Actually its people like you that ruin the game, more people that complain the more other people follow the complains because they can't stand they been outplayed (if its the case), or they tend to just ***** about everything everytime the die (just watch closely to how your friends die and you will see what i mean). You didnt see anyone complaining about the game for the first 2 months until these bullshit players just plain all out suck and wants to ruin the game by glitching, and complaining.

Meechoc wrote:

 

Actually its people like you that ruin the game, more people that complain the more other people follow the complains because they can't stand they been outplayed (if its the case), or they tend to just girl about everything everytime the die (just watch closely to how your friends die and you will see what i mean). You didnt see anyone complaining about the game for the first 2 months until these bullshit players just plain all out suck and wants to ruin the game by glitching, and complaining.

brah im complaining too but im a f***ing beast. 1.09 KD with a 1.01 WL ratio.

I'm going to *** quit if I get another *** round where everyone on the other team is using Doucheweight Fagathon and Assmando. I'm so *** sick an tired of these ******** who think they're sooooo skilled by running around douching it up at 40 km/h while knifing from 50 feet away and spraying everyone to *** with their overpowered dUMPs.

you really know how to live up to that sig of yours...you couldve posted this message on any other board and it would have made just as much sense.

1887's were unnerfed

I think that shows your credibility

Shouldn't you be playing Battlefield instead?

Ok, good for you. But if you really think those things, then why are you on here preaching to a non-existant community, and why are you still playing it?

xtmx Famas wrote:

 

Well, i've got a few things to say:

FIrst, the game does have A LOT of issues. But if you enjoy competitive gaming(Like myself), this is basically the only option right now.

I lol'd.

try akimbo p90's their loads of fun coupled alonged with akimbo usps

xtmx Famas wrote:

 

@Kevin

Go ahead and laugh, but no matter how you view it, it's getting more and more popular every day. And sometimes it's fun to have a challenging game that actually requires tactics and a bit of teamwork to win rather than blowing through pubs. Whatever though, to each his own I suppose.

I play GameBattles with a team, no Deathstreaks, no Killstreaks, no Grenade Launchers etc. And I play pubs. Neither are very competitive IMHO. It's waaaaay too random to be competitive.

You can tell how much lag is in the game by people thinking the Famas doesn't kill in one burst.

Read, prowler. I said "Almost" and that is at range. I get 1-bursts MUCH more often with my m16 as opposed to the FAMAS. Maybe it's my luck, though.

When did they unnerf the 1887's. Did I miss something

If you are at point blank, then yes, it's a 1-burst. If you run into a burst gun at point blank and your using an automatic, dropshot. When your ANYWHERE near your opponent, dropshotting is ALMOST always a guaranteed win in a gun fight(assuming you can aim).

That's according to stats. Unfortunately, the stats in this game are not very accurate in my experience. I get 1-bursts maybe 90% of the time with my m16 while only 30% with my famas.

^ Referring to the FAL

I'd watch about that logic concerning the FAL, Mr. Toast doesn't seem to think that means anything.

Yeah the FAL has recoil when you spam it, but a slight pause between shots make's this weapon dead on accurate across the map. It's a good thing that the large majority don't know about it's capabilities because the FAL is very deadly. If you have just a slither of patience and trigger control the FAL is really powerful, and don't give me this crap it's a semi.

But it's safe to say that the FAMAS is easily the deadliest rifle in the game. So what if the M16 gets a recoil reduction with the holographic? All that means to me is I can now get the rifle to group as well as the FAMAS. I can take the FAMAS, use another attachment, and do just as much damage as the M16 holo and then some.

xllamamanx wrote:

 

I know that I am going to get a lot of fanboys hating me for hating on what they consider to be IW's gift to the world and what replaces religion for some of you. A lot of these problems would've been taken care of if IW had held a beta like a lot of other successful games. I mean really, you had it in the first MW, why not the second one? I'll type in terms that even a MW2tard can understand.

1) There are a HUMONGOUS amount of glitches that lead to people exploiting them and then sharing them to everyone and thus ruining the game.

