
      Re: RAGE QUIT ????

      I will not play against certain clans because they CAMP every spawn point and you cannot do nothing but spawn and die.

       

      They think they are the snitz but in reality they are just spawn camping kill you know whats.

       

      I quit immediatly and I now  have a list of clans I will not play against. I even had one clan tell me to stay when I got paired with the lobby 3 times in a row.  I said no I dont want to be just a kill target and they said "BUT WE NEED PEOPLE TO STAY SO WE CAN GET KILLS". Needless to say they will stay on my list.

       

      I like playing for fun not to be some campfest team kill patsy.

       

      So Chrissy ask your team and yourself WHY do people quit on us and wont play. Maybe you will find your answer there.

      • splittinwigs Master 23,564 posts since
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        Jan 3, 2012 9:17 AM (in response to W7PSK)
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        W7PSK wrote:

         

        I will not play against certain clans because they CAMP every spawn point and you cannot do nothing but spawn and die.

         

         

        LMAO, you don't have to be in a "clan" do learn the spawn points and to be a well organized team.

         

        Just saying...

        • W7PSK Expert 639 posts since
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          Jan 3, 2012 9:19 AM (in response to splittinwigs)
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          True dat wigs, but at least if I write down the Camp Clans I can cut down on how many camp games I get in

           

          Other clans I play cause they play the game fair, If i get whupped I get whupped, but campers no.

          • rankismet Master 10,955 posts since
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            Jan 3, 2012 9:20 AM (in response to W7PSK)
            Re: RAGE QUIT ????

            W7PSK wrote:

             

            True dat wigs, but at least if I write down the Camp Clans I can cut down on how many camp games I get in

             

            Other clans I play cause they play the game fair, If i get whupped I get whupped, but campers no.

             

            Sorry... but how is camping "unfair"?

            • mjw3786 Apprentice 619 posts since
              Sep 22, 2011
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              Jan 3, 2012 9:27 AM (in response to rankismet)
              Re: RAGE QUIT ????

              rankismet wrote:

               

              W7PSK wrote:

               

              True dat wigs, but at least if I write down the Camp Clans I can cut down on how many camp games I get in

               

              Other clans I play cause they play the game fair, If i get whupped I get whupped, but campers no.

               

              Sorry... but how is camping "unfair"?

              it's not unfair, it's just incredibly boring and a waste of everyone's time.

              • rankismet Master 10,955 posts since
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                Jan 3, 2012 9:34 AM (in response to mjw3786)
                Re: RAGE QUIT ????

                mjw3786 wrote:

                 

                rankismet wrote:

                 

                W7PSK wrote:

                 

                True dat wigs, but at least if I write down the Camp Clans I can cut down on how many camp games I get in

                 

                Other clans I play cause they play the game fair, If i get whupped I get whupped, but campers no.

                 

                Sorry... but how is camping "unfair"?

                it's not unfair, it's just incredibly boring and a waste of everyone's time.

                 

                Everyone's time but the campers...

  • mjw3786 Apprentice 619 posts since
    Sep 22, 2011
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    Jan 3, 2012 9:16 AM (in response to CHRISSY)
    Re: RAGE QUIT ????

    things that guarantee a rage quit from me:

     

    terrible lag

    terrible campers

    spamming striker

    spamming fmg9

    TI / MOAB boosters

     

    did i miss anything? nope i think that's it

    • EynonPower Novice 120 posts since
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      Jan 3, 2012 9:41 AM (in response to mjw3786)
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      This has nothing to do with a clan, but I love how "Changing Host" usually comes immediatly after a Predator Missile lands.  

    • tL_baldage Novice 150 posts since
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      Jan 3, 2012 10:04 AM (in response to mjw3786)
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      mjw3786 wrote:

       

      things that guarantee a rage quit from me:

       

      terrible lag

      terrible campers

      spamming striker

      spamming fmg9

      TI / MOAB boosters

       

      did i miss anything? nope i think that's it

       

      So you basically dashboard every game then? FMG9's and campers are present in every game.

  • tL_baldage Novice 150 posts since
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    Jan 3, 2012 10:02 AM (in response to CHRISSY)
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    I play core but this happens to my team all the time as well. If we play team tac, it happens around 95% of the time.

     

    In fact I've found that it's the other clans that are the worst offenders as they think they are good and then...well...we show them otherwise.

     

    Bad randoms tend to stick it out more than anyone else. Kudos to them.

  • Elfalconio Newbie 16 posts since
    Mar 14, 2012
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    May 20, 2012 7:19 AM (in response to CHRISSY)
    Re: RAGE QUIT ????

    Dashboarding is where it's at, nothing better than being host and dropping the game out when the other teams about to win or gets a Moab, lag compo is so unfair in this broken game so why not get revenge eh ;)

  • jw415gvr Newbie 39 posts since
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    May 20, 2012 7:36 AM (in response to CHRISSY)
    Re: RAGE QUIT ????

    As a random without any friends, I refuse to be fodder for anyone.  If I'm getting my rear handed to me again and again I will back out.  As stated previously, this game is about having fun.  That's what its a game.

     

    I also back out when comrades or adversaries demonstrate a neanderthal level of communication.  This is usually evidenced by the quoting of various nefarious rap songs, the banter of the racial supremacists, or the inane drivel and lack of proper language arts coursework as superbly demonstrated by our humble original poster. 

  • MikeG66 Calculating status... 60 posts since
    Dec 14, 2011
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    May 20, 2012 8:31 AM (in response to CHRISSY)
    Re: RAGE QUIT ????

    As a random, what incentive do I have to stay in a game where your clan is dominating from the beginning? Doesn't matter why you are (skill, luck, lag, whatever), I have zero reason to stay and be a moving target for you and your team to rack up kill streaks and pad your stats. Don't start with the "take your beating like a man" or "you have to get dominated to get better" bs either, that's a load of crap and you know it. Please don't misunderstand me, I'm not trying to flame you, just state an opposing point of view. This thread demonstrates very well the need for casual and non-casual lobbies. As long as the guy who plays a few hours a week is forced to play against people who play this game as if it's a full time job, people will continue to rage quit....and with good reason.

  • MaxKirgan Novice 315 posts since
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    May 20, 2012 2:54 PM (in response to CHRISSY)
    Re: RAGE QUIT ????

    That happens to us all the time. It never usually bothers us, unless we are doing a clan op. We started taking our clan tags and  titles off before we start clan ops because we found that when we get into a lobby, people see a full party of 6 in a clan and immediately back out. Matchmaking takes forever to begin with, people backing out just makes it worse.

     

    People asking for separate playlists for HC mercanary and clan ops, I have bad news for you. It isn't going to happen. If it would expedite matchmaking I would be all for it.  However, as has been shown in the past, you fragment the community,  matchmaking will take that much longer. This company only caters to all the Core players. There is a group of very dedicated, very vocal HC CTF players that have been pushing for a HC CTF playlist  and GHANDI has stated that, in order for it to happen, we would have to lose another HC playlist. That pretty much garuntees we won't see playlists for HC mercanary and clan ops.

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