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blkbumblebee17 Novice 243 posts since
Jul 27, 2011
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Jan 2, 2012 12:24 PM

tired of getting 2+kds and still losing

i play very aggressive and i like to win i almost always play merc and i do well damn near everygame the problem is however random's almost always suck i can be crushing and expecting to win only to look at the final score and see not one other teammate got over 10 kills... i mean seriously if i go 30-11 we better win im sick of seeing teammates go 0-12 and camping to make it worse... its just pathetic and for anyone who feels its a right of passage to die a lot is an idiot because i've never once played an intire match and not gotten 1 damn kill thats just impossible to me... and i would love a clan to play with where we never quit if were losing i've played some of these so called clans and watched them back out when they are having their arse handed to them i'm by far not the best but i will take my whooping like a man if it ever happens the only time i've quit is due to horrible lag or issues in house that forced me to drop my controller for more than a minute... i want to play with a competitive team who likes to win and hates losing but has fun either way i have a 1.26 win loss and a 1.9 kd again only playing by myself almost never in a party so if anyone has a good clan with cool players im down to join and once clan opperation's start on elite i will pay for the full service  thanks for any offers i may get u can also friend me and watch my gameplays in vault for evaluation of my skills if needed  

  • Calculating status... 6 posts since
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    Jan 2, 2012 12:28 PM (in response to blkbumblebee17)
    Re: tired of getting 2+kds and still losing

    if you are loosing with a 2.0 plus kd then it makes me think that you are just camping in a corner like most BK at this game and not playing the objective

  • Calculating status... 21 posts since
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    Jan 2, 2012 2:18 PM (in response to blkbumblebee17)
    Re: tired of getting 2+kds and still losing

    play free 4 all. end of story.

     

    using team mates as a distraction or a radar probe is ok until you start losing and find out your not even a team player in any form other then your score board. when your team drags you down, what can you do? play a game that doesnt have a team.

  • atiredoldguy Expert 1,278 posts since
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    Jan 2, 2012 2:37 PM (in response to blkbumblebee17)
    Re: tired of getting 2+kds and still losing

    Everyone who plays with randoms has the same issues. Play with firends or just think of it this way ......... most likely the opposing team has the same crappy players on the bottom of the list ........ but the guy on top did better than you, and carried his team better than you did.

  • WiseguyFTL Apprentice 499 posts since
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    Jan 2, 2012 3:57 PM (in response to blkbumblebee17)
    Re: tired of getting 2+kds and still losing

    I had this problem for a while as well. The worst was when I dropped a 43-11 TDM on Bootleg (not the greatest k/d wise, but come on, 43 kills and still losing?) and our team still lost... splitscreeners both went something like 1-20.

    Now I only play TDM, Kill confirmed etc. in a party, and when I play solo I play either Free for all (no teammates to screw your team, because there are no teams) or Capture the flag, which is surprisingly fun, I totally overlooked it in previous COD games and I hated it in black ops because everyone would just go for the flags blindly because of the marathon challenge and it ruined the experience for me, but in this game I love it! Dropped some great k/d's like 35-1 and matches like that, I have at least 2-3 caps each game and I had some nice clutch moments! The only thing I don't like about it is the respawn delay, but you get used to it. I can win a game on my own in CTF as long as I don't play an organized team. I suggest trying it, I'm not a beastly player who can clutch any game by the way, my k/d ratio is between 1.95 and 2.00 just like yours

  • Novice 417 posts since
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    Jan 2, 2012 5:11 PM (in response to blkbumblebee17)
    Re: tired of getting 2+kds and still losing

    I used to play Domination, but I stopped because I was the only one capping flags. Then I went over to Team Deathmatch because all people know how to do is shoot things that move. I stopped playing that because while I can maintain a 2+ KD, I get dragged down by people who go 1-11, 2-25, etc.

     

    Now I never play unless I have at least one person in my party.

  • mischaelite Novice 380 posts since
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    Jan 2, 2012 5:27 PM (in response to blkbumblebee17)
    Re: tired of getting 2+kds and still losing

    If you go 2+ and still loose you are a camper. I have been in clans with different levels of motivation, some for fun and some for the win, and the real proffessional ones would be very cautious accepting an objective type player with a K/D over 1,5 really.

     

    However if you go 2+ K/D in TDM you would not loose to someone with less kills (unless you don´t give a crap about taking down pointstreaks and dont cash in on possible assists).

     

    Since you play Merc your weakness must be Domination and Kill Confirmed. If you are not willing to loose a life for capturing flags or collecting multiple tags you will continue to loose and the really serious clans would have a problem with your playstyle.

     

    Seems to me you should stick to TDM and/or FFA where you excel and do best.