I'm not trying to be a fanboy, but glitches are being patched and the 5th patch is coming out during DLC and thats in the first 5 months of the game. Although there are glitches I am pretty sure Activision's greed made sure there wasn't a beta

2) The weapons aren't balanced at all. The very very high strength and accuracy of the burst fire weapons.(FAMAS, M16, Raffica) They shouldn't be able to kill someone faster than any other gun, because most of the guns in the game use the same freaking ammo. The high recoil on all of the SMG's make them a lot harder to use than the first game and assault rifles apparently have pinpoint accuracy when rapid fired (ACR). My favorite was the first nerfing of the dual 1887s, that was the smartest thing IW has done with this game. But the idiots listened to dumb fans and decided to unnerf them.

I agree that some guns are overpowered like the M16, FAMAS, and ACR, but just because they use the same bullet doesn't mean they preform the same. Rate of fire, speed of the bullet, amount of recoil, and even how big the barrel is on the gun all have affect on how the gun in real life preforms. These things were taken into effect and as well as "balancing" and that is how guns with the same bullet do more damage.

3) All of the connectivity issues. They give it to whoever is in the lobby first, not to who actually can host well this still is going on after how many months of the game's release?

I also agree there are connection issues, but the first part of your second sentence is blatantly wrong. When the required amount of people for the start of game it finds a new host.

4) All of the moderators and trolls in these forums. There really isn't a communtiy because of them. People wonder why MW doesn't have a good community, it's because they follow everyone around and ban every little thing that they can because they have a personal squabble or because of the really dumb forum rules.

This doesn't make the game bad, and mods do what their told by IW so don't blame it on them.

I'm not going to lie, this will probably be taken down before a lot of people see this because of these trolls. I hope that some people do see it and actually take a look at the game and see that it is not as great as they think it is.
When did anyone say on this forum this game is great. About 90% of the forum hates the game.

My opinions on this OP is in bold.

jefswat wrote:

 

CoDFan5 wrote:

 

xllamamanx wrote:

 

I know that I am going to get a lot of fanboys hating me for hating on what they consider to be IW's gift to the world and what replaces religion for some of you. A lot of these problems would've been taken care of if IW had held a beta like a lot of other successful games. I mean really, you had it in the first MW, why not the second one? I'll type in terms that even a MW2tard can understand.

1) There are a HUMONGOUS amount of glitches that lead to people exploiting them and then sharing them to everyone and thus ruining the game.

I'm not trying to be a fanboy, but glitches are being patched and the 5th patch is coming out during DLC and thats in the first 5 months of the game. Although there are glitches I am pretty sure Activision's greed made sure there wasn't a beta

2) The weapons aren't balanced at all. The very very high strength and accuracy of the burst fire weapons.(FAMAS, M16, Raffica) They shouldn't be able to kill someone faster than any other gun, because most of the guns in the game use the same freaking ammo. The high recoil on all of the SMG's make them a lot harder to use than the first game and assault rifles apparently have pinpoint accuracy when rapid fired (ACR). My favorite was the first nerfing of the dual 1887s, that was the smartest thing IW has done with this game. But the idiots listened to dumb fans and decided to unnerf them.

I agree that some guns are overpowered like the M16, FAMAS, and ACR, but just because they use the same bullet doesn't mean they preform the same. Rate of fire, speed of the bullet, amount of recoil, and even how big the barrel is on the gun all have affect on how the gun in real life preforms. These things were taken into effect and as well as "balancing" and that is how guns with the same bullet do more damage.

3) All of the connectivity issues. They give it to whoever is in the lobby first, not to who actually can host well this still is going on after how many months of the game's release?

I also agree there are connection issues, but the first part of your second sentence is blatantly wrong. When the required amount of people for the start of game it finds a new host.

4) All of the moderators and trolls in these forums. There really isn't a communtiy because of them. People wonder why MW doesn't have a good community, it's because they follow everyone around and ban every little thing that they can because they have a personal squabble or because of the really dumb forum rules.

This doesn't make the game bad, and mods do what their told by IW so don't blame it on them.

I'm not going to lie, this will probably be taken down before a lot of people see this because of these trolls. I hope that some people do see it and actually take a look at the game and see that it is not as great as they think it is.
When did anyone say on this forum this game is great. About 90% of the forum hates the game.