     

    After all we do play for points and come springtime when Elite is up and running a 100% this will probably become more clear than ever when many clans will play for XP for real.

    • Calculating status... 11 posts since
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      Jan 2, 2012 5:33 PM (in response to mischaelite)
      Re: tired of getting 2+kds and still losing

      learn how to space people

  • atiredoldguy Expert 1,278 posts since
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    Jan 2, 2012 5:46 PM (in response to blkbumblebee17)
    Re: tired of getting 2+kds and still losing

       I'm going to take a shot in the dark here and throw out another possibility.

     

       You sound like you just may be one of those people that are constantly b*tching, moaning, bragging and blaming to your teammates. If thats the case .. its not going to make them play better. They will either get rattlesd and not be able to concemtrate well, or they may get annoyed and just stop putting in any effort.

     

      Try communicating with teammates on what to do and when to do it without sounding degrading. Dont even try giving orders .. just say what you are doing and suggest that someone doing another particular thing would be helpful.

     

       Communication is key to any team............ but only if its friendly.

  • dastealth Master 1,637 posts since
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    Jan 2, 2012 7:01 PM (in response to blkbumblebee17)
    Re: tired of getting 2+kds and still losing

    I feel you pain bro... Too many times has it happened to me where I've gone 2+ even 4+ K/D and still lost playing Team Defender. I also take pitty when it happens to another person on the other team. Although there was 1 time where my team won (only just) and there was me having the only positive K/D on my team and 1 guy on the other team with a postive K/D. Was kinda like a competion to see who could kill the other team quicker.

  • rosenbag Novice 23 posts since
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    Jan 2, 2012 7:34 PM (in response to blkbumblebee17)
    Re: tired of getting 2+kds and still losing

    add me my psn is Rosenbag and we r always looking for new members.. search our clan on elite USDF US Delta Force.. clan KD is over 1.6 and we have many members with over 2 kd

  • ghamorra Master 8,795 posts since
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    Jan 2, 2012 9:25 PM (in response to blkbumblebee17)
    Re: tired of getting 2+kds and still losing

    Like most people said you can't win much when playing with randoms. especially after Christmas you're going to find a lot of n00bs who just plain suck. Throw in some splitscreeners and you got yourself turkey hunt. Most people I know that play anything merc are players who aren't very good and are looking for some non clan playlists to make it easy for them

     

    My advice; find some friends to play with. And watch what you say about camping, every good team needs ONE good camper when playing objective game modes

    • Novice 471 posts since
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      Jan 3, 2012 2:35 AM (in response to ghamorra)
      Re: tired of getting 2+kds and still losing

      i personally like seeing us lose, my team all under 10 kills, and me on top with like 20 - 10 or my best game yet 37 - 15 and the 2nd top guy was 9 - 13

       

      we lost like 25  - 62 kill confirm

       

      but i feel great knowing that i can still play smart and do good against a dominate/good team/players...

       

      you have to forgive alot of the new players, it has nothing to do with skill, it has to do with map knowledge, face it we all got our game november.....we learn the maps in 2 weeks, and got another 4-5 weeks of playing and learning the weapons and waht not...

       

      these new peeps come in yougn and old, lost, confused, testing everyting and still learning maps, spots, hiding spots, glitches, blah everything! and its gonna tkae them time..... until then happy hunting!

  • rlbl Master 6,051 posts since
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    Jan 3, 2012 5:58 AM (in response to blkbumblebee17)
    Re: tired of getting 2+kds and still losing

    Funny... I have a terrible K/D and win most games...

     

    I do not use killstreaks to "pad" my K/D (use specialist strike package mostly).

     

    If you use killstreaks for your K/D... that "might" be why you have a good K/D and still lose (esp at objective games).

    • nickzombie Master 5,551 posts since
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      Jan 3, 2012 6:20 AM (in response to rlbl)
      Re: tired of getting 2+kds and still losing

      rlbl wrote:

       

      Funny... I have a terrible K/D and win most games...

       

      I do not use killstreaks to "pad" my K/D (use specialist strike package mostly).

       

      If you use killstreaks for your K/D... that "might" be why you have a good K/D and still lose (esp at objective games).

      Maybe he's talking about TDM.