My opinions on this OP is in bold.

My whole problem is isn't that MW2 is better than cod4 or any of that. It is that they knew of all of the problems with cod4 from the forums and they did a very poor job fixing, or left them the same/made them worse. The things they did fix are overshadowed by what they didn't. It isn't really that MW2 is bad, its just that is isn't the step up from cod4 people expected.

Even the things they got people very excited over like host migration turned out to be a flop. It still doesn't always work and its ruined by the fact that the game still can't find a good host/match people up properly.

Why am I quoted?

Prowler33 wrote:

 

I'd watch about that logic concerning the FAL, Mr. Toast doesn't seem to think that means anything.

Blind hatred and ignorance.  Typical post from you.

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Referring back to weapon stats, look at the "fire time" stat for the M16/FAMAS (.065 seconds between each bullet) and the FAL (0.095 seconds between each bullet).  The FAL has a firing cap placed on it in this game, unlike the semi-automatic weapons in CoD4.  This means that there is a time delay between each bullet in the weapon.

Now, the two weapons have very different damage charts.  55-35/40 for the FAL (Non-Holo/Holo damage) and 40-30 for the M16/FAMAS.  Looking at these stats, in a burst rifle vs FAL matchup, there are a number of possibilities that can occur.

Close Range:
Both users have Stopping Power- FAL: (55*1.4 = 77 damage)  Burst: (40*1.4 = 56 damage).  Both are two shot kills.  The burst weapons have a .065 delay between bullets, while the FAL has .095, assuming the user is matching the firing cap exactly; any more and trigger pulls are wasted, any less and the fire time increases.  Burst weapons win.

FAL Stopping Power user lands a headshot: One hit kill for them.  In the tiny range the FAL has for maximum damage compared to the burst weapons, this is difficult to pull off, and rewards the skilled player who can get a headshot in close quarters against a burst weapon.  FAL wins if the user is skilled.

FAL without Stopping Power headshot: Two shot kill.  The bursts can land a two shot kill with Stopping Power to anywhere on the body.  Burst weapons win.

Both without Stopping Power: Burst weapon fire time to land three body shots for a kill: .195.  Time for the FAL to do the same: .190, assuming the user is matching the max fire rate.  Burst weapons win except against someone with pitch perfect timing (or a well tuned mod that matches the fire cap).

Long Range:

Both with Stopping Power: Two different versions of this.  The FAL user without a holo sight will lose (35 *1.4 = 49, 3 shot kill) against a burst (30 * 1.4 = 42 damage, 3 shot kill) since the burst has a faster fire rate.  Headshots change them to two shot kills.  However, the FAL with the Holographic Sight becomes a two shot kill at a distance, with headshots not being a factor.  Burst wins unless the FAL user equips a specific attachment.

Burst with Stopping Power: Burst obviously wins.  .195 for all three bullets vs. .285 for the FAL

FAL only has Stopping Power: FAL user firing perfectly in tune with the firing cap kills in .190 seconds with Holo sight.  Burst kills in .395 without Stopping Power or a damage enhancing attachment at it's minimum damage range (farther than the FAL's for both the M16 and FAMAS).  This also assumes that the burst user doesn't land a single headshot with the three bullets.  FAL wins assuming the burst weapon user is incompetent and the two are firing from a very long range.

Neither have Stopping Power: 4 shot kill with burst. .195 + .2 seconds (time between each burst) = .395 seconds.  3 shot kill with FAL in .290 seconds, assuming user is at the firing cap.  Full one tenth second delay for the burst.  FAL user wins.

So the FAL beats the burst consistently in just one case (long range, neither with Stopping Power), and you still want to claim that it's overpowered?  Take your ignorance, immature insults, and mindless flaming and spamming of this forum somewhere else.

The game is horrendous, it's horrible, don't buy it.

I love the game - hate the knifers - I don't know why people are always on about the M16 and Famas - I play ALOT of MW2 and don't really see these weapons being used that often.  Mostly SCAR - ACR - M4 - UMP45 - I personally hate the 3 shot burst - either lag or my bad aim but I need more bullets than that.

lol

Topic locked, due to number 4, attacking members of staff, also flaming of other users.