  • Newbie 42 posts since
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    Jan 3, 2012 6:16 AM (in response to blkbumblebee17)
    Re: tired of getting 2+kds and still losing

    if ur lookin for a clan check out KLAN KILLERS were mostly from ireland we play every night from about 10 pm to 3or4 am 20 of us in clan and we dont do to bad and were lookin for new friends/members

  • Newbie 42 posts since
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    Jan 3, 2012 6:16 AM (in response to blkbumblebee17)
    Re: tired of getting 2+kds and still losing

    if ur lookin for a clan check out KLAN KILLERS were mostly from ireland we play every night from about 10 pm to 3or4 am 20 of us in clan and we dont do to bad and were lookin for new friends/members

  • Newbie 42 posts since
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    Jan 3, 2012 6:18 AM (in response to blkbumblebee17)
    Re: tired of getting 2+kds and still losing

    if ur lookin for a clan check out KLAN KILLERS were mostly from ireland we play every night from about 10 pm to 3or4 am 20 of us in clan and we dont do to bad and were lookin for new friends/members

  • AKi_nG Novice 123 posts since
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    Jan 3, 2012 6:25 AM (in response to blkbumblebee17)
    Re: tired of getting 2+kds and still losing

    I fell your pain OP, and have teh same problem. Im an EXTREME rusher...yea I dont sit still to reload, I get mad at myself for not being more patient(Ive started using the Type95 to learn patience...lol, I rush with it) , if I could slow down my KDR would go way up from 1.6, I have a second account (what I call an Objective gameplay account, 3xOG Extreme rusher account xXR_a_M_b_O3Xx, I mean blindy) where I play for fun, no worries of my KDR/W-L. This account like I said is 1.6/1.4 W-L, the Objective is 1.5/.8 W-L so Iono.

     

    Anyway, add me, I play alot...we will tear some **** up.

  • iAmLegend Newbie 39 posts since
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    Jan 3, 2012 6:27 AM (in response to blkbumblebee17)
    Re: tired of getting 2+kds and still losing

    This always happens, it's even worse when you join a game in progress :@

  • Calculating status... 2 posts since
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    Jan 3, 2012 7:10 AM (in response to blkbumblebee17)
    Re: tired of getting 2+kds and still losing

    Here is another way to look at this:  I have an 11 year old son who talked me into playing Live.  I had never played live before but have played all of the CoD games.  My introduction:  welcome to a game that you know nothing about, have the shittiest weapons, know no maps, have no Clans, have no friends, have no clue and am 45 years old.  My 11 year old is no help because he has NO tolerance for his "noob" Dad.

     

    1st, most people playing online seem to be young males who only know swear words and words concerning gender confusion.  No help there.  When I ask questions I either get no reply or insults, no help there.

     

    I start playing and figure I will follow some people around and see how they play the game.  Those players are swearing at me saying I am not "helping" the team.  So I try and "help" the team by following and covering doorways, roofs, etc. while they are "sniping".  Every now and then I actually get a kill and that "vet" swears at me and says I am "camping"  I don't even know what camping is!!  Why is it that when I hide and shoot someone it is "camping" but when the guy I shoot does the same thing it is "sniping"?

     

    So, I start running around on my own, exploring, and trying different things.  I get a few kills and get killed A LOT!!  But, I do enjoy the game........until I put the headphones on and listen to all the garbage being said.  Forget about bombs, helecopters, care packages, tags, badges, etc.

     

    There should be a beginner lobby.  It would be nice to play against people who are all on the same level and don't have weapons advantages, etc.

    • thisguygotcha Master 1,744 posts since
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      Jan 3, 2012 7:59 AM (in response to Lars82414)
      Re: tired of getting 2+kds and still losing

      Well OP add me if you want. I play to win and play aggressively the majority of the time. I have no problem camping when I have map control on 2 flags and its the other teams job to go for flags and mine to defend. But I have an 8+win loss and 2kd. (It will be after I get on for a few games. I originally only planned to stay with this game long enough to make a sniper montage and played the first 3 1/2 prestiges only sniping. I had about 20 clips using snipers and underbarrell shotti's but lost because theater mode in this game is garbage. So i killed my KD in the begining killing myself with javelins and other trickshots.)

       

      Looking for a few more regular ppl to play with now. For some reason a bunch of the ppl I used to play with In blops decided dashboarding is cool now. That is my biggest petpeave. You dont have a 2+ kd if you cancel out all your deaths from the bad games.

       

      I do play lots of solo so my win loss isnt a full party win loss.

       

      My psn name is same as on here.

  • Newbie 2 posts since
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    Jan 3, 2012 8:16 AM (in response to blkbumblebee17)
    Re: tired of getting 2+kds and still losing

    Here is another way to look at this:  I have an 11 year old son who talked me into playing Live.  I had never played live before but have played all of the CoD games.  My introduction:  welcome to a game that you know nothing about, have the shittiest weapons, know no maps, have no Clans, have no friends, have no clue and am 45 years old.  My 11 year old is no help because he has NO tolerance for his "noob" Dad.

     

    1st, most people playing online seem to be young males who only know swear words and words concerning gender confusion.  No help there.  When I ask questions I either get no reply or insults, no help there.

     

    I start playing and figure I will follow some people around and see how they play the game.  Those players are swearing at me saying I am not "helping" the team.  So I try and "help" the team by following and covering doorways, roofs, etc. while they are "sniping".  Every now and then I actually get a kill and that "vet" swears at me and says I am "camping"  I don't even know what camping is!!  Why is it that when I hide and shoot someone it is "camping" but when the guy I shoot does the same thing it is "sniping"?

     

    So, I start running around on my own, exploring, and trying different things.  I get a few kills and get killed A LOT!!  But, I do enjoy the game........until I put the headphones on and listen to all the garbage being said.  Forget about bombs, helecopters, care packages, tags, badges, etc.

     

    There should be a beginner lobby.  It would be nice to play against people who are all on the same level and don't have weapons advantages, etc.

    • Calculating status... 5 posts since
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      Jan 3, 2012 8:47 AM (in response to Lars82414)
      Re: tired of getting 2+kds and still losing

      Lars,

       

      I'm theere with you, buddy!  I'm 34 years old...and just now got a PS3!  You're right, most of these boys didn't even pay for their PS3, let alone learn any maturity for a game.  That's right...A GAME.

       

      When we get right down to it folks, this is all just a game that carries no real bragging rights.  It makes you zero money...gets you zero chicks...and the only thing ppl know about you is your online id and how friendly or unfriendly you are.

       

      That being said...we should be concentrating on how to make others better. 

       

      I'm a youth pastor, and got to play COD a few times before getting CD3.  But to be honest, I would totally be considered a noob.  I try my best not to camp, but it's hard when you start out with nothing while all the prestige players have the best guns, best perks, map knowledge and years and years of COD experience.

       

      Dang.  I'm just trying to have fun.

       

      If you're going to take it this seriosly, go get an application to Sledgehammer games and be a game tester and make your life count for something.  OTHERWISE, be nice to the noobs, man.  Teach them the game.

       

      And Lars, you know you can mute the other players, right?

  • Snipingdbag Master 4,587 posts since
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    Jan 3, 2012 9:07 AM (in response to blkbumblebee17)
    Re: tired of getting 2+kds and still losing

    Today I had a dom game with me (most caps) on my team having a 1.75 k/d at the end the second best player on my team had a 0.25 k/d, no joke either, nearly everybody went minus 20 at least. Matchbalancing is hilarious. I'm curious what it's based upon. No, the other team wasn't a full party the players did generally mix here and there too in other games.

  • momocole Newbie 39 posts since
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    Jan 4, 2012 10:35 AM (in response to blkbumblebee17)
    Re: tired of getting 2+kds and still losing

    Finally someone has this topic, Thank God, we are not alone!

     

    For countless games, me and my only partner always lose eventhrough we sum up with 60+ kills every single game...  9/10 times we end up the top 2 kills in our team. However, our team-mates are always relatively having "bad luck" game or with other "objective" in our game, like practicing new weapon :_)

     

    The fact is we always lose no matter how hard we tried... in Team Death Match, HeadQuarter, Domination, Kill Confirm...

     

    Now we switch to Drop Zone since we believe we might able to win more since the objective is much clear... well.. it still 50/50...

     

    I admit that there are different level of players. We can't expect everyone plays as good as experts. May be they are already tired their best to help you out...

     

    If you need a good team-mate, add me and I'm sure giving you another 25-30 kills per game, fighting until the last second. But the reality is we may still lose :-)

     

    We are foreigners live in Western Canada, English is not very good, thanks for reading,

     

    MoMoCoLe

     

     

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    • avengedyesterday Master 3,962 posts since
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      Jan 4, 2012 10:14 AM (in response to momocole)
      Re: tired of getting 2+kds and still losing

      It happens but if you are a consistantly good player you should be able to keep a positive w/l. In every COD i've kept a 1.5 w/l. In blackops out of the 1500 games i won i was first place on the leaderboard 1300 times. This is all playing solo of course.

       

      I mainly played domination. On every other call of duty i've been able to pretty much win domination games singlehandedly. This just isn't the case in MW3. The spawns just make it impossible to judge where the enemy is going to come from once you kill them and start capping the flag. Also in past COD's if you killed someone on their flag it would generally take them the time it takes to cap the flag before they can make it back there.

       

      For TDM and killconfirmed I find i have to pick and choose my lobbies. If the lobby splits and the teams are obviously unbalanced i'm not going to waste my time fighting a losing battle.

       

      This game caters to noobs. Luck plays much more of a factor in this game than any other call of duty i have played before. Luck being does that guy you just stab have dead mans hand, or is that guy you just killed goin to spawn directly behind you or, are you going to get the good side of lag comp, the list just goes on.

